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Old 01-13-2004, 08:39 AM   #1
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Soldiers following orders are not cowards
Its war, get over it.
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Soldiers following orders are not cowards
Its war, get over it.
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Soldiers following orders are not cowards
Its war, get over it.
Yes they are.

Somone ordering you to kill makes it right???

Unjistified war makes it worse.

I'll never get over a war whos outcome is richer cooperations and nothing more.


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it was a video posted a hundred times already. People die in war. Why are new age socialists so blind to that, and so afraid of bloodshed. The people who are your enemies do not have those same fears. They would cut your head off and shit down your neck without an ounce of remorse..

Keep building your little socialist utopia and turning a blind eye to everything else in the world.
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it was a video posted a hundred times already. People die in war. Why are new age socialists so blind to that, and so afraid of bloodshed. The people who are your enemies do not have those same fears. They would cut your head off and shit down your neck without an ounce of remorse..

Keep building your little socialist utopia and turning a blind eye to everything else in the world.
For some reason both sides in a war always believe the other side to be immoral beasts.
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no, but that one haunts me still.. was pretty fucking gruesome
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it was a shooter for the military taking out three guys with the machine gun or whatever type he was using. Everything was shot in nightvision or infrared (I am not sure what the military uses). It wasnt gruesome, but very real.
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Coward? You've never been in war if you're making that statement. These are brave men in harms way fighting to protect our way of life and country from a bunch of scumball Islamic extremists.

These fucking Afghans, Al Quaedas, and Saddam loyalists want to destroy us and our allies anyway they can.

If we don't kill them they'll kill us.

I could watch that video all day long and feel zero compassion for those pricks on the ground getting blown apart.

Fuck them to hell and Allah cause that's where they and their country are going.
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Coward? You've never been in war if you're making that statement. These are brave men in harms way fighting to protect our way of life and country from a bunch of scumball Islamic extremists.

These fucking Afghans, Al Quaedas, and Saddam loyalists want to destroy us and our allies anyway they can.

If we don't kill them they'll kill us.

I could watch that video all day long and feel zero compassion for those pricks on the ground getting blown apart.

Fuck them to hell and Allah cause that's where they and their country are going.

dude, thats a little harsh!
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dude, thats a little harsh!
Where are all these over-sensitive little girls coming from today!! Did some catholic elementary class find their way to GFY today or something!!
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dude, thats a little harsh!
its called having a narrow mind.


Everyone I know who was in the gulf war as well as my grandfather, who was a WWII vet, are adamant about how wrong killing is and that war is bad and should only be used as a last resort.
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Where are all these over-sensitive little girls coming from today!! Did some catholic elementary class find their way to GFY today or something!!
Every statment you've made so far makes you look ignorant.
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thats all fine and good, too bad the enemy dosent share the same view.
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thats all fine and good, too bad the enemy dosent share the same view.
What was the last time you spoke with "the enemy" in a face to face conversation?
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dude, thats a little harsh!
So was 9/11

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Every statment you've made so far makes you look ignorant.
Every statement you made so far makes YOU look like an ignorant fool that needs to wake the fuck up. You're whining because people are dying in a war. Prior to this video, did you honestly think that during war people hold hands and drink tea or something? This video obviously surprises the heck out of you.
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So was 9/11

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Every statement you made so far makes YOU look like an ignorant fool that needs to wake the fuck up. You're whining because people are dying in a war. Prior to this video, did you honestly think that during war people hold hands and drink tea or something? This video obviously surprises the heck out of you.
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these people do not have your hippie western ideas. Such ideas arent part of extremist culture.

Most arabs are decent hard working people, but the extremists just dont value life.

And they arent afraid of bloodshed.




Reminds me of a part from apocolypse now when Kurtz does his monlogoue, and he talks about how they went to a village to innoculate the kids for polio, and then the north vietnames came and cut off all the kids arms.

He cried and wept, but then realized that the people who did that werent monsters, they loved their family like anyone else, but they had the toughness to do that.


These extremest arabs have that toughness. New age soclialists have hippy fantasyland.
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Every statment you've made so far makes you look ignorant.
OK, Jesus, why don't you come down from Heaven then and bring peace and calm to planet earth. It certainly needs it.

I'm not an advocate of wars and killing people. But if you don't fight in this world to protect your way of life and take out the evil regimes of the world, then they'll eventually be on on your doorstep conquering you. Just look at history.
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these people do not have your hippie western ideas. Such ideas arent part of extremist culture.

Most arabs are decent hard working people, but the extremists just dont value life.

And they arent afraid of bloodshed.




Reminds me of a part from apocolypse now when Kurtz does his monlogoue, and he talks about how they went to a village to innoculate the kids for polio, and then they came and cut off all the kids arms.

He cried and wept, but then realized that the people who did that werent monsters, they loved their family like anyone else, but they had the toughness to do that.


These extremest arabs have that toughness. New age soclialists have hippy fantasyland.
Not supporting a useless war, based on lies, for the profit of an elite few makes me a socialist???? Keep walking.
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OK, Jesus, why don't you come down from Heaven then and bring peace and calm to planet earth. It certainly needs it.

I'm not an advocate of wars and killing people. But if you don't fight in this world to protect your way of life and take out the evil regimes of the world, then they'll eventually be on on your doorstep conquering you. Just look at history.
IM all for killing your enemy, just not premptivly. Are you saying Iraq has links to al-quida or that saddam would be on our doorstep... EVER??

If you honestly believe that you watch too much fox news.
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IM all for killing your enemy, just not premptivly. Are you saying Iraq has links to al-quida or that saddam would be on our doorstep... EVER??

If you honestly believe that you watch too much fox news.

Quit changing the subject idiot. This post was about a war video that you're crying about. The debate can go on and on about the intentions of the war. And quit using the foxnews excuse because if you paid attention, the majority of fox-cnn-msnbc "headline news" linkers are the anti-war fanatics here at GFY. (vegas2002 & directfiesta do it DAILY)
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Quit changing the subject idiot. This post was about a war video that you're crying about. The debate can go on and on about the intentions of the war. And quit using the foxnews excuse because if you paid attention, the majority of fox-cnn-msnbc "headline news" linkers are the anti-war fanatics here at GFY. (vegas2002 & directfiesta do it DAILY)
The political/economic reasons for the war have nothing to do with the poeple dying in it?

Thats a ludacris concept. I'm not changing the subject at all.

I'm talking about the television channels not the websites. The public is far more effected by what is piped into thier living room that what thye read on the web.
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it was a shooter for the military taking out three guys with the machine gun or whatever type he was using. Everything was shot in nightvision or infrared (I am not sure what the military uses). It wasnt gruesome, but very real.
It's a chain gun on an Apache and the video is shot through thermal sites.

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another example of the type of thing that never gets posted on gfy http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/12/po...rint&position=
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and im sure the guys on the ground running to the missle launcher would not have blown the apache and its whole crew out of the sky
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The political/economic reasons for the war have nothing to do with the poeple dying in it?

Thats a ludacris concept. I'm not changing the subject at all.
So they're cowards for doing their job? They're already AT WAR. Would you rather have seen a rocket heading straight towards the camera instead of the other way around as shown on the video.
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another example of the type of thing that never gets posted on gfy http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/12/po...rint&position=
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I thought you were arguing agasint my opinion?

So... he slowly shifted his position to support the war and the lies about the al-quida ties. It seems to support what I've been saying, the war is based on bullshit.
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Ok fine the soldiers aren't cowards the poloticians are, but they are still guilty of blindly following orders. I guess the nazis who were killing the jews were not cowards by locking them in a room and gassing them. They were just following orders.
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Ok fine the soldiers aren't cowards the poloticians are, but they are still guilty of blindly following orders. I guess the nazis who were killing the jews were not cowards by locking them in a room and gassing them. They were just following orders.
I haven't posted / read here for a while exactly because of people like you. You and your liberal mindset disgust me.

"I'll never get over a war whos outcome is richer cooperations and nothing more."

That statement alone proves your ignorance. The US is overseas for oil, right? We're looking to "liberate" (that's bullshit right?) the country to take their oil, and nothing more, right?

If you could stop using your conspiracy typing fingers any time now and save all of us a few minutes of our day, I'd be greatly appreciative.
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I haven't posted / read here for a while exactly because of people like you. You and your liberal mindset disgust me.

"I'll never get over a war whos outcome is richer cooperations and nothing more."

That statement alone proves your ignorance. The US is overseas for oil, right? We're looking to "liberate" (that's bullshit right?) the country to take their oil, and nothing more, right?

If you could stop using your conspiracy typing fingers any time now and save all of us a few minutes of our day, I'd be greatly appreciative.
I said nothing about oil.
I'm sure bush isnt trying to give all those mexicans citizanship for thier votes right?

Its not a conspiracy theory its FACTS. There are no nukes in iraq. THere are no biological weapons. PERIOD.

I suppose you support patriot act one and two?
I guess believing in the constituation makes me a liberal. PLEASE!

Paranoid delusions are far more dangerous than being a liberal.
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But if you don't fight in this world to protect your way of life and take out the evil regimes of the world, then they'll eventually be on on your doorstep conquering you. Just look at history.
Fits just like a glove ( not O.J. 's one ) the USA :

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Old 01-13-2004, 11:25 AM   #38
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If you could stop using your conspiracy typing fingers any time now and save all of us a few minutes of our day, I'd be greatly appreciative.
Thank you! Jesus, please turn off your computer and stop acting retarded.
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Actually I just read your last post again, unfortunately, and I'm not done. You're attempting to compare genocide in the millions to US forces going into a country to rid them of their dictator (whoops, done) and Baathist regime. If you could please clerify how these relate in ANY WAY at all, I'd appreciate it. How about we compare the total casualties for the US of 2849 (http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/) versus the 2752 (CNN.com) KILLED in a single morning.

I vote we all turn liberal and trust the rest of the world. Surely they're not bad people...they're just a little upset with us. If we stop messing with them, they won't attack us, right? Whoops...3 planes into American buildings and one into the ground. Guess that didn't work so well. I say we give it another shot though, what do you think?
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Its not a conspiracy theory its FACTS. There are no nukes in iraq. THere are no biological weapons. PERIOD.
haha, you gotta be kidding me. we have an overweight asshole adult webmaster who sits around beating his dick all day somehow with the FACTS and evidence that there are indeed 100% no nukes in iraq. who gave you this information? what conspiracist website have you been reading?

get your head out of your ass man, don't think you "KNOW" anything. cause you don't. you've given yourself up too easy, anyone who thinks they know facts about shit like this is just proving their own ignorance.
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Quit changing the subject idiot. This post was about a war video that you're crying about. The debate can go on and on about the intentions of the war. And quit using the foxnews excuse because if you paid attention, the majority of fox-cnn-msnbc "headline news" linkers are the anti-war fanatics here at GFY. (vegas2002 & directfiesta do it DAILY)
Wrong! I very rarely link to news from TV ... just showbiz.

I link to articles from major sources ( Washington Post, LA times, BBC, Guardian)...

Just a little tought : all we hear now on TV in and about the US is " TERRA " ( terror for other than Bush ). Do you really like your new country and the way it is heading? If so, then you are right to cheer for this video.
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Actually I just read your last post again, unfortunately, and I'm not done. You're attempting to compare genocide in the millions to US forces going into a country to rid them of their dictator (whoops, done) and Baathist regime. If you could please clerify how these relate in ANY WAY at all, I'd appreciate it. How about we compare the total casualties for the US of 2849 (http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/) versus the 2752 (CNN.com) KILLED in a single morning.

I vote we all turn liberal and trust the rest of the world. Surely they're not bad people...they're just a little upset with us. If we stop messing with them, they won't attack us, right? Whoops...3 planes into American buildings and one into the ground. Guess that didn't work so well. I say we give it another shot though, what do you think?
Were talking about whos at fault here... A human life is a human life, poeple were arguing that the soilders werent at fault. I'm not comparing numbers Im just saying the soldiers ARE at fault. I don't care who tells you to pull the trigger.

Last I checked supporting the constituation on a fundamental level is a conservative view. I would say making new laws that destroy constitional rights is liberal.
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These are brave men in harms way fighting to protect our way of life and country from a bunch of scumball Islamic extremists.
Dude, your way of life is being threatened in your own country, by your own president.
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haha, you gotta be kidding me. we have an overweight asshole adult webmaster who sits around beating his dick all day somehow with the FACTS and evidence that there are indeed 100% no nukes in iraq. who gave you this information? what conspiracist website have you been reading?

get your head out of your ass man, don't think you "KNOW" anything. cause you don't. you've given yourself up too easy, anyone who thinks they know facts about shit like this is just proving their own ignorance.
I'm 21, 6'2" and 153 lbs.

No weapons have yet been found in iraq and much of the information that got the public to agree with the war has been proven false.


Whos making up facts?
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I call this post, Ode to Jesus.

Unjistified
al-quida
premptivly
thye
poeple
poloticians
constituation
thier

As Jesus once said, "Every statment you've made so far makes you look ignorant."

I say thye are unjistified in premptivly attacking al-quida and the Iraqi poeple. Thier poloticians care a ton about our constitiuation. Thye are really good poeple!

From now on I plan on ignoring facts and history. I'm going to drop everything I've studied to date and follow an educated person like you.

Preach on Jesus.
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Were talking about whos at fault here... A human life is a human life, poeple were arguing that the soilders werent at fault. I'm not comparing numbers Im just saying the soldiers ARE at fault. I don't care who tells you to pull the trigger.

Last I checked supporting the constituation on a fundamental level is a conservative view. I would say making new laws that destroy constitional rights is liberal.
Pssst, those soldiers believe in what they are doing. Wow isn't America great, voluntary citizens fighting for something they believe in while you sit at home complaining?

These are not Nazi SS members that are forced into work and ordered around via threats of death. In the US you are able to choose to fight for what you believe in. Guess what, the brave men in the video believe.

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Jesus christ, if you were drafted into combat, you'd be fucking killing people because of the mere pressure... you would NOT be sitting there with your gun at your side slappin your meat (although you might) disobeying orders from superiors who would probably whoop your ass easy.
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kill for money.
kill for power.
justify your actions with lies.
ignore the documents this country was founded on.
invade and bomb 2 countries.

all is well.

I will be happy when the dollar is worth less than the denar and the govenment has complete control of my actions.

everyone hates us and always will.

I have no valid points so I use personal attacks, insults, and spelling errors as fodder.
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I call this post, Ode to Ace-Ace.


kill for money.
kill for power.
justify your actions with lies.
ignore the documents this country was founded on.
invade and bomb 2 countries.

all is well.

I will be happy when the dollar is worth less than the denar and the govenment has complete control of my actions.

everyone hates us and always will.

I have no valid points so I use personal attacks, insults, and spelling errors as fodder.
I have plenty of valid points that I honestly don't have time to type out. I have better things to do than waste my time and effort on a conspiracy theorist such as yourself (already wasted more time than what I intended).

Iraqi culture is weird. I keep seeing videos (OMG BRAINEDWASHED BY MEDIA, SHIT SHIT GET ME AWAY) of thousands of Iraqi citizens cheering and thanking US soldiers for their brave help. I guess those people are pissed off and "hate us and always will". I really need to learn to read people better I think...because I'm confused here.

Reading your posts is a personal attack on me. You're insulting my intelligence (or lack there of cause everything I know is fed in by Fox News eh?).
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