Fucking stupid ARS .. wins Idiot Award - GoFuckYourself.com

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2004, 08:25 PM

So I go in there tonight to grab some stuff to build exits.

Hmm, it looks like the need an I-9 form. OK, but what did they do with the info I gave them back when I signed up, lose it? It's all standard stuff, name, address, Tax ID.

Your account has been placed on hold because we have not received a W9 form. This means that you will not receive payments until we have received a completed and signed W9 form.

That's ok too, I can do the form and fax it to them, but they invalidated the entire fucking account until they get the form and I can't even get ad materials? How fucking stupid can a company be?

ARS wins the stupid fucking idiot award

Juicy D. Links · 01-11-2004, 08:26 PM

I sale W9 forms

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2004, 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
I sale W9 forms

Part trade dog or short ICQ UIN ?

p1mpdogg · 01-11-2004, 08:30 PM

send to us, we dont ask for that I-9 crap, just a ss# and standard info you use when you singup to any program

plus we convert good

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2004, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by p1mpdogg
send to us, we dont ask for that I-9 crap, just a ss# and standard info you use when you singup to any program

plus we convert good

Dude.. no. In fact, I killed all of your traffic and re bannered all the permanent galleries I had made for you.

http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/pr...edSponsors.pdf

Business is business, but if you lie with dogs you wake with fleas.

Otherwise known as:

"Tell me who you run with and I'll tell you what you do."

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2004, 08:39 PM

Dam, if the last 2 sponsors were Epic and Brad Shaw, I guess I'd just quit.

Marc De · 01-11-2004, 08:55 PM

Adult Site Traffic - its a W9 and since you recieve money from us the IRS has made SPECIFIC requirements that we have W9's for everyone of our webmasters.

Its a simple form, you print it and fax it and you are all set

p1mpdogg · 01-11-2004, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic

Dude.. no. In fact, I killed all of your traffic and re bannered all the permanent galleries I had made for you.

http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/pr...edSponsors.pdf

Business is business, but if you lie with dogs you wake with fleas.

Otherwise known as:

"Tell me who you run with and I'll tell you what you do."

haha sweet!

Marc De · 01-11-2004, 08:56 PM

One more thing, your account still functions fine, but we've been asking for this form for a few weeks now. The IRS wants THAT specific form returned to us, sorry government rules.

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2004, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by Marc De
One more thing, your account still functions fine, but we've been asking for this form for a few weeks now. The IRS wants THAT specific form returned to us, sorry government rules.

Dude, it does NOT function fine.

I printed the dam thing and faxed it within 5 minutes.

THAT's no problem. You need it, I send it.

My account is INVALID. I cannot get banners. I could really care if you hold my money until you get my form.

I want BANNERS. I'm working on 18 pay sites and hundreds of galleries right now. I don't have a lot of time to waste, really. When I move on to another project, I expect to complete it and move on.

I want to exit you from my pay sites. I need materials, lol. I just want to complete that and move on.

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2004, 09:03 PM

And, yes, I know the difference between a W-9 and the I.N.S. I-9 form, it was a typo

Luc · 01-11-2004, 09:33 PM

dude. chill the fuck out.

government regulations require REAL companies like ARS to
process W9 forms. the fucking scammer programs paying
out $200/week to their top WMs don't give a shit about em.

they requested these fucking forms on Dec 4th of 2003.

you're spazzing like a littte bitch, foaming and spitting all over.

no shit they didnt unblock your account, its sunday night
and they're not sitting there waiting for some fucking idiot
to fax over the form.

BradShaw · 01-11-2004, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
Dam, if the last 2 sponsors were Epic and Brad Shaw, I guess I'd just quit.

Thanks!

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2004, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by Luc
dude. chill the fuck out.

government regulations require REAL companies like ARS to
process W9 forms. the fucking scammer programs paying
out $200/week to their top WMs don't give a shit about em.

Shut up puppy and go lay down.

Their rep was just in this thread all on about how the account functions properly, which it does not.

I don't check my stats every day, they didn't e-mail me to ask for a form, all I wanted was some ad materials.

I didn't say they don't need the form, I said the account is locked and I can't get materials.

p1mpdogg · 01-11-2004, 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

Thanks!

I guess that leaves us out in the cold doesnt it?

you are #1 ofcaorse, I will take an honorbale 2nd even though there are 2 programs left on the planet lol

I love you brad

sextoyking · 01-11-2004, 09:47 PM

Being around for so many years, I would guess that Marc De is more then there rep

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2004, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Being around for so many years, I would guess that Marc De is more then there rep

Ya. The point was only that he said the account functions .

Luc · 01-11-2004, 09:51 PM

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Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic

Shut up puppy and go lay down.

Their rep was just in this thread all on about how the account functions properly, which it does not.

I don't check my stats every day, they didn't e-mail me to ask for a form, all I wanted was some ad materials.

I didn't say they don't need the form, I said the account is locked and I can't get materials.

if you would have submitted your fucking forms a months ago
when everyone else did it, you wouldn't be here foaming at
the mouth like a little bitch.

marc said that your shit is tracking right...which means your
account is active and not terminated.

and who the fuck you calling a puppy kiddo? go back to making
TGPs and getting rich off your shitty ass TGP traffic. hahaha

funkmaster · 01-11-2004, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic

ARS wins the stupid fucking idiot award

... I had this nice big italian salami the other day ... so fucking nice !

makefuckingmoney · 01-11-2004, 09:54 PM

There are quite a few programs that deserve this award..

Heck one of them posted in the thread!

ARS has always done well for me, so has Brad Shaw..especially in the sack..

sextoyking · 01-11-2004, 09:55 PM

Chris is BI

lock · 01-11-2004, 09:55 PM

I tell you what i am sick of faxing shit 100x over when if they actually changed the link or what ever on these fax machines or whatever reason it seems to happen to me every fucking site.

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2004, 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by Luc
if you would have submitted your fucking forms a months ago

What do I care about "months ago". I probably haven't been there in a year.

blackmonsters · 01-11-2004, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by Marc De
Adult Site Traffic - its a W9 and since you recieve money from us the IRS has made SPECIFIC requirements that we have W9's for everyone of our webmasters.

Its a simple form, you print it and fax it and you are all set

Yo Macdaady De;
I don't think anyone really has a problem with W9; but in my case my printer was down, I had the wrong version of Internet Explorer so acrobat reader would not install and I didn't know anyone who had all the needed tools to download the form.

So, I had to get a form mailed to me...just got it yesterday.
But not even being able to go to my account and download a new banner or get a linking code was like over kill. I mean if a webmaster really didn't want to do a W9 then they ain't gonna download more banners so it seemed unreasonable to webmasters that knew they were going to get the form in but need to do work right now.

Blocking your own promo materials was kind of self-defeating.

Anyway, the internal situation that led to the W9 in the first place is the work of bad accounting advice.
See I lease you ad space on the websites that I own on a pay per performance basis. I don't actually provide any service for you that is differrent then you buying an ad in a newspaper.
If you ran ads in the LA Times and asked them to do a W9 they would tell you to GFY.

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2004, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
There are quite a few programs that deserve this award..

Heck one of them posted in the thread!

ARS has always done well for me, so has Brad Shaw..especially in the sack..

SIC used to do well, a long while back. I just don't like Brad

Actually, I think ARS is a strong company, offer a lot and is one of the few companies left who write their own checks that I still trust... I *think*.

That's why I want to build exits to them.

pussyluver · 01-11-2004, 10:02 PM

ARS only asked for it and asked for it and emailed all of us and put posts in the webmaster area. What did ya expect. They got your attention. Got mine the same way! I just yelled at someone else I expected to do it for me and on time!!

P1mpdogg, I wouldn't be so quick to push that, "we don't require W9". You could get a call or visit like ARS obviously did. Or it could be there accounting/legal staff are playing it overly safe?? I'm not sure its really required for all your affiliates (I'm not an attorney). Hey do ya require the form from the phone company, your laywer, dentist, Walmart, or your escort????

One more Q, did that poster with 18 hits a day have any conversions?

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2004, 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters
But not even being able to go to my account and download a new banner or get a linking code was like over kill. I mean if a webmaster really didn't want to do a W9 then they ain't gonna download more banners so it seemed unreasonable to webmasters that knew they were going to get the form in but need to do work right now.

Blocking your own promo materials was kind of self-defeating.

Ya, bummer

That's what I mean. I could give two flips if they need the form, but when I'm on a mission (in this case to build exits) I sorta have a one track mind.

Call it OCD, whatever.

I just want materials, whenever the form gets there and I get a check, that's fine.

Sly_RJ · 01-11-2004, 10:04 PM

Every mainstream affiliate program I've ever worked with always required a W9. In fact, I just sent a couple in a few weeks back. This has been going on for years. I never really did understand why adult companies didn't require it.

BradShaw · 01-11-2004, 10:05 PM

Dam someone does not like me:-(

Adult Site Traffic · 01-11-2004, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
Dam someone does not like me:-(

That's OK Brad, lot of people don't like me either

BradShaw · 01-11-2004, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
There are quite a few programs that deserve this award..

Heck one of them posted in the thread!

ARS has always done well for me, so has Brad Shaw..especially in the sack..

ARS has always been one of our top sponsors. And they are good in the sack as well. Toolz that is.

makefuckingmoney · 01-11-2004, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

ARS has always been one of our top sponsors. And they are good in the sack as well. Toolz that is.

Dont let him use your toilet..my room was unusable after the mexican food..

jaYMan · 01-11-2004, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Being around for so many years, I would guess that Marc De is more then there rep

LOL

blackmonsters · 01-11-2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by pussyluver
ARS only asked for it and asked for it and emailed all of us and put posts in the webmaster area. What did ya expect. They got your attention. Got mine the same way! I just yelled at someone else I expected to do it for me and on time!!

P1mpdogg, I wouldn't be so quick to push that, "we don't require W9". You could get a call or visit like ARS obviously did. Or it could be there accounting/legal staff are playing it overly safe?? I'm not sure its really required for all your affiliates (I'm not an attorney). Hey do ya require the form from the phone company, your laywer, dentist, Walmart, or your escort????

The answer is ...You Don't!!!

Ya know a couple of years ago the IRS realesed a statement that basically said that advice received from and IRS representative may have to be verified. In other words "Some of our employees don't know what the fuck they are talking about". In more other words "Just because we contacted you and told you to do something doesn't mean that we were right".

You don't get W9 forms people that do not provided a service that they can take with them when they leave!!!!
When I leave ARS they do not own any rights to any of my work, which means the work was not done for them, which means I don't fucking work for them. I'm the fucking newspaper running their ads!!! If I don't like their ads, then I will not run them, on the other hand if I was contracted as a service to run their ads then they could sue me for pulling their banners.

DAMN!!!

I'm so glad I went to college.

SomeCreep · 01-11-2004, 10:45 PM

I cant believe they put accounts on hold from webmasters they did not receive a W9 form from. ARS requires a W9 form, yet all the other major sponsors do not? Lame, I pulled all my ARS links and will be sending that traffic to better sponsors. ARS's sites are nothing special anyway. They are all cookie cutter popup hells.

pussyluver · 01-12-2004, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters

The answer is ...You Don't!!!

Ya know a couple of years ago the IRS realesed a statement that basically said that advice received from and IRS representative may have to be verified. In other words "Some of our employees don't know what the fuck they are talking about". In more other words "Just because we contacted you and told you to do something doesn't mean that we were right".

You don't get W9 forms people that do not provided a service that they can take with them when they leave!!!!
When I leave ARS they do not own any rights to any of my work, which means the work was not done for them, which means I don't fucking work for them. I'm the fucking newspaper running their ads!!! If I don't like their ads, then I will not run them, on the other hand if I was contracted as a service to run their ads then they could sue me for pulling their banners.

DAMN!!!

I'm so glad I went to college.

Don't know the details at ARS. Maybe a paranoid accounting team? If the government is leaning on 'em, I can see a quick response to give them what they want. Don't want to piss off the IRS. Didn't need to go to college for that one - LOL

I suspect this means a 1099 from them. Doubt that they're trying to call us employees, we meet none of the guidlines for that. The govenment is just gonna know how much ARS sent you last year. That assumes it was over $600 (think that's the required reporting line for 1099s). (I'm not an attorney, accountant or tax adviser, but I went to college too. BSEE)

01-11-2004, 08:30 PM	#4
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01-11-2004, 08:39 PM	#6
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01-11-2004, 09:03 PM	#11
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01-11-2004, 09:33 PM	#12
Luc Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 1,130	dude. chill the fuck out. government regulations require REAL companies like ARS to process W9 forms. the fucking scammer programs paying out $200/week to their top WMs don't give a shit about em. they requested these fucking forms on Dec 4th of 2003. you're spazzing like a littte bitch, foaming and spitting all over. no shit they didnt unblock your account, its sunday night and they're not sitting there waiting for some fucking idiot to fax over the form. __________________ » Looking for Type-in domais? Page Rank domains? Alexa domains? Popular domains? » Domain Research Tool can scan hundreds of thousands of domains to find whatever you're looking for. » Auto-appraise domains and send automated domain offers in bulk with just one click. » Full support for Proxy Servers and International Overture. Try it Free. Last edited by Luc; 01-11-2004 at 09:36 PM..

01-11-2004, 09:47 PM	#16
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01-11-2004, 08:25 PM	#1
Adult Site Traffic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South-East of the Border of Disorder Posts: 5,093	Fucking stupid ARS .. wins Idiot Award So I go in there tonight to grab some stuff to build exits. Hmm, it looks like the need an I-9 form. OK, but what did they do with the info I gave them back when I signed up, lose it? It's all standard stuff, name, address, Tax ID. Your account has been placed on hold because we have not received a W9 form. This means that you will not receive payments until we have received a completed and signed W9 form. That's ok too, I can do the form and fax it to them, but they invalidated the entire fucking account until they get the form and I can't even get ad materials? How fucking stupid can a company be? ARS wins the stupid fucking idiot award __________________ ALL Domains and Websites are GOING AWAY NOW! Ask me! Many great domains, mainstream and adult, some complete sites with databases, some names with traffic and PR, some investment quality names. Come take a look! { Traffic Orders: Please go here } .:: SHARPEN the Elite - BURN the leftovers! Ooh-Rah!! ::.

01-11-2004, 08:26 PM	#2
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	I sale W9 forms

01-11-2004, 08:55 PM	#7
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	Adult Site Traffic - its a W9 and since you recieve money from us the IRS has made SPECIFIC requirements that we have W9's for everyone of our webmasters. Its a simple form, you print it and fax it and you are all set

01-11-2004, 08:56 PM	#9
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	One more thing, your account still functions fine, but we've been asking for this form for a few weeks now. The IRS wants THAT specific form returned to us, sorry government rules.

01-11-2004, 09:54 PM	#20
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	There are quite a few programs that deserve this award.. Heck one of them posted in the thread! ARS has always done well for me, so has Brad Shaw..especially in the sack..

01-11-2004, 09:55 PM	#21
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Chris is BI __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

01-11-2004, 09:55 PM	#22
lock Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 5,065	I tell you what i am sick of faxing shit 100x over when if they actually changed the link or what ever on these fax machines or whatever reason it seems to happen to me every fucking site. __________________ Traffic.Tools - 40+ Free Tools Free.Marketing - 150+ Free Tools Submission.Tools - 20+ Free Tools

01-11-2004, 10:02 PM	#26
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	ARS only asked for it and asked for it and emailed all of us and put posts in the webmaster area. What did ya expect. They got your attention. Got mine the same way! I just yelled at someone else I expected to do it for me and on time!! P1mpdogg, I wouldn't be so quick to push that, "we don't require W9". You could get a call or visit like ARS obviously did. Or it could be there accounting/legal staff are playing it overly safe?? I'm not sure its really required for all your affiliates (I'm not an attorney). Hey do ya require the form from the phone company, your laywer, dentist, Walmart, or your escort???? One more Q, did that poster with 18 hits a day have any conversions?

01-11-2004, 10:04 PM	#28
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Every mainstream affiliate program I've ever worked with always required a W9. In fact, I just sent a couple in a few weeks back. This has been going on for years. I never really did understand why adult companies didn't require it. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

01-11-2004, 10:05 PM	#29
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01-11-2004, 10:45 PM	#35
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	I cant believe they put accounts on hold from webmasters they did not receive a W9 form from. ARS requires a W9 form, yet all the other major sponsors do not? Lame, I pulled all my ARS links and will be sending that traffic to better sponsors. ARS's sites are nothing special anyway. They are all cookie cutter popup hells. __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.