bottom line penis pills are a scam.

yes, I am an entertainer, watch me entertaining existing extrempay affiliates by offering a woooooping $10 more for every sale they make with us ... it will happen and they already start contacting me. kiss your mailers bye bye.

... so why is bradextrempays our best client then ??

thats good stuff mate, i see ur point, even with top quality produce like we get made its only $3 per a bot more expensive for example so u are correct... my point was not all pill sellers do this, reason we do is cuz we are here for the long term, we want customers to return and affiliates to get them re-sales.

I don't have to ICQ u now but will contact u in next 48 hours or so.

Dazza!

Fucking threadjackers. Amazing you guys. Totally classless.

First of all, we DO track phone orders. Affiliate ID is the "transfer number" when they call in they dial an extension, which for example for me would be "7032" We input that # and the affiliate is credited. Same with FAX.

Second, we don't bullshit average sale or conversion ratios. We don't need to lie to get affiliate traffic. I can say with confidence what we sell and I can show any affiliate that proof. We don't hide anything.

Sly: Sorry about the booth. I can answer any questions you have. We had a couple guys there who don't know the details on the program. Were kind of like the boobie chicks... paid to be there to do a task. ;)

The xbox business and bonuses. Everyone knows it is good PR on the boards. But affiliates that send decent sales don't need them.

As for the payout % - again if you can push volume I will keep increasing you.

As for jumping companies, it was my decision to leave wishing. I got a better job offer at another company. I was working remote, but now I work in their office.
Besides who could give up the opportunity to work with JMan? :)

Why work with us? Because I don't care how much you need or what you need. I won't stop until you're happy with your bottom line $.
Whatever it takes to keep you happy. A personal level of affiliate support. I mean look how much I am online. I am ALWAYS here to answer questions.

hey tipsy - yes we don't have it in the link codes yet. We are setting it up manually for the moment. Ill get ahold of you tomorrow with the link code.
As for Jo- thanks, I am fixing this.

firslty brad u lowered the level when it comes to "class" , mensniche, wishing.com , pillsmoney and many more have co-existed on this board helping affiliates make money...

So dont accuse us of threadjacking when for example u have done it tons and tons of times eg:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...t=thread jack

Oh and NOT having class, how can you talk?? Ditching the company that taught you your trade and gave you the chance at the first opportunity that you could?? The guys at wishing.com and webinc?? Very classy and loyal.

Next...

Lets NOT tell fibs yeah built into your graphics of all sites is the phone numbers DIRECT to your office NO affiliate ID in site... same with the fax number:

Lets take a look hey:

Follow this affiliate LINK: http://www.securenetsafe.com/index.p...05&pr=3&ba=406

And lets look at the top of your penis enlargement site...

http://www.200sexpositions.com/opt.jpg

I see ur quickly changing sites here taking fax numbers etc off as well....


OK now talk to me about PAYPAL SALES , 20% or orders go through PAYPAL are they being tracked for affiliates???

What about exit/upsales/cross sales???

Before getting on ur high horse about what u can do for affiliates learn some class urself.

Oh and can u tell me whos better wishing or xtremepay or u moving to another company next week?

Wishing taught me nothing, to be honest. Yes todd is a nice guy blah blah. However i came in with experience, and came out knowing their product names. Nothing more. So let's not get stuck here.

Ive been working .coms for 3.5 years now. I learned everything I know in mainstream - and from small personal projects. As well as friends in adult.

As far as the phone #s go, as we talked about on ICQ we are fixing the graphics. Right now our customer support girls know how to get the affiliate ID from the address bar from the customer on the line.

As with every program there are glitches. But we are working out the bugs that come up to us. If we are notified of anything we make sure we fix it. Especially if it is a big concern.

As for the personal stabs - wishing picked me up damn cheap. I was a board whore nothing more. I didn't even have access to an admin panel of any kind. It was shabby. They knew I was cheap as hell and would not be there forever. I was making enough $ to sleep - I had to go to my parents every weekend to eat.
When given another opportunity I took it. JMan knew that I know my stuff and they gave me an offer I could NOT refuse. back into an office and decent pay. Not to mention sending their affiliate manager to vegas, one of the biggest shows of the year.

EVERY pill program has its negatives and positives. But to ruin our rep over a couple of sales a day not credited to affiliates... now THAT would be stupid.
When we get a sale come in with no affiliate ID, we research it to make sure it didn't come from an affiliate. (referral URL is tracked on the click etc)

I won't argue this anymore. But if any AFFILIATES are concerned about anything on our site I will address those concerns without a doubt.

brad i dont know ur sales volume but not counting "a couple of sales a day" would imply to me u don't know ur stuff.

Paypal & lost phone / fax orders is 30-40% OF SALES....

Losing a couple sales a day is ok for the affiliates then?? so a couple of $100 commision sales lost a day due to this is just fine?? now we know where the gimmicks are coming from :)

Regarding the telephone operator asking the person who is trying to purchase the product on the phone to look at their computer and find an affiliate ID is just a joke, i know from doing support that surfers are generally not the brightest, lets not kid ourselves u tell ur affiliate u track sales and ONLY now are u trying to change things on the site...

OH and paypal sales??? not being tracked AT ALL? agreed?


And i agree, show some professionalism and sell ur program on the qualities it as and i will do the same to mine.

Oh and just because ur a board whore doesn't mean the network u are working for is the best...

Xtremepay people are good folks! We got to spend a good deal of time with Brad in Vegas and he sat at our table at the V Bar. Good guys and great product!

Also.. you know it will bea fun group if Jman is involved.


By the way.... threadjacking is so last week. :1orglaugh

damn my english is poor.

excellent, sat at ur table and must be good, a personal recomendation from PerfectionGirls... quick i must go signup, Hows perfectiongirls going anyhow?? a lot of threads on GFY about u lately i see.

Brad,

We weren't so cheap when you needed a job.. As with everything in this industry "board whores" come and go. Duane and company don't have a real good rep in this industry some in my opinion they won't last that long anyways.

I think Darren made some valid points about your program, don't you agree?

I can only speak for my company, but on wishing.com we have no toll free #'s listed, no paypal payments, no exit consoles, etc.

We run it just like we run our 15 adult toy stores online, no links to anywhere else on the site.. With products you need to keep the traffic you have..

Ok, back to your rumblings, we are listening :)

´Hit me up on ICQ.. My sites is yours....

Jeff,

I don't think you posting right now is helping brad's cause out at all.

No offence, but you are so last week :)

I agree Todd, as I said you guys helped me out when I needed work. And in the email I wrote you I explained all of that in GREAT detail. But we know what happened that night. We can keep that one quiet. I haven't told anyone about it.

Darren made VERY good points. And as for the paypal sales I HONESTLY can't say if we do or not simply because I don't know. So I will find out and get back to you guys on that.

As for phone orders, every graphic and text will be changed to include the affiliate ID tomorrow. But as I say the amount of sales that go through without an affiliate ID are VERY low.

It's all good you guys. I'm not taking the offensivly at all. More than anything constructive critisism. Good time to see what people think. :)

Brad,

you don't have to keep anything quiet.

I wasn't pissed you moved on, I was dissapointed that it was with someone in the same industry / product line.

Old news, I have been around too long to hold grudges.

Well I'm glad everything is good to an extent Todd. I still hold you in high regard.

I honestly feel that the xboxes, cash bonuses, whatever can be thrown in the trash.

Does your site convert better than 1:20 on targeted traffic? If you could show a big player stats with 500 sales at that ratio, you get their attention.

Then show them their traffic doing that well, you get a new, productive affiliate.

Glitz, glam, and giveaways mean nothing to people who can send real sales. It boils down to the cash per hit sent to your program for most. If you can add an extra $1 per hit then people start to listen.

But what do I know, I don't even have any websites.

Dusen: No, you're right. And every pill guy on the board knows this.

brad, you disapoint me more and more, is buiz so bad that you have to start talking to pedos ??

Hey, that was a long time ago when I needed the money

brad please don't spout shit...

also u going to give all them affiliates the money they have been losing through phone sales and paypal sales?

dusen icq me on those articles.

Spouting shit? Where am I doing that. I would say YOU are the one speaking a whole lot of shit. And from the ICQ messages I am getting lots agree.

smells like fresh piss. :)

Brad peace bro, facts are clearly outlined in thread...

no paypal tracking, orders lost via phone tracking, loadsa outgoing links to sites not tracked... etc etc..

Oh and if people agree im full of shit, get them to post why here.

No more arguing, time to get back to business, good luck with however long u stay with this company.

I'll have JMan contact you Darren.

waiting... :)

He's still on the road. Wont be right away - but we can sort out any differences on a professional level.

lol , theres no differences mate, just pointing out the differences between our programs and answering your accusations of "my class"...

but yes, the end.

buy me a fleshlight and I'll send some sales ;)


my hand is getting wore out....repetitive motion injury


:thumbsup :thumbsup



seriously though, I'll holler atcha this week about sales & whatnot...

Fleshlight? You got it. Send me a couple of sales and Ill send you my used one. May be a little sticky still.

How about this.. you do the pregnant thing FOR me, and I'll do any kind of business with you that you like :P

I'll let you squeeze my neck in the delivery room. Fair?

Brad, drop me an ICQ 168389977 or Yahoo: acmeporncompany

I have a couple of ideas.

Scott

Well I'm glad everyone settled their differences like real men - have we returned to a professional level now? :glugglug

I'd just like to interject - as professionally as I know how - we have a fantastic program - I would consider perhaps the best in the pill industry right now. You would be losing out if you went with any other program and reading back over this thread, you will see the main differences.

PayPal signups and exit/cross sell signups as well as rebills are our hugest differences which can make up as much as 20-30% of your sales. If these things matter to you, then you're definitely going to want to be with our program. These things combined will give you higher payouts per signup than any other program on the net today.

Hit me up on ICQ: 310539245 and we'll get you a personalized program running that will blow the socks off the competition!

if you cant rejack your own threads you shouldnt be posting


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Who's that targetted at?