... I don't want your traffic, I want your affiliates, mate.

Good stuff. I need to set you up to use rxpride.com on monday. so don't send any traffic until then. Email me: [email protected] and I will make sure to do this first thing. :)

lol. Dude you crack me up. Seriously. I need to buy you a drink next time you're at a conference or get together.

The way he is talking , I think he will be buying you a drink.:1orglaugh

krazy: It's all good. There is plenty of room out there for competition. I think he's trying to be hostile as he always talks shit about me. But hey that's cool.

Kman does business the same way.

I could care less to be honest.

Is Xtremepay a Canadian company?

Yep, we're Canucks. Based out of Vancouver Island.

Understood

... no mate, after next week you don't feel like buying me drinks anymore. good night, I have to get some rest.

:1orglaugh :evil-laug
Night dude. Oh god you're hillarious.

Who owns Xtremepay?

2 guys. Duane and Kevin.
JMan is the #3 guy. Not an owner - but right up there.

Brad, what is your job there? Affiliate rep? Promo guy?

I am the affiliate manager. I basically recruit new affiliates and manage the old ones.

right ok...

time to get my 2 cents in... Just because we are competitors and this is what we do..

Can you buy these things like XBOXES etc for affiliate because the affiliates are not getting credit for

phone orders? (the big number at top of all ur pages)

toll free fax number? (again at top of pages)

or the paypal orders? (seemings everything that goes through securenetsafe i very much doubt u are)...

Problem with this is I KNOW the % of orders ur affiliates lose because of this and its approaching 40% , many people use paypal, many many people.

Also what about exit sales and upsales?

Lets play on a level field, go to ur boss and actually design a program which will give your affiliates THEIR SALES.

Regarding gimmics like xboxes etc, yeah u guys love them we know that... u send us sales we can do all this and give out prizes etc, what I am interested in doing is your bottom line, the $$$ you take away at the end of the month...

And to predict the backlash, yes we take paypal, yes affiliates get commision, yes we also the ONLY pill site which pays YOU REBILLS.

No we do not take phone orders, we did for a 2 week period until we realized that surfers do NOT have a clue the site name they just left to get to yours, so theres NO way u can credit affiliates.

MensNiche aint perfect but my aim is to provide a program which is setup to benefit urself, WHY should i benefit too much from ur traffic to the scale of like 40% of ur traffic purchasing via NOT tracked payment methods - I shouldn't.

If u want an higher bottom u know where to come.

Much love.

What about Ruth and Rodney?

Darren, are you sure there's no way to track phone orders? can't you have something like a reference number unique to the affiliate and ask the surfer to enter it or whatever...

might be worth looking into...
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nice darren :thumbsup

We have 3 MGP's with a total traffic of around 150K (all of them growing nicely). If you think we can make money by having a text link on them then I am game. I however have my doubts but I am willing to give it a go.

I have never tried selling penis pills or anything like that before but if you think it would work then hit me up on ICQ and we'll try it out. You can put together an advert for me since you said you will do anything to get business. I'll put it up and see how it does.

Deal? 164643450

That's pretty weak. our affiliates earn 50% from the beginning. and our average sale is over 200.

just an example of one of our affiliates:

http://www.pillsmoney.com/images/acc384.JPG

also our 50% might mean over 65% with other programs.
We don't deduct refunded orders.
We don't deduct chargebacks.
We don't deduct voided orders.
We don't deduct processing fees.

:)

I could be missing the obvious but I don't see it mentioned in the linking codes in stats. Oh - and the Jo Lube link 404's.

oh yes there is a way, of course there is but before posting this i checked and they don't do it.

nice stats Steve, u do things right over there, keep it going! :)

and yeah same as above for mensniche :) we pay processing fee etc etc :)

GO on AIM

Correct me if I'm wrong...

teenjump=Brad-Wishing=Brad-Xtremepay

Why not just be Brad and change your sig instead of your name all the time?

I think tracking paypal orders are really important, i'm converting quite well with Mensniche and it probably helps.

I think mail orders and phone orders could be tracked easily, both with a special unique number given to the surfer to give out, either asked by the phone lady or printed for the mail order. Of course there would still be people who would forget it, but the extra sales couldn't hurt.

That said i do appreciate getting credits for upsells, nothing makes me happier than sending a surfer to penis-health and an hour later see the same surfer give me an extra $100 in commission at prosolution pills.

On the other hand, do-hickeys like x-boxes (i already got one from wishing.com Thanks Wishing!) are nice and make you feel appreciated. I don't think it's mandatory to have them, but it sure can make you feel appreciated.

Darren, looks like you beat me to it - programs like MensNiche is certainly the way to go if you're going to be promoting pill sites.
We may not be giving away Xboxes and PS2's yet, but with MensNiche your bottom line will be way higher than with competing programs.

Like Darren said, credit for cross sales and upsales will boost your profit margins through the roof. The reason we're not giving away the big ticket prizes is because on average we're paying you so much more per surfer than any other program.

With no way to track telephone sales and fax orders at this point, the only way to go is to track ALL traffic coming in - whether it be from direct referrals or be it a visitor that comes back 6 months down the road - with our IP tracking and cookie tracking systems you will get not only the credit for this sale, but you'll get credit for the upsale, credit for the cross sale and rebills.

There's no other company matching the offer we have at this time - and as the slogan says "your bottom line will be higher with us".

Hit me up on ICQ when you want to start earning serious money instead of the meagre amounts that our competitors are offering!

ICQ: 310-539-245

Sure the Xboxes make you feel good...but how many times have you seen credit for an upsell like that $100 you got for a ProSolution sale? More times than the cost of that Xbox no doubt. With MensNiche - it's like a free Xbox every 2 or 3 times you get an upsell.

A half a dozen upsells and you could buy an Xbox and have $400 to spend on games too.

I realise the do-hickeys make you feel appreciated, but wouldn't you rather spend the money the way you want? If I'm wrong, let me know, and I'll get on twisting Darren's arm to give away some Xboxes :winkwink:

Should work well on your dome - don't forget though to buy the little lady some anti-glare glasses :Graucho

That's probably the best quote I've read on this board ever.

Damn, too bad I have no traffic. Oh well.

I wish I could bring myself to sling pills that don't work so I could take some shots in this thread.

I love drama.

Hi Dildozer,

Thanks for the sales. A Pleasure to send you an xbox or whatever you need :)
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Darren,

Well said on the post above. Even know we compete a little in the same field, I gotta say you run a first class operation, you always take care of your affiliates and convert like gold :)

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On the other hand, do-hickeys like x-boxes (i already got one from wishing.com Thanks Wishing!) are nice and make you feel appreciated. I don't think it's mandatory to have them, but it sure can make you feel appreciated.

Stocktrader,

you could aways try pushing the patches :)

Peace

Todd

Never thought about patches. I know what pills cost to manufacture and they are "dirt" cheap. Pun intended. :1orglaugh

yeah wishing.com mucho respecto to you guys we work well with you and love working with u, long may this continue! :)

just to calrify on one point BEN made and Dildozer made... regarding stuff like Xboxes they sure can be cute.... and ben is working on a nifty little promotion for all of you know... but as usual it will be different and it won't be a one time thanks! :)

Dildozer ur right about phone orders, they can be tracked... my point was they ARE NOT with XtremePay.. :)

theres a point there mate, we pay quite a bit extra for our pills because we are interested in quality and the surfer returning and we also give them everything they need so in the case of penis enhancement they get what they want - gains...

Stocktrader... can u hit me up soon as well.. im interested in having u on board.

Darren, I used to sell supplements to pharmacies for a company here in town. Not only did he sell nationwide he was in every major pharmacy warehouse such as McKesson (sp). He is a multimillionaire just selling them wholesale to stores that couldn't move the products at the time. ;) His stuff is manufactured in one of the best labs in the U.S. and I guarantee you for what it is it was quality ingredients etc. Even still, the only real cost was the bottle they came in.

I'll hit you up, on ICQ in a sec but I'm wondering what you meant by "on board".

Edit: Your ICQ wasn't online. Mine is 209235248.

I'm still not quite clear on how you jumped from one pill company to another. Also, why should I send you my traffic instead of these other companies?

I stopped by your booth briefly the other day. I JUST missed you. It was loud in there and I don't talk real loud, so I'm not going to fault the guy I was talking to, but I wasn't real impressed with the answers I was getting.

She's already got them. Mr Sheen does it wonders.