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Old 01-08-2004, 10:24 PM   #1
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GFYers i need your help, lifetime decision...

I have a shitty (it related) 'mainstream' job worth $1000/month, 8 hours a day, and the adult side is getting around 3k/month with just 2 hours a day.

The thing is i want to go fulltime adult NOW but my wife needs the security of the monthly mainstream paycheck.

what the fuck should i do?

take the leap and go 100% adult or be cautious about it?
any experience in the subject?
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:29 PM   #2
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I have a shitty (it related) 'mainstream' job worth $1000/month, 8 hours a day, and the adult side is getting around 3k/month with just 2 hours a day.

The thing is i want to go fulltime adult NOW but my wife needs the security of the monthly mainstream paycheck.

what the fuck should i do?

take the leap and go 100% adult or be cautious about it?
any experience in the subject?
$6.25/hr?
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:29 PM   #3
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if you really need security, dont go fulltime. Believe me this is one of the most unstable business in the world.

1 day you make $$$$$

next day you loose it all


Good luck anyway, remember if you use makebling at least your a little bit safer
shit, i forgot to ad i have 2 kids, the thing is i feel confident enough to go fulltime now, buying traffic at the right places, sending it to the right sponsors.... dunno, maybe i'm just dazzled.
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Sounds like you are ready but if you're really worried about it maybe try saving up for a couple months at least.

Would it be hard to get another 1k job if things suddenly blew up in your face?
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I have a shitty (it related) 'mainstream' job worth $1000/month, 8 hours a day,
No man should ever work 8 hours a day for 1k a month.

So without even considering the fact you make 3k with adult
you should quit that job right away.

Fucks up the karma.
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:31 PM   #7
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$6.25/hr?
yea, against 2.5/hr

but i know i can double or 3x that if i spend that 8 hours on adult.
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I agree with Mr.Thumbs about your salary... damn dude, you can make more at McDonalds...

But that aside, you should keep SOME mainstream job with stability and benefits and then do this:
Increase your daily porn work to 4 hours by staying up late into the night after the family is in bed. If you can double (or better) your porn income from that level of effort, maybe you will convince your wife and yourself that you have something. Or maybe you'll just keep making 5-7k/month without doing anything past that....
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:33 PM   #9
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Sounds like you are ready but if you're really worried about it maybe try saving up for a couple months at least.

Would it be hard to get another 1k job if things suddenly blew up in your face?
right, i saved the last 3 months and watched carefully if the adult thing fluctuated a lot, i need security but also the idea of making a lot more taking a LOT less bullshit (no boss) is very tempting.
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:35 PM   #11
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No man should ever work 8 hours a day for 1k a month.

So without even considering the fact you make 3k with adult
you should quit that job right away.

Fucks up the karma.
that's what's been going around in my head, the mainstream job is not even worth my time when i can invest that time in growing the adult side of things.
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Do you get health insurance benefits with the day job?
If so, keep it for now.
Getting insurance for you, your wife, and 2 kids is friggin' expensive when you're self-employed.

Wait until you're doing $10k/mo and then quit the day job. That will give you enough money to easily replace the health insurance without blinking and it will take long enough that you'll have moved past the big Visa crackdown and possibly the summer slowdown as well.

Dunno how long you've been doing this, but keep the job through at least one summer slowdown before making your decision.
There's just too many things coming up in the next few months that could really shake shit up and knock your income around - play it safe. If you didn't have kids I'd say go for it, but you gotta put them and their stability first.
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yea, against 2.5/hr

but i know i can double or 3x that if i spend that 8 hours on adult.
Dude.. whats your fucking problem:

If you were making 5k with your 9/5 job and 4k with adult
your question would be legit.

But you have nothing to lose: quit your fucking crappy job and
if a month later shit hits the fan and your adult imperium
collapses (something that wont happen) find a new 9/5 (and most
probably youll find one that pays better anyway).

But that wont be needed: youll do just fine with adult and make
more and more.. itll be the best decision of your life.
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:38 PM   #14
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how much do you need to live per month? save up enough to get you through 2 or 3 months then quit your job, then if the adult biz goes downhill for you you have something to fall back on, and plenty of time to look for another job
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:39 PM   #15
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I have a shitty (it related) 'mainstream' job worth $1000/month, 8 hours a day, and the adult side is getting around 3k/month with just 2 hours a day.

The thing is i want to go fulltime adult NOW but my wife needs the security of the monthly mainstream paycheck.

what the fuck should i do?

take the leap and go 100% adult or be cautious about it?
any experience in the subject?

Guess you are p-whipped. Doesn?t take a genius to figure this one out. But for clarification, does your low paying job include benefits for the family?
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:39 PM   #16
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Dude, I took the plunge and ditched my mainstream job. It's a lot more profitable on this side of the fence, with a lot less bullshit...unless you include the flack you get off here :P

If you can hang back 3 or 4 months, I'll keep you posted with how I do and let you know if it's worth your while.
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Here are the things to think about :

If you make $3000 for 2 hours a day, how much more would you
make doing it fulltime.

$1000 a month job is something you could recreate pretty quick if it all went down the drain. IF you can generate that kind of money in adult a job that pays shit is a waste of your time.

Going fulltime is scary when my wife called me and said it was time to come home , it was tough to leave the check that came if I worked hard or not and it was bigger than $1000 a month. As far as security, there is no security anymore in corporate America. I listened to Kimmy kim and I am diversifying my business so all my eggs arent in one basket. So if a change happens its not the end of the world.

Another thought can be your wife doesnt want you home full time. lol I have friend, his wife got use to have her me time and it was hard for her to adjust at first him home all the time.
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:40 PM   #19
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Fuckup at work till you get fired then your wife will feel sorry for you.
If you quit the wife will be pissed off.
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:41 PM   #20
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I your making 3k from this and 1k at a full time job it's a no brainer man. Adult! You got nothing to loose; it's a shitty job that pays fuck all!! You can always get another shitty jog! Plus you can devote all your time to abult. If want you can find i Part-time job, Fuck i got al kinds of those!

Adult! That's what i say!
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:43 PM   #21
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Do you get health insurance benefits with the day job?
If so, keep it for now.
Getting insurance for you, your wife, and 2 kids is friggin' expensive when you're self-employed.

Wait until you're doing $10k/mo and then quit the day job. That will give you enough money to easily replace the health insurance without blinking and it will take long enough that you'll have moved past the big Visa crackdown and possibly the summer slowdown as well.

Dunno how long you've been doing this, but keep the job through at least one summer slowdown before making your decision.
There's just too many things coming up in the next few months that could really shake shit up and knock your income around - play it safe. If you didn't have kids I'd say go for it, but you gotta put them and their stability first.
thanks a lot, no no health insurance or nothing, this mainstream job is a 'webmaster' position for a mainstrem site. it's just that i keep taking shit from my current employer (redesigns before each 'important' meeting' each month and lots of other crap when i could be making lots of money working for my own... (ie wasting time) since the company is a "dot com" the security also is very fragile since they can also be out of business overnight.
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If you quit the wife will be pissed off.
Sounds like a plan, but what if adult goes tits up for him? He may need the option of being able to get his job back. It doesn't do well to close all the doors.

I would start applying for other mainstream jobs, and then when you've got a couple of offers on the table, quit your current job, stall those with offers for a week or two, put 8 hours a day in at adult for as long as you can stall the other jobs and then make a decision. Was the 2 weeks in adult profitable enough to say to the companies offering you the jobs - sorry but I've accepted another job offer (Adult), or do you accept one of the other offers?

It could all blow up in your face, but this one leaves the most doors open for you to backtrack if something goes wrong.
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I highly doubt a job that pays $6.25 a hour has benefits lol. I checked with KP if you live where they are you can get full coverage for your family for $455 a month and if you incorporate you can pay for part of that with pretax dollars.
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isn't that pay rate below minimum wage for an adult? is that legal to pay somebody that?



a dotcom is paying a webmaster 6.25 an hour? damn.
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Good luck anyway, remember if you use makebling at least your a little bit safer
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Here are the things to think about :

If you make $3000 for 2 hours a day, how much more would you
make doing it fulltime.

$1000 a month job is something you could recreate pretty quick if it all went down the drain. IF you can generate that kind of money in adult a job that pays shit is a waste of your time.

Going fulltime is scary when my wife called me and said it was time to come home , it was tough to leave the check that came if I worked hard or not and it was bigger than $1000 a month. As far as security, there is no security anymore in corporate America. I listened to Kimmy kim and I am diversifying my business so all my eggs arent in one basket. So if a change happens its not the end of the world.

Another thought can be your wife doesnt want you home full time. lol I have friend, his wife got use to have her me time and it was hard for her to adjust at first him home all the time.
It all makes sense, i can recreate $1000/month pretty easily, the diversifying point is ok too, and i'm already at home full time so that's no problem. Already been trough your friend'a peoblem before
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Tony most of them do, actually. In the majority of cases, full time = benefits. Wal-Mart is one I can immediately think of that pays shit but has full blown benefits.

Nickless, if there's no benefits, then there's really no benefit to staying UNLESS it would be hard for you to get another job in your area if the adult doesn't work out.
I'd still say wait a few months until Visa starts their punishments for breaking the 1% limit and see what happens, though.

Plus I agree with what someone else said - take your 2 hours every night and double it. If you think you can make more money working longer adult hours, test it first and see.
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a dotcom is paying a webmaster 6.25 an hour? damn.
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Dude you should quit this job anyways. YOU can always find a job that makes 1k a month But you are worth more so quit it and if porn dies get a 3k a month job.
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And if $6.25 an hour is appealing hit me up I got some work for you that is flexible

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Tony most of them do, actually. In the majority of cases, full time = benefits. Wal-Mart is one I can immediately think of that pays shit but has full blown benefits.

Nickless, if there's no benefits, then there's really no benefit to staying UNLESS it would be hard for you to get another job in your area if the adult doesn't work out.
I'd still say wait a few months until Visa starts their punishments for breaking the 1% limit and see what happens, though.

Plus I agree with what someone else said - take your 2 hours every night and double it. If you think you can make more money working longer adult hours, test it first and see.
no benefits, i'm not in the US (yup outsourcing) , the US company i work for (since 3+ years ago ) takes advantage of this (well they can't afford US emploees anyway)

I'll start doubling my time in adult now, scary how everyone mentions the upcoming visa punishments, is it going to be that bad?

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Here's my input -

The adult business is probably not what you want to make your lifetime career out of...or maybe so, but seldom do

I would suggest you consider going to school. This is something I could imagine your wife supporting. Since her husband won't quit a "respectable" job (can tell relatives, friends) to a (gasp!) porn job. You'd be a full time student. You'd make more money today, work less, and be preparing for the future.
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Good luck anyway, remember if you use makebling at least your a little bit safer
Valid point, I think i must have set up 5 times with billing companies fucking going down and shit.
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I'm in a similar situation, except I make about as much doing mainstream as I do in adult and I have very good insurance benefits at my workplace.

Problem is I've been blowing all my cash and haven't saved up much.

Here's my course of action for leaving mainstream: I'm taking a 4 week leave of absence to devote my ass to my adult mini-empire and to make it grow. Once I've saved up the equivalent of approx 6 months of mainstream salary, I will quit mainstream and do adult full time.

Luckily, I live alone. I have no dependants to worry about.
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I have a shitty (it related) 'mainstream' job worth $1000/month, 8 hours a day, and the adult side is getting around 3k/month with just 2 hours a day.

The thing is i want to go fulltime adult NOW but my wife needs the security of the monthly mainstream paycheck.

what the fuck should i do?

take the leap and go 100% adult or be cautious about it?
any experience in the subject?
It all depends what you do in adult.... it might be good now,,,, and not tomorrow
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Why dont you just be a man and make your own decisions?
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Old 01-09-2004, 01:29 AM   #42
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1,000k per month? You can make that washing dishes. In fact, I made more than that waiting tables in college. What about finding a better full time job and increasing your work time on adult stuff to 4 hours a day?

Or find a part time job that will allow you take on full time if desired. Do both, and see what will work best for you.
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Old 01-09-2004, 01:48 AM   #43
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You can work at HomeDepot and get full benefits as a part timer and make at least $9 an hour as a cashier. If you know shit they pay alot. I worked there 2 years ago and made $17 an hour in the electrical department. Plus i have 5 years electrical experience so it helped. Thats in Pennsylvania i dont know about your area. If you can stand people coming in asking you to cut something they measured in centimeters or to cut a circle out of a square tile with a wet saw your in

p.s. you work whatever department they put you in if they are short handed thats why i quit
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Old 01-09-2004, 01:57 AM   #44
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Go full time, you're not exactly going to have trouble finding another $6.25 an hour job if it doesn't work out.
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Old 01-09-2004, 01:59 AM   #45
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No man should ever work 8 hours a day for 1k a month.

So without even considering the fact you make 3k with adult
you should quit that job right away.

Fucks up the karma.
yeah...unless your wife convinced you that $1000 a month is a "Career"
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Old 01-09-2004, 02:17 AM   #46
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Here's my input -

The adult business is probably not what you want to make your lifetime career out of...or maybe so, but seldom do

I would suggest you consider going to school. This is something I could imagine your wife supporting. Since her husband won't quit a "respectable" job (can tell relatives, friends) to a (gasp!) porn job. You'd be a full time student. You'd make more money today, work less, and be preparing for the future.
I agree with this 100%.

At the very least, take a couple part time courses, and work 4-6 hours a day in adult to keep money coming in.

Build a resume, you never know where the adult industry online is gonna go or how long it will last.
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Old 01-09-2004, 02:18 AM   #47
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How the fuck is quitting a job... a lifetime decision???


Being a pussywipped bitch, however, is.


Leave the slut, shes cheating.
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Old 01-09-2004, 03:37 AM   #48
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its much safer to stay in the mainstream for a while then work with adult biz
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Old 01-09-2004, 03:43 AM   #49
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IMO keep your job cause this biz goes thru rough times once and a while. One month you make next month you don't stick with it tell you know for a fact you can make it soley off this biz. Just my
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Old 01-09-2004, 03:43 AM   #50
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