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Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed. |
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amateurpages is probably the most successfull paysite, but...
Is Lensman having an ugly contest? Fuck, I went to that site today and almost puked. I would never second guess what Lensman does but holy geez.
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If thats the way it is, thats the way it is. There is no second guessing it.
Yahoo is pretty nasty also but ya can not really argue with multi million dollar methodology.
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I just visited that site, too.
The only thing that made me wonder is that it says: Updated 10/25/03 but that is not my problem ( if it is any at all ) ( edited for spelling )
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"Updated 10/25/03"
Hey now thats something! 90% of the todays tours on the net do not even have that! Stop before I begin to laugh to hard!
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I would disagree with the subject line, but I see the point you were trying to make. Check out the original site that Amateur Pages ripped off (in my opinion). http://www.southern-charms.com The above site has been up since 1996 and puts all other sites to shame. No webmaster program, no B.S., just the best amateur site put on the web. The uglier they are the better they sell. |
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yea, since it's "Amatuer" it should look like it :-) |
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are we talking amateurpages.com here?
Doesnt look that bad to me. |
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I find that too many people in this industry have no clue as to what customers actually want. But I guess that is why so few people make real money. |
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Correct. He could buy and sell most anyone on this board. |
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Ugly chicks convert.
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I'm sure he makes shit.
There's no live cams or text chat. Quote:
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uglyornot would be a hot start.
10 if you think really ugly. |
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Ugly Sells...
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Perfect (PlayBoy) models are a niche, the same as Transsexuals, Ebony, Bondage, celeb, etc. As with all niches there is money to be made, some more than others. I will clue you into a little point of reference: If it is amateur, it will make money. If it is original amateur content it will make more money. If it is original amateur video content it will make more. You can not fight years and years of revenue numbers backing my responses up. Every major affiliate program goes where the traffic is, and does their revenue off of wholesale volume. Supermarket style. There are individual sites that NET more than some of the largest webmaster programs. NET is all I care about. |
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![]() WOW! you obviously don't know shit... but nice ScreenName. I'll match you with a blunt anytime. Just no backwoods or phillies.
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Amateur sites do well as do other niches. It all depends on marketing.
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When you realize that flashy sites only sell to webmasters, you will be better off. This is not a slam in any way, I am honestly trying to make you realize that the shit you see slung around this message board is NOT what makes money. Browse the web, and the biggest money is being made by people you have never heard of. As for your last comment, "Amateur sites do well as do other niches. It all depends on marketing". Amateur is IT. What do you think Busty Amateurs, VoyeurDorm, Bang Bus (Bang Bros/NastyDollars in general), Southern Charms, A.T.K, etc. all have/had in common? Hot Playboy models? NO. ORIGINAL ->AMATEUR<- CONTENT (with marketing behind them). Help me, help you. What are bad ass money making sites in your opinion? Have you cleared a million dollars in a month (year)? No? Try amateur. |
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And yes, I am rich, but not as rich as the players in the Amateur/Original content market. The point of the conversation was to make you rich, which you have blown off. You have retreated into your shell, needlessly, and chose to end this conversation with defense mechanisms. -dd |
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100 posts = you make 1k a month
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Please dont give me this "I've been in the business forever and am better than you" attitude. I just laugh at you.
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The ugly ones DO sell better, that is what I said, and that is what is correct. Of x000 sales a day, 90% of those are for the 'ugly'/average ones. The good looking take 7 or 8% and the really hot ones take the remaining crumbs. </brushing aside the additional defense mechanisms> As I said ALL of my input is ALWAYS based upon facts. HARD numbers. End of discussion, this is pointless. Hopefully someone else reading this will take these FACTS and put them to use. -dd |
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Amatuer Pages does well cause it has some 20000 sites sending traffic to it! 10,000,000 hits a days gonna make a fews bucks!
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davidd is right... text based basic looking sites do very well and its not a secret.
You don't see ebay and yahoo bogging down your browser with excessive graphics. Its porn they want not some photoshop gurus life's work.
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Only the front tour page contains at least 10 spelling/grammar errors. Somebody needs to brush up on their English speaking skills.
"This babe is studying to be a vetranarian so we decided to through her a couple of animals..." "This college freshmen " "She likes guys who take charge of a situtation" "and she turned our to be a total slut." "She's 6 feet tall, atheletic" ![]() |
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But then again, these issues are pointless as long as there are ->HOT<- babes on the front and the site looks really really flashy. Because as we have all been told previously flashy, graphics heavy sites obviously convert better. |
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southern-charms.com is huge. I don't think it's bigger than AP, but for sure bigger than many known paysites.
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Searches done in November 2003
13501 southerncharms.com 8879 southern-charms.com this could be up to 25k typeins/day I won't be surprised if they have 20k active members. The site uses multiple servers for different model girls. This means they push bandwidth. as far the chatroom, doesn't mean a lot of thing. I remember when call-kelly added a forum,nobody was registering. http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...ern-charms.com 3535, not bad dont you think for paysite with no affiliate program? ![]() |
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Southern-Charms is listed on SexTracker site rankings. Your numbers are too low on the active members. But then again, the site looks like shit and has 'Fat Ugly Skank Bitches' so it must not make any money. I would say it easily NET's more than AmateurPages. Lensman has to pay TGPers. |
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Of course, AP's rank is higher, but that is one hell of a rank for a paysite with no affiliates.
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good shit
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Southern-Charms might be the most successful adult site of all. I have heard the guy has made ungodly amount of money. Owns his own jet - think that's what i heard. I always knew it was very successful but i was told it is much bigger than I thought.
Big affiliate programs payout huge money to webmasters and all the other costs of running a big program. there are some lean companies out there like Southern-Charms and AmateurTeenKingdom who do tremendous word of mouth business - much more profitable. it's possible that some of these guys take home more money than the biggest affiliate program operators.
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though i think the bigtime spammers have made more than pretty much everyone.
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Amateurs arent suppose to look pretty
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