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brizzad · 01-02-2004, 05:28 PM

On the one mainstream site I run, paypal froze my account for no reason and is having fun with my money...soooo... time to switch.

Anyone ever have any problems with Verotel?

reynold · 01-02-2004, 05:29 PM

The jury's out on this. Some say they are good. Others say they see shades of GLOBILL.

BillMePro · 01-02-2004, 05:30 PM

brizzad check us out and ICQ me if you have any questions

christianrod30 · 01-02-2004, 06:14 PM

Verotel is working fine for me until now. Tomorrow never knows.

Even audited companies are crashing...what can you expect from this kind of company that you do not know anything?

CCBill, Verotel, etc. They do not show their figures. So, our only comfort is they are in business for a long time.

axelcat · 01-02-2004, 06:20 PM

ccbill rox

NETbilling · 01-02-2004, 06:22 PM

Hi,

We can set you up in 1 day with a merchant account to process your mainstream site and save you a ton of $$$.

Contact our sales department for more info and no setup fee.

Thanks, Mitch

psyko514 · 01-02-2004, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
Hi,

We can set you up in 1 day with a merchant account to process your mainstream site and save you a ton of $$$.

Contact our sales department for more info and no setup fee.

Thanks, Mitch

if i'm a canadian citizen looking to process recurring memberships on a small paysite, can you do that for me? if yes, what and how long does it take to set up an account? and what are the fees?

NETbilling · 01-02-2004, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514

if i'm a canadian citizen looking to process recurring memberships on a small paysite, can you do that for me? if yes, what and how long does it take to set up an account? and what are the fees?

Unless you are processing over 40k per month, we cannot help you with a paysite from Canada. Sorry.

Mitch

doober · 01-02-2004, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling

Unless you are processing over 40k per month, we cannot help you with a paysite from Canada. Sorry.

Mitch

why does 40k a amonth change the already obvious rules about processing?

chuk · 01-02-2004, 08:24 PM

I'm not fond of Verotel. They suspended my account, fucked me out of my money, and won't respond to my emails asking them what the fuck is going on.

blackmonsters · 01-02-2004, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brizzad
On the one mainstream site I run, paypal froze my account for no reason and is having fun with my money...soooo... time to switch.

Anyone ever have any problems with Verotel?

I just joined Verotel and the set up was so so so so easy!!!
CBill ws hard for me to set up and I had to get their techy to do it for me.

Some people think Verotel will not be around becuase they don't charge the $750 Visa fee and will be shut down like Globill.
Well, I don't know because Verotel is not "Off Shore". It is a true company in another country using foreign banks which may not back Visa up on these fees.

I say go with them and start making money now!
Making some money is better than making no money.
Just keep a list of your members and if something starts looking funny then try to move everyone to a new processor.

blackmonsters · 01-02-2004, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chuk
I'm not fond of Verotel. They suspended my account, fucked me out of my money, and won't respond to my emails asking them what the fuck is going on.

Details????

They must have stated a reason. Did you sell illegal content, spam, too many chargebacks... what?

Without a reason your complaint sounds like you fucked up and now you blame them.

NETbilling · 01-02-2004, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober

why does 40k a amonth change the already obvious rules about processing?

If they are processing over 40k per month, we can assist in an offshore merchant account.

Mitch

chuk · 01-02-2004, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Details????

They must have stated a reason. Did you sell illegal content, spam, too many chargebacks... what?

Without a reason your complaint sounds like you fucked up and now you blame them.

That's the thing - I didn't do anything wrong (that I know of). I logged into my account to find out why I didn't get my last check, and it said the account was suspended.

There were no other details, and they won't get back to me.

psyko514 · 01-02-2004, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Well, I don't know because Verotel is not "Off Shore". It is a true company in another country using foreign banks which may not back Visa up on these fees.

iirc, this is what WSB was doing...

Shoplifter · 01-02-2004, 09:50 PM

We set up teenfilipina.com with Verotel in late October and the growth of the site has been explosive. We have a standing membership of over 1000 already and a number of our affiliates are already hitting the $100+/day mark. I feel that Verotel has had a big part to play in this success. I've used them as a secondary on my other sites since the big Visa scare in Oct 2002 and never missed a payment.

spooky181 · 01-02-2004, 10:17 PM

I switched from Scrubbill to Verotel last year, and ever since my sales have skyrocketed. Verotel has been absolutely the best...

psyko514 · 01-02-2004, 10:31 PM

Verotel processes for Asian countries, correct?

And those who are presently using Verotel, what fee options are you using? The Split Charge option or the Charge Webmaster option? Has anyone tried both?

SoundMan · 01-03-2004, 12:05 AM

Does anyone use there revshare program ????

Mr. Mojo Risin · 01-03-2004, 12:19 AM

I like them... $0 startup fees.. click in my sig to sign up

chuk · 01-03-2004, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoundMan
Does anyone use there revshare program ????

That's what I'm having problems with.

SoundMan · 01-03-2004, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chuk

That's what I'm having problems with.

I have ibill and was going to offer verotel as well and was wondering how it goes, post back when you find out

pamphage · 01-03-2004, 12:58 AM

i highly recommend them for smaller sites. not sure i'd trust them for something that does a mad amount of volume though. at anyrate i've never had the slightest bit of problem with them. their wires come in like clockwork.

spooky181 · 01-03-2004, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoundMan
Does anyone use there revshare program ????

I use them for my program to promote www.cheatingxxxwife.com because we don't have a huge program they are fine. If you had a large program you would find it difficult to set up the hosted galleries, (I only have 30 hosted galleries) otherwise there reseller program is fine...

SoundMan · 01-03-2004, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spooky181

I use them for my program to promote www.cheatingxxxwife.com because we don't have a huge program they are fine. If you had a large program you would find it difficult to set up the hosted galleries, (I only have 30 hosted galleries) otherwise there reseller program is fine...

thanks for the info, i know there servers are slow.

chuk · 01-03-2004, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoundMan

I have ibill and was going to offer verotel as well and was wondering how it goes, post back when you find out

I think my case might just be a misunderstanding. From what everyone else has said I think I'll continue with them once it's strightened out.

inthestars · 01-03-2004, 01:28 AM

Sign up with Verotel. I've used them for three years and they've never missed a payment.

The best part is the phone billing in addition to the credit card processing. See my sig and sign up, you'll be processing in less than 48 hours.

psyko514 · 01-05-2004, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
Verotel processes for Asian countries, correct?

And those who are presently using Verotel, what fee options are you using? The Split Charge option or the Charge Webmaster option? Has anyone tried both?

can anyone answer this?

schilli · 01-05-2004, 10:24 PM

I use CCBill as my primary, 2000Charge as a secondary and Verotel as my third.

I use to use Verotel as my main but was suspended because chargebacks were to high. Verotel does not scrub credit card transactions enought -- especially ones from asia. My chargebacks through other processors were non existent except for Verotel.

Bottom line -- only use Verotel for phone/1-900/perminute billing and checking - do not use them to process CC.

Ya dig!?

psyko514 · 01-05-2004, 10:25 PM

a lot of people think they're better because they don't scrub as hard.
besides, you don't pay the chargebacks fees, so you're ok if you stay under 1%

seven · 01-05-2004, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
can anyone answer this?

Never tried split cos don't think subscribers like any additional charges too much.. but you never know for sure til you try so why don't you try and let everyone know instead

xxxoutsourcing · 01-05-2004, 10:27 PM

Works for us as our back up processor and for diaper sites, they pay on time evrytime and the customer service is pretty good.

psyko514 · 01-05-2004, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seven

Never tried split cos don't think subscribers like any additional charges too much.. but you never know for sure til you try so why don't you try and let everyone know instead

i will when/if i get a paysite up. i just want to here other opinions before i try it myself.

chuk · 01-05-2004, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chuk

I think my case might just be a misunderstanding. From what everyone else has said I think I'll continue with them once it's strightened out.

Everything is strightened out now. Verotel is cool

Jedimaster · 01-06-2004, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brizzad
On the one mainstream site I run, paypal froze my account for no reason and is having fun with my money...soooo... time to switch.

Anyone ever have any problems with Verotel?

PayPal is still holding 5k of my money.

I'm only 2 months throught the 6 month waiting process.

faxxaff · 01-06-2004, 08:56 AM

I signed up for Verotel and send a question to their customer service 4 days ago ...... until now NO reply .... not even a reaction after I sent them a reminder this morning ...

doober · 01-06-2004, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by faxxaff
I signed up for Verotel and send a question to their customer service 4 days ago ...... until now NO reply .... not even a reaction after I sent them a reminder this morning ...

if you have access to the admin theres a live chat button, if not theres on on the front page also but is usually for surfer support...
emails you can forget about, try calling them..at least they answer the phones.

basschick · 01-06-2004, 09:54 AM

people talk about getting paid now, but if visa eu comes up with similar rules to visa u.s., paysites stand to lose all their rebills. maybe there's a way to look into this further.

jungar · 01-06-2004, 09:58 AM

"if i'm a canadian citizen looking to process recurring memberships on a small paysite, can you do that for me? if yes, what and how long does it take to set up an account? and what are the fees?

Psyko 514, please email me at jungar AT myvirtualcard.com. We a third party payment solution and we can most certainly assist you.

Feel free to call us at 514-287-0009.

Regards,

Joshua

xxxdesign-net · 01-06-2004, 10:26 AM

got this today
******************

Dear Verotel Customer,

We believe that 2004 will be a year of strong and sustainable
growth for our business and that of our customers.

Despite all the changes in the online billing market, especially
with the branding and chargeback regulations of VISA and MasterCard,
Verotel has remained rock solid, and it will be our pleasure to
introduce many new features to our payment systems for your
convenience.

In 2003 we added weekly payouts, a new invoicing system, a new
rate system and 18x7 merchant support. In 2004 we will add a
new reporting system, new reseller technologies and much more.

We believe that it is our duty to inform you personally about
changes in our market and in our business, and that's why we
have decided to sponsor the:

*** WEBMASTER EVENT EUROPE 2004 ***

We invite everybody to this unique webmaster event in downtown
Amsterdam on February 11th, 12th and 13th of this year, where we
will discuss not only payments solutions, but also niche marketing
techniques, webmaster experiences, cam per-minute websites and
much more.

Join us at the WEE2004. More information can be found at
http://www.wee2004.com

Attending as guest or as an exhibitor is open for everybody in
the Adult Entertainment business. Meet, mix and mingle with
colleagues and competitors! And: have fun!

If you have any questions about this event, please contact
the event administrator at [email protected].

Kind regards,

Verotel Management

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01-02-2004, 05:28 PM	#1
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01-02-2004, 05:30 PM	#3
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01-02-2004, 06:14 PM	#4
christianrod30 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 286	Verotel is working fine for me until now. Tomorrow never knows. Even audited companies are crashing...what can you expect from this kind of company that you do not know anything? CCBill, Verotel, etc. They do not show their figures. So, our only comfort is they are in business for a long time. __________________ Christian Rod ICQ 103-946-210 msn: [email protected]

01-02-2004, 06:22 PM	#6
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	Hi, We can set you up in 1 day with a merchant account to process your mainstream site and save you a ton of $$$. Contact our sales department for more info and no setup fee. Thanks, Mitch __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

01-02-2004, 05:29 PM	#2
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	The jury's out on this. Some say they are good. Others say they see shades of GLOBILL.

01-02-2004, 06:20 PM	#5
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01-02-2004, 08:24 PM	#10
chuk Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: WI Posts: 682	I'm not fond of Verotel. They suspended my account, fucked me out of my money, and won't respond to my emails asking them what the fuck is going on.

01-02-2004, 09:50 PM	#16
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,726	We set up teenfilipina.com with Verotel in late October and the growth of the site has been explosive. We have a standing membership of over 1000 already and a number of our affiliates are already hitting the $100+/day mark. I feel that Verotel has had a big part to play in this success. I've used them as a secondary on my other sites since the big Visa scare in Oct 2002 and never missed a payment.

01-02-2004, 10:17 PM	#17
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	I switched from Scrubbill to Verotel last year, and ever since my sales have skyrocketed. Verotel has been absolutely the best...

01-02-2004, 10:31 PM	#18
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	Verotel processes for Asian countries, correct? And those who are presently using Verotel, what fee options are you using? The Split Charge option or the Charge Webmaster option? Has anyone tried both? __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

01-03-2004, 12:05 AM	#19
SoundMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MidWest Posts: 3,471	Does anyone use there revshare program ????

01-03-2004, 12:19 AM	#20
Mr. Mojo Risin Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the middle of nowhere Posts: 1,886	I like them... $0 startup fees.. click in my sig to sign up

01-03-2004, 12:58 AM	#23
pamphage Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 3,569	i highly recommend them for smaller sites. not sure i'd trust them for something that does a mad amount of volume though. at anyrate i've never had the slightest bit of problem with them. their wires come in like clockwork. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

01-03-2004, 01:28 AM	#27
inthestars Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 2,021	Sign up with Verotel. I've used them for three years and they've never missed a payment. The best part is the phone billing in addition to the credit card processing. See my sig and sign up, you'll be processing in less than 48 hours.

01-05-2004, 10:24 PM	#29
schilli Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 265	I use CCBill as my primary, 2000Charge as a secondary and Verotel as my third. I use to use Verotel as my main but was suspended because chargebacks were to high. Verotel does not scrub credit card transactions enought -- especially ones from asia. My chargebacks through other processors were non existent except for Verotel. Bottom line -- only use Verotel for phone/1-900/perminute billing and checking - do not use them to process CC. Ya dig!?

01-05-2004, 10:25 PM	#30
psyko514 See sig. Join Epic Cash. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec. ICQ: 214702014 Posts: 22,366	a lot of people think they're better because they don't scrub as hard. besides, you don't pay the chargebacks fees, so you're ok if you stay under 1% __________________ Bad Girl Bucks - 50% Revshare through CCBill. Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more! Phoenix Forum Pics \| Webmaster Access Montreal pics email: psyko514(a)gmail.com \| icq: 214-702-014

01-05-2004, 10:27 PM	#32
xxxoutsourcing Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,888	Works for us as our back up processor and for diaper sites, they pay on time evrytime and the customer service is pretty good. __________________ xxxoutsourcing.com ICQ:119936 \| Aim:xxxoutsourcing \| MSN:msn@ xxxoutsourcing.com \| Yahoo:xxxoutsourcing Submitters, Designers, Programmers, Cartoonist, Creative Writers, Video & Photo Editors Convert your Paysite into a cartoon site convert2toons.com

01-06-2004, 08:56 AM	#36
faxxaff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marina Hemingway Posts: 2,134	I signed up for Verotel and send a question to their customer service 4 days ago ...... until now NO reply .... not even a reaction after I sent them a reminder this morning ... __________________ Asian Babes

01-06-2004, 09:54 AM	#38
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01-06-2004, 09:58 AM	#39
jungar Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 377	"if i'm a canadian citizen looking to process recurring memberships on a small paysite, can you do that for me? if yes, what and how long does it take to set up an account? and what are the fees? Psyko 514, please email me at jungar AT myvirtualcard.com. We a third party payment solution and we can most certainly assist you. Feel free to call us at 514-287-0009. Regards, Joshua

01-06-2004, 10:26 AM	#40
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	got this today **************** Dear Verotel Customer, We believe that 2004 will be a year of strong and sustainable growth for our business and that of our customers. Despite all the changes in the online billing market, especially with the branding and chargeback regulations of VISA and MasterCard, Verotel has remained rock solid, and it will be our pleasure to introduce many new features to our payment systems for your convenience. In 2003 we added weekly payouts, a new invoicing system, a new rate system and 18x7 merchant support. In 2004 we will add a new reporting system, new reseller technologies and much more. We believe that it is our duty to inform you personally about changes in our market and in our business, and that's why we have decided to sponsor the: * WEBMASTER EVENT EUROPE 2004 *** We invite everybody to this unique webmaster event in downtown Amsterdam on February 11th, 12th and 13th of this year, where we will discuss not only payments solutions, but also niche marketing techniques, webmaster experiences, cam per-minute websites and much more. Join us at the WEE2004. More information can be found at http://www.wee2004.com Attending as guest or as an exhibitor is open for everybody in the Adult Entertainment business. Meet, mix and mingle with colleagues and competitors! And: have fun! If you have any questions about this event, please contact the event administrator at [email protected]. Kind regards, Verotel Management