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aflex · 01-05-2004, 01:20 AM

yes its true.. i feel bad because i liked her too..

if anyone cares i'll post my evidence

klik · 01-05-2004, 01:21 AM

i don't give a shit..

but post evidence anyways. i'm bored.

pamphage · 01-05-2004, 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by aflex
yes its true.. i feel bad because i liked her too..

if anyone cares i'll post my evidence

like milli vanilli (sp?) type fraud?

Adult Site Traffic · 01-05-2004, 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by klik
but post evidence anyways. i'm bored.

I agree. Post it...

aflex · 01-05-2004, 01:30 AM

i really feel ripped off because i respected her alot as a talent.. she still has great talent but not as much as i thought now after hearing this..

ok here's my evidence.. it comes from a Single from 1966 by a Soul group called "The Main Ingredient" the song in question is their song "Let Me Prove My Love To You"..

now if you're familiar with Alicia Keys hit song "You Dont Know My Name", you wont have to download the mp3 im posting of it.. but help yourself anyway..

please listen to the song from 1966 then Alicia Keys' song.

1966 - The Main Ingredient - Let Me Prove My Love To You

2003 - Alicia Keys - You Dont Know My Name

post your thoughts

aflex · 01-05-2004, 01:33 AM

btw listen to the whole song from 1966

liquidmoe · 01-05-2004, 01:35 AM

Im no musical expert, but isnt the beginning of the alicia keys song taken completely from a riff in the older '66 track?

masta flash · 01-05-2004, 01:35 AM

i once had sex with her. she was not good. i want my money back

fucking fruads! i hate them

rooster · 01-05-2004, 01:36 AM

black people call this 'sampling'

pamphage · 01-05-2004, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by masta flash
i once had sex with her. she was not good. i want my money back

fucking fruads! i hate them

scarey! i was just wondering what happend to you and that guy in your sig yesterday! and poof! here you are! lol

liquidmoe · 01-05-2004, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
black people call this 'sampling'

aflex · 01-05-2004, 01:37 AM

yeah rooster, but supposedly shes a musical genius.. i held her musical talents in high regard..

masta flash · 01-05-2004, 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by pamphage

scarey! i was just wondering what happend to you and that guy in your sig yesterday! and poof! here you are! lol

masta flash is forever.. recignize

PEACE OUT!

aflex · 01-05-2004, 01:38 AM

this isnt p diddy or the neptunes, shes winning awards for this shit..

iroc409 · 01-05-2004, 01:38 AM

lol, it seems there's not much in the way of new music these days. especially it seems on the radio and the rap/r&b genres. sometimes the remix hits the radio before the original song does. everybody uses everybody's lyrics and songs. it's kinda lame.

hell, look back at 'house of the rising sun'. it was a rip from leadbelly in the early 1900's or whatever.

Doctor Dre · 01-05-2004, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by liquidmoe
Im no musical expert, but isnt the beginning of the alicia keys song taken completely from a riff in the older '66 track?

Eminem stole whole songs from Led Zeppelin and mixed others . All rap songs are just sample nowdays from old tracks . Music became masturbation and nothing new is beeing created . We just dont know because we dunno shit about music anymore.

foolio · 01-05-2004, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by aflex
yeah rooster, but supposedly shes a musical genius.. i held her musical talents in high regard..

Its all good - she just pulled a p-diddy there.

liquidmoe · 01-05-2004, 01:38 AM

I thought she had most of her acclaim for singing, not for the piano?

Doctor Dre · 01-05-2004, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by aflex
this isnt p diddy or the neptunes, shes winning awards for this shit..

Neptunes are actually musical geniouses ... I think they are brigning things to a new level . Alicia keys didnt bring shit . And Djs like Jazzy Jeff and other commercial rappers have won grammies ... Even lil john won a grammy for GET LOW . Awards are all bullshit nowdays and this isnt about the creation but more the commercial success as nothing new is getting created.

flashfire · 01-05-2004, 01:41 AM

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black people call this 'sampling'

To every newer hip-hop or rb song there is a classic being ripped off

aflex · 01-05-2004, 01:41 AM

its the combination of singing, piano, musical style, and soulful style that made her seem so great in terms of music..

track 3 on her album is also a Gladys Knighht song "if i was your woman"

liquidmoe · 01-05-2004, 01:42 AM

There is still some new and interesting shit out there, Dizee Rascal in England has some weird fucked up rap that I definitely never heard in the states.

Doctor Dre · 01-05-2004, 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by flashfire

To every newer hip-hop or rb song there is a classic being ripped off

Its not just hip hop or r&b its the whole musical world . Only couple guys really start something from scratch . If a hit was successfull in the 70s then its still gonna be succesfull now if you market it right . Right now hip hop is the best marketing . Dre and eminem are getting sued all the time for sample . Same for p diddy.

Strife · 01-05-2004, 01:43 AM

who cares...who doesn't sample these days?

Doctor Dre · 01-05-2004, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by liquidmoe
There is still some new and interesting shit out there, Dizee Rascal in England has some weird fucked up rap that I definitely never heard in the states.

Yea that guy is really starting to get talked about . I seen his clip once at first when it went out and I was like WOAH . My friend started saying he was a fucking small rapper and wed never hear about him anymore ... now hes big as fuck in UK.

aflex · 01-05-2004, 01:44 AM

doctor dre, can you agree that the whole alicia keys phenom is flawed now that you've heard this? i'm big into hiphop so sampling is no big deal, but i thought her music was original.. fooled me.

Holly · 01-05-2004, 01:45 AM

She's gay. And no, I'm not being a smartass. I think I read that all her people are having a stroke trying to keep it covered up.

budz · 01-05-2004, 01:48 AM

I liked her first song better anyways

The Truth Hurts · 01-05-2004, 02:14 AM

fallin' wasn't overly original either.

dougeetx · 01-05-2004, 02:18 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
black people call this 'sampling'

White people call it sampling to, Vanilla Ice!

BSleazy · 01-05-2004, 02:25 AM

i was waiting for a black dude to say something like that

Doctor Dre · 01-05-2004, 02:27 AM

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Originally posted by aflex
doctor dre, can you agree that the whole alicia keys phenom is flawed now that you've heard this? i'm big into hiphop so sampling is no big deal, but i thought her music was original.. fooled me.

I dunno I never liked her or found her original ... and off course shes sampling. Everybody does

The Truth Hurts · 01-05-2004, 02:29 AM

would Alicia Keys ripping James Brown off in Fallin' be considered a balck on black crime...

?

Yakuza · 01-05-2004, 02:58 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre

Eminem stole whole songs from Led Zeppelin and mixed others . All rap songs are just sample nowdays from old tracks . Music became masturbation and nothing new is beeing created . We just dont know because we dunno shit about music anymore.

agree. all rap songs aren't original.

69pornlinks · 01-05-2004, 03:11 AM

If i'm not mistaken kanye west produce this track for her

liquidmoe · 01-05-2004, 03:18 AM

If thats the case, Kanye takes alot of old school stuff but does some nice remixes of it.

lock · 01-05-2004, 03:20 AM

Every musician that has ever tried to write a song has accidently semi rewrote another song. It may take a friend to say hey that sounds like the eagles or what ever before they realise they ripped off same cords or riff. Try write a new riff today that hasnt been already recorded or stream a few cords together your probably playing someone elses song.

SexxxyChat-T · 01-05-2004, 03:21 AM

I thought Alicia Keys whole thing was that she was inspired by classic R&B and modern hip hop, and was a classically trained pianist?

Thats exactly what I am hearing.

Are you also going to point out that in "Piano and I" that she ripped off Beethoven's "Moonlight Sonata"?

She has original songs, and sampled songs... doesn't take anything away from her talent.

Vitasoy · 01-05-2004, 03:27 AM

oh well, I'll still listen to her

The Truth Hurts · 01-05-2004, 03:37 AM

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Originally posted by SexxxyChat-T

Are you also going to point out that in "Piano and I" that she ripped off Beethoven's "Moonlight Sonata"?

I've heard the same exact thing about Fallin'.. that it's a rip of moonlight sonata... but....

listen to "It's a Man's, Man's World" by James Brown....

see if it sounds familiar.

Arousal Design · 01-05-2004, 04:09 AM

sampling is nothing new. i'd say 80% of new songs you hear are derivatives or directly sampled from another song.

who cares.

the neptunes don't sample much though.

KraZ · 01-05-2004, 05:44 AM

It doesn't make any difference to me - I like her and I like her songs (somewhat less I admit).

Danny_C · 01-05-2004, 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
black people call this 'sampling'

Interesting. When white people use a "sampler", they also call it "sampling". Good job, rooster, you've found yet another similarity between the races.

beemk · 01-05-2004, 09:29 AM

remember when coolio won an award for gangsters paradise and he jacked it from stevie wonder?

TheEnforcer · 01-05-2004, 09:35 AM

Do you have any idea of how much music is recycled these days? Sheeseh, gripe about something that has legs why don't ya!

bopha · 01-05-2004, 10:06 AM

Sampling sucks. Couldn't figure out why everyone loved that Emenim song until you realize you've had 20 plus years of hearing the melody from Aerosmith.

Cheating!

Just to add to the stupidity: I recall an interview with the rap chick (I'm not recalling her name) who sang with Sting on an awards show. It's the song about Biggie Smalls that sampled "Every breath you take" Sting showed up to sing with her and she told the press she didn't know who he was. She thought he was some hired singer. She didn't know he wrote the song.

I'd love to see someone like BigWillie Style come up with a new hit that didn't involve someone elses intellectual property.

And Fanilla Ice totally stole that piece. It wasn't sampled. It was copied. There's like one note difference.

Ross · 01-05-2004, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by aflex
yeah rooster, but supposedly shes a musical genius.. i held her musical talents in high regard..

HAHA then life isn't worth shit anymore.......

Strife · 01-05-2004, 10:45 AM

I don't see why anyone would have a problem with her sampling unless she has stated that she never sampled which I doubt she has .

pradaboy · 01-05-2004, 10:59 AM

yeh sampling is no crime... I don't like her music anywayz

DrGuile · 01-05-2004, 11:08 AM

There is a lot of original music out there.

Its just not being force fed to you like all this crap. you actually have to look for it.

I have news for you, wether you listen to Justin Timberlake or Eminem or Alicia Keys, you are listening to the same music:

Commercial Pop.

01-05-2004, 01:20 AM	#1
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aflex Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New Jersey - adaptweb at gmail.com Posts: 3,127	i really feel ripped off because i respected her alot as a talent.. she still has great talent but not as much as i thought now after hearing this.. ok here's my evidence.. it comes from a Single from 1966 by a Soul group called "The Main Ingredient" the song in question is their song "Let Me Prove My Love To You".. now if you're familiar with Alicia Keys hit song "You Dont Know My Name", you wont have to download the mp3 im posting of it.. but help yourself anyway.. please listen to the song from 1966 then Alicia Keys' song. 1966 - The Main Ingredient - Let Me Prove My Love To You 2003 - Alicia Keys - You Dont Know My Name post your thoughts __________________ self made mothafucka. buying premium domains & developed sites with revenue/traffic -> adaptweb at gmail.com

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aflex Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New Jersey - adaptweb at gmail.com Posts: 3,127	its the combination of singing, piano, musical style, and soulful style that made her seem so great in terms of music.. track 3 on her album is also a Gladys Knighht song "if i was your woman" __________________ self made mothafucka. buying premium domains & developed sites with revenue/traffic -> adaptweb at gmail.com

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bopha Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,882	Sampling sucks. Couldn't figure out why everyone loved that Emenim song until you realize you've had 20 plus years of hearing the melody from Aerosmith. Cheating! Just to add to the stupidity: I recall an interview with the rap chick (I'm not recalling her name) who sang with Sting on an awards show. It's the song about Biggie Smalls that sampled "Every breath you take" Sting showed up to sing with her and she told the press she didn't know who he was. She thought he was some hired singer. She didn't know he wrote the song. I'd love to see someone like BigWillie Style come up with a new hit that didn't involve someone elses intellectual property. And Fanilla Ice totally stole that piece. It wasn't sampled. It was copied. There's like one note difference.

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01-05-2004, 10:59 AM	#49
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01-05-2004, 11:08 AM	#50
DrGuile Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,025	There is a lot of original music out there. Its just not being force fed to you like all this crap. you actually have to look for it. I have news for you, wether you listen to Justin Timberlake or Eminem or Alicia Keys, you are listening to the same music: Commercial Pop. __________________ LiveBucks / Privatefeeds - Giving you money since 1999 Up to 50% Commission! 25% Webmaster Referal Powered by Gamma