POV shooters, do you shoot this type?

[uptheyingyang]

OK, you guys. While most of you are playing I'm working on a holiday.

And today it's some really tedious shit.

Because I'm a little bit fussy I'm discarding about 85% of the POV content I recently bought. Can't use it. Won't put it on my sites, I never should have bought it. My mistake.

And it's not going in the shit can for tech reasons.

Look, the whole point of POV is that you are trying to convey an intimate "relationship" fantasy to the surfer. And the idea is that there is some "spark" between the POV shooter and the girl.

And that's the problem.

I'm getting the idea that some so-called content producers never got laid in high school so they run out and buy a DV cam and now they are in the business of getting blowjobs and selling content.

Only one problem, you guys don't have a way with women, you don't know how to talk to a girl, and you can tell in every facial that SHE REALLY DOESN"T WANT TO BE THERE. And the result is VERY unerotic. I've never seen so many cum-dodgers in my life.

So I will ask. Are there any POV content shooters out there who do have a way with women? So at least there is some sort of spark, dare I say, the illusion of affection when you're blasting a load in her face?

I'll give you guys a clue, most hot girls will SWALLOW your load with gusto IF YOU CAN FUCKING TALK TO THEM RIGHT!

The last great guy that did this with Adam Glasser (aka Seymore Butts)---at least in his POV you had the idea that maybe the girls liked him. And that's why his work is so fucking good.

Who shoots this way now, and sells content? Spam me if you do.

Thanks.

[Chris]

contact [email protected] they might be able to do something I dont know if they do POV porn but i know her husband is the stunt cock and does the video and pictures so i guess ... it is ? i dunno ask em

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I am wondering if there is any POV from girls perspective!

Now that would be a new niche! Hummm.
Right about now I am sure a few people are going to jump off there desk and run to the production room when finishing this sentence

There is some great POV shooters out there gimme message I will mention a few companies i think are good
ICQ: 78943384

[ShamusOColon]

Mike John is the best at the POV. Maybe you can by some of his stuff at red light district

[Peter Romero]

Mine is not for sale. Of course the POV Porn Guy should definetely have some finesse, that's the whole thing about POV that makes it jerkable. ICQ me & lemme know who sold it to you & I may be able to refer you to someone who does good POV shoots. Besides me of course...

www.povporn.com - they are all smiling!!!

[biglou]

I think you may be missing the point of POV porn... the man is irrelevant, the whole appeal is that, if properly done, the viewer should be able to imagine themselves as the man.

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by biglou
I think you may be missing the point of POV porn... the man is irrelevant, the whole appeal is that, if properly done, the viewer should be able to imagine themselves as the man.

I agree... but in order for the girl to have fun, and me too... is to get her into it. The only way I know to do that is to use my personality & stay outta the shot as much as posible.

[Peter Romero]

Seymore Butts is good looking with a great personality.

[VirtuMike]

Got Jizz?

[Dugmor]

This is all Point of View

Tell me what you think !

[Mutt]

nobody listens to me but the secret of great porn is the male talent - he pulls the great performance out of the girl - and it sure does help if the guy has some charisma and the girl is into him, or at least not repulsed. Seymore had that going for him - u want Seymore quality content call him and see how much he charges you.

All that said there are many girls who are cum dodgers and many others for whom working in porn is nothing but a paycheck - it wouldn't matter if you were Brad Pitt or whoever - the girl is going to do a lame scene.

[uptheyingyang]

Originally posted by POV Porn guy
Mine is not for sale. Of course the POV Porn Guy should definetely have some finesse, that's the whole thing about POV that makes it jerkable. ICQ me & lemme know who sold it to you & I may be able to refer you to someone who does good POV shoots. Besides me of course...

www.povporn.com - they are all smiling!!!

yes, it seems the guys that are really good do not sell content.

i understand that.

just wish there was a content producer where you could buy reality stuff that was of the tech quality of blacksonblondes, etc. that had an artsy reality edge to it, like cinema verite' porn. (i'll miss alex deRenzy aka rex borsky till i die)

some of the best POV is made by people that look like they are in love (wifeysworld, cumswallowwife, etc.).

i know it's a tough formula if you've only known the chick for 90 minutes, but you can still get a girl hot by talking to her right.

if you make the girl feel like it's a sordid experience, and treat her like a crack whore (even if she is) the emotional response for the surfer is not there, and the product does not convert, and it does not do good business.

the challenge to the POV producer is to make the girl think that she is a seductress, that she is the most beautiful, exciting female in the world, it's mostly a head trip.

the guys that can do that create some great content.

[Catalinas]

I agree with you though we don't shoot content for sale. I'm always saying to anybody that'll listen that the guy should be in the background so the surfer can get off on the fantasy. Or at least not say really lame lines like "so, you like sex?" I hear that too much. For just once I want the girl to say something like "No, I just suck cock for money. And I thinking of going lez if this is the best you boys can do."

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by uptheyingyang
yes, it seems the guys that are really good do not sell content.

the challenge to the POV producer is to make the girl think that she is a seductress, that she is the most beautiful, exciting female in the world, it's mostly a head trip.

the guys that can do that create some great content.

If you are really good at something, you should realize your worth, and charge for it accordingly. The market is flooded with cheap crap, you get what you pay for. Which is the exact reason that I only shoot for myself & custom content for a select few clients - because good work takes: patience, good equipment, talent, time & money.

[Mutt]

that depends - California Pimp/Netvideogirls is a POV site and it's important that he is very much part of the scene - he has the relationship with his fans. You are talking about another kind of POV where the intention is that the POV is the viewer's POV, viewer can imagine that it is his cock and she is looking up into his eyes. In that kind of POV the shooter shouldn't be yakking too much, if at all.

[Vittorio]

Just check out my signature. I produce and sell the kind of content you are looking for...

Check out the GFY testimonial page on my site too for comments on my content and service...

Running a GREAT special deal right now...

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by Vittorio
Just check out my signature. I produce and sell the kind of content you are looking for...

Check out the GFY testimonial page on my site too for comments on my content and service...

Running a GREAT special deal right now...

I'd have to say that Vitorio is one of the best POV shooters.

[uptheyingyang]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by POV Porn guy
[B]

"The market is flooded with cheap crap, you get what you pay for. "


agreed.


i will say this.

there is a huge opportunity for a shooter with some technical and artistic sense, who owns good equipment, and is internet saavy to be in the content business.

the business is bloated with "look-a-like" content. when i see something original, and hot, and beautifully done, i just about fall out of my chair. i love good smut.

i'm talking about an artist, who is also a ladie's man, who lives in a place with access to inexpensive models, like eastern europe, or brazil, or manila, who is about 25 years old, in shape, with a great dick, and a sense of humor.

this guy could make a fortune right now, just being a content producer.

[Peter Romero]

People with talent charge accordingly. Period. It's not about being cheap, it's about being good. They are 2 seperate things thast you just keep mashing into one. They are diferent - let it go - and choose.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Somebody is fishing today...

The best POV shooters have posted, if ya want content buy some exclusive shoots or do it yourself.

You already seem pretty experienced IMO.

[uptheyingyang]

shortly i will look at your suggestions, i've got to finish this editing work today.

i have seen stuff that mutt puts out, and whoever he has shooting for him does a great job IMO.

i quickly glanced at some still samples dugmor put up --- yes this is the right idea, looks like the girls are having a good time.

i will look closer in the next couple days.

keep the references coming.

i really need, average or better girls who are sexy, having a great time, breathing hard and sweating, in reality lesbian or boy-girl action.

shot in a realistic setting with interesting lighting that looks appropriate for erotica (this is usually not office lighting, or a sterile studio looking lighting) a girl on her knees sucking your dick would look beautiful with side lighting, or simulated window lighting, it would model her features better.

some of you know what i mean, most of you do not.

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by uptheyingyang
would look beautiful with side lighting, or simulated window lighting, it would model her features better.

some of you know what i mean, most of you do not.

Look... an armchair pornographer giving shooting advice. Classic GFY.

I'm done with this thread.

[uptheyingyang]

Originally posted by POV Porn guy


Look... an armchair pornographer giving shooting advice. Classic GFY.

I'm done with this thread.

my purpose of the thread is that i am looking to buy a specific type of content, not slam any content producer. i know what converts for my traffic.

if someone can sell me what i need at the right price i will buy, no big deal.

[Mutt]

you're asking for alot there - all that is possible if somebody wants to provide a budget. Most adult DVD's sell less than 5,000 copies - most much less, in the 2-3,000 range - can't have Andrew Blake production values on that kind of budget.

are we talking about exclusive content or licensed content here?

If you are talking licensed content you can license some great DVDs from Redlight District and some other studios - including Mike John's POV Pervert DVDs - Mike is regarded as the best POV shooter in the business. Only problem with the Redlight content is that AdultLegal, AdultBouncer and AdultLegal have whored it out so much it loses much of its value.

[amacontent]

I am the KING of POV... second to NONE. My shit sells fucking awesome and converts even better. Sold all over the world with numerous repeat orders

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by amacontent
I am the KING of POV... second to NONE. My shit sells fucking awesome and converts even better. Sold all over the world with numerous repeat orders

On that note... I have an oven to clean.

[Brad Xtremepay]

POV Porn Guy: Kylie is mad hot... how do you find these chicks? ;)

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by Brad Xtremepay
POV Porn Guy: Kylie is mad hot... how do you find these chicks? ;)

Ask Joe, he is better than me. And everyone else for that matter.

[amacontent]

Originally posted by POV Porn guy


On that note... I have an oven to clean.

Yes I agree, ive seen it.

[amacontent]

Originally posted by POV Porn guy


Ask Joe, he is better than me. And everyone else for that matter.

Well half that statement is true, lol..
HAPPY NEW YEAR !!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Peter Romero]

I have work to do. Goodbye.

[uptheyingyang]

Originally posted by Mutt
you're asking for alot there - all that is possible if somebody wants to provide a budget. Most adult DVD's sell less than 5,000 copies - most much less, in the 2-3,000 range - can't have Andrew Blake production values on that kind of budget.

are we talking about exclusive content or licensed content here?

If you are talking licensed content you can license some great DVDs from Redlight District and some other studios - including Mike John's POV Pervert DVDs - Mike is regarded as the best POV shooter in the business. Only problem with the Redlight content is that AdultLegal, AdultBouncer and AdultLegal have whored it out so much it loses much of its value.

Mutt, i'm not talking about the expensive production values, i'm talking "cheap" production values

i'm talking about reality porn shot almost in a "documentary" style

with a 3-chip camera that works good in low light and a wide lens beautiful stuff can be shot without a lot of hardware.

we're not dealing with a set here, were dealing with a model's face, her lips, her eyes, her nipples, her ass, her belly, the way the cock enters the labia, the way the panties split the cameltoe, her mouth, etc.

this type of content does convert. you capture the most interesting and beautiful parts of the woman, editing mostly in the camera.

if the camera has wide angle lens (not a cheap adapter, but a real wide angle like canon) you can do some visually interesting stuff that really puts the surfer in the driver's seat.

i just don't see this sort of stuff shot much, and it is NOT tricky to produce, or more expensive to produce.

this is the type of content which is PERFECT for the small size window that most surfers have to look at. because you are filling that small window with a closeup of a certain interesting part of the girl, and not just the image appears better, but the sound is better, because usually the girl's face is near the camera mic.

this is want i shoot myself. and this is what i would buy.

[DrtySweeet]

Originally posted by uptheyingyang
OK, you guys. While most of you are playing I'm working on a holiday.

And today it's some really tedious shit.

Because I'm a little bit fussy I'm discarding about 85% of the POV content I recently bought. Can't use it. Won't put it on my sites, I never should have bought it. My mistake.

And it's not going in the shit can for tech reasons.

Look, the whole point of POV is that you are trying to convey an intimate "relationship" fantasy to the surfer. And the idea is that there is some "spark" between the POV shooter and the girl.

And that's the problem.

I'm getting the idea that some so-called content producers never got laid in high school so they run out and buy a DV cam and now they are in the business of getting blowjobs and selling content.

Only one problem, you guys don't have a way with women, you don't know how to talk to a girl, and you can tell in every facial that SHE REALLY DOESN"T WANT TO BE THERE. And the result is VERY unerotic. I've never seen so many cum-dodgers in my life.

So I will ask. Are there any POV content shooters out there who do have a way with women? So at least there is some sort of spark, dare I say, the illusion of affection when you're blasting a load in her face?

I'll give you guys a clue, most hot girls will SWALLOW your load with gusto IF YOU CAN FUCKING TALK TO THEM RIGHT!

The last great guy that did this with Adam Glasser (aka Seymore Butts)---at least in his POV you had the idea that maybe the girls liked him. And that's why his work is so fucking good.

Who shoots this way now, and sells content? Spam me if you do.

Thanks.

hey babe whats your icq# or yahoo id.. .. i might have what u need..

[Peter Romero]

Still... it all boils down to talent. Here's one of the girls I found and did POV without a camera - Cassidy.

[leg4]

U get more and more better after you keep doing it...

[uptheyingyang]

Originally posted by POV Porn guy
Still... it all boils down to talent. Here's one of the girls I found and did POV without a camera - Cassidy.

wow. yes, indeed.

beautiful girl. beautifully photographed.

[Jimmy Lifestyles]

Yo Mr. yingyang, I believe in what ur saying as far as a natural and real attraction between the females and the pov shooter. I shoot the content for www.suckmebitch.com and although the name of the site implies a dicked hardcore attitude towards the ladies, I dont bring that attitude when "convincing" the chickees to get naked and fornicate.

Humour and lightheartedness is my approach and it really works out for the best as the girlies look like their having a good time and are enjoying being naughty. So if you want a shooter who "has a way with women", I'm your man. I've been told numerous times that my shoots are way cool and the talent appreciates my attitude. I use the same attitude when I shoot www.swingfordollars.com . Alot of laughing, teasing, poking fun, a real natural feel to our interaction as humans. Nothing forced or over the top, to the point where the viewer loses contact with the sensuality of the fantasy.

As far as shooting, I do have a degree in Fine Art( I thought you needed one to shoot porn, mommy is proud =) And have a strong grasp on angles and a constant awareness that there is a home viewer that needs to be considered . Crafty and creative mixed with kinky and juicy. If you'd like to contact me I'm involved with Falconfoto. I'm not in the office now so I dont have my ICQ available but you can email me at [email protected]. If ur not interested, good luck in finding your man, just thought i'd throw my hat into the ring. Have a good one. J-Li

[Sinicle77]

Originally posted by DrtySweeet




hey babe whats your icq# or yahoo id.. .. i might have what u need..

i guess maybe he doesnt have yahoo or icq..

[DrtySweeet]

guess not. then i guess i dont have what he needs either.
thppppppt

[uptheyingyang]

Originally posted by Sinicle77


i guess maybe he doesnt have yahoo or icq..

not on icq much, but my new icq # is 216063489.

i'll be looking at all your leads in the next couple days.

thanks, all of you!

[uptheyingyang]

Originally posted by Jimmy Lifestyles
Yo Mr. yingyang, I believe in what ur saying as far as a natural and real attraction between the females and the pov shooter. I shoot the content for www.suckmebitch.com and although the name of the site implies a dicked hardcore attitude towards the ladies, I dont bring that attitude when "convincing" the chickees to get naked and fornicate.

Humour and lightheartedness is my approach and it really works out for the best as the girlies look like their having a good time and are enjoying being naughty. So if you want a shooter who "has a way with women", I'm your man. I've been told numerous times that my shoots are way cool and the talent appreciates my attitude. I use the same attitude when I shoot www.swingfordollars.com . Alot of laughing, teasing, poking fun, a real natural feel to our interaction as humans. Nothing forced or over the top, to the point where the viewer loses contact with the sensuality of the fantasy.

As far as shooting, I do have a degree in Fine Art( I thought you needed one to shoot porn, mommy is proud =) And have a strong grasp on angles and a constant awareness that there is a home viewer that needs to be considered . Crafty and creative mixed with kinky and juicy. If you'd like to contact me I'm involved with Falconfoto. I'm not in the office now so I dont have my ICQ available but you can email me at [email protected]. If ur not interested, good luck in finding your man, just thought i'd throw my hat into the ring. Have a good one. J-Li

did you shoot the still samples i see on <suckmebitch> ?

do you sell content, pls icq me if you do. 216063489

thanks!

[davecummings]

MY "Knee Pad Nymphos" series is mostly (but not totally) POV; Now up to Vol 7, it's received three AVN Awards Nominations since I've been doing it---Vol 5 is up for "Best Oral-Themed Feature" of 2003; each release has 10 scenes, with at least 3-4 including fucking in addition to the blowjobs, and at least one "creampie".

I'm the producer/director AND the cameraman AND the "wood" for most of the scenes---though shooting POV, my use of mirrors and three tripod cameras allows for lots of different angles as well as POV.

Contact jeff AT sunupmedia DOT com to get info about his www.ademia.com streaming content. Jeff owns Sun Up Media and is active in the issue with acacia.

Also, at next week's Internext, www.videosecrets.com is launching a streaming console of my "Knee Pad Nymphos"/ "Sex Fun"/"Sugardaddy" video content. Contact is tina AT vsmedia DOT com. I'll be at the Video Secrets both much of next Wednesday--stop by and say hello, and meet Tina (and Greg, a champion in the fight with acacia).

Box covers for the streams are viewable under the link to "Filmography" at my site; and, some sample streams are also at the link to "Video".

Happy 2004 everyone!!!!!!!

Dave
www.davecummings.com

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by Jimmy Lifestyles
Yo Mr. yingyang, I believe in what ur saying as far as a natural and real attraction between the females and the pov shooter. I shoot the content for www.suckmebitch.com and although the name of the site implies a dicked hardcore attitude towards the ladies, I dont bring that attitude when "convincing" the chickees to get naked and fornicate.

Humour and lightheartedness is my approach and it really works out for the best as the girlies look like their having a good time and are enjoying being naughty. So if you want a shooter who "has a way with women", I'm your man. I've been told numerous times that my shoots are way cool and the talent appreciates my attitude. I use the same attitude when I shoot www.swingfordollars.com . Alot of laughing, teasing, poking fun, a real natural feel to our interaction as humans. Nothing forced or over the top, to the point where the viewer loses contact with the sensuality of the fantasy.

As far as shooting, I do have a degree in Fine Art( I thought you needed one to shoot porn, mommy is proud =) And have a strong grasp on angles and a constant awareness that there is a home viewer that needs to be considered . Crafty and creative mixed with kinky and juicy. If you'd like to contact me I'm involved with Falconfoto. I'm not in the office now so I dont have my ICQ available but you can email me at [email protected]. If ur not interested, good luck in finding your man, just thought i'd throw my hat into the ring. Have a good one. J-Li

Great work. Like your style.

[Jimmy Lifestyles]

Originally posted by uptheyingyang



did you shoot the still samples i see on <suckmebitch> ?

do you sell content, pls icq me if you do. 216063489

thanks!

Yes sir. I shot all the content on those sites. If you played the trailers on www.suckmebitch.com and www.swingfordollars.com , then you can get a feel for what i do as well. I won't be able to ICQ you today but i will tommorrow when i get into the office. As far as selling content, that is a yes. I don't have pre-existing pov content, i shoot for the specifics of each client. Are you looking for custom exclusive shoots and content? I can do that for a good rate. Lemme know. We'll talk. J-Li

[Jimmy Lifestyles]

Originally posted by POV Porn guy


Great work. Like your style.

why thank you great one. I appreciate it.

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by Jimmy Lifestyles



why thank you great one. I appreciate it.

Aw shucks... can I have your women now? Please?

"Dude... what? It's ART! What are you lookin at? It's a performance art peice..." Classic lines from your site. The nun punching pupet was over the top.

[Jimmy Lifestyles]

Originally posted by POV Porn guy


Aw shucks... can I have your women now? Please?

"Dude... what? It's ART! What are you lookin at? It's a performance art peice..." Classic lines from your site. The nun punching pupet was over the top.

Yes That "piece" turned out real nice. Lisa Marie was cleansed of her demons. I forgot to add puppetier to my shooting resume as well as my barbie doll porn training video, thanks for reminding me.

And as far as having my women, based on your banner, you've already have 2 of them with Fallon and Ramona . (But then again, who hasn't had Fallon) Let's make some trades!

[Peter Romero]

ICQ me Jimmy Lifestyles...

[xanderxxx]

I agree..POV porn is designed for the viewer. As far as i'm concerned, the man shouldn't even talk. the girl should always be talking, sucking and fucking to the camera as if its the viewer.

[xanderxxx]

i shoot pov porn. i don't have any for sale, but if you need assistance let me know. there is a key secret in getting what you want from the girls. fortunately i fould out early in production and it's helped extremely in getting pov perfection!