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basschick · 12-30-2003, 12:00 PM

for paysite owners - do you give your members full length videos as well as clips? do more guys watch the clips or the full length vids?

how many sizes of clips do you offer, and in what formats? we're doing wmv and mpg in two sizes currently.

triumph · 12-30-2003, 12:02 PM

break it down into 5 minute clips, it saves on bandwitdh, and some members hate to download the whole video.

BV · 12-30-2003, 12:12 PM

I have a full length clip and also split that up into 3-5 minute clips

and then render all of the above into 3 different speeds/size wmv's

500KBS for fast dsl/cable/
250KBS for slower dsl
and a 15fps for the dialups

basschick · 12-30-2003, 12:14 PM

i already have two sizes up in wmv and mgp. i am wondering whether to add full length or 15 minute clips as well.

Reak · 12-30-2003, 12:16 PM

we cut the movies in 5 or 10 mb per movie, depend on howmuch mb the movie is total.

Why ? It saves you BW

basschick · 12-30-2003, 01:00 PM

anyone else? what lengths (or sizes) of vids do you offer, and which are watched the most?

thanks!

- AFN - · 12-30-2003, 04:27 PM

bite sized clips are better.... more viral if you know what I mean.

basschick · 12-30-2003, 04:30 PM

er... actually i don't know what you mean :-/

421Fill · 12-30-2003, 04:31 PM

we offer 10mb clips in MPEG and then full length in WMV.

basschick · 12-30-2003, 04:38 PM

thanks, turbo. do you know which the members watch more - the clips or full length?

Helix · 12-30-2003, 04:39 PM

we offer 1 min clips ( for the dial up crowd )
and full length
mpg format

mahoney · 12-30-2003, 04:39 PM

clips, about 5-7 mins each

BV · 12-30-2003, 04:41 PM

if you want to make everyone happy you need both

there is no other answer

basschick · 12-30-2003, 04:43 PM

well, that's what i think, but i still wonder if there are more members watching clips or full length vids... i'm wondering which is preferred.

421Fill · 12-30-2003, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
thanks, turbo. do you know which the members watch more - the clips or full length?

I don't know the answer to that off hand, but instinctively, I'd say that it's probaly about 50/50.

J-Reel · 12-30-2003, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BV
if you want to make everyone happy you need both

there is no other answer

Yep, Gotta have both. Everybody wants options.

We encode our clips (3 - 5 min) in quicktime. The full length version is encoded in WMV. After a couple months we release the full length in mpeg so it can be downloaded.

Gotta keep the members happy

basschick · 12-30-2003, 10:25 PM

anyone else?

Zappu · 12-31-2003, 01:01 AM

As far as my customers told me, it's a real good seller for memberships if you have full length videos of 90 minutes available.

MRengineer · 12-31-2003, 03:05 AM

We cut all clips. Main reason is protecting from teleport and all the same sheet .

And some other reasons.

wmv format

99bb · 12-31-2003, 03:21 AM

We either offer the whole movie, which can be anything from 20 to 40 minutes long, or cut it into 10 minute clips.
Our format is wmv and is in multiple formats 1500, 1000 and 300 Kbps as a download and 300 and 100 Kbps for streaming . We are catering for the broadband user who is seeking downloadable content. Therefore they tend to use the streaming to get an idea of the movie before downloading the whole movie in its largest format.

Some of our exclusive content is protected with DRM, but this has been a headache since its inception !!!!!!!

Hope the info helps

Reak · 12-31-2003, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J-Reel

Yep, Gotta have both. Everybody wants options.

We encode our clips (3 - 5 min) in quicktime. The full length version is encoded in WMV. After a couple months we release the full length in mpeg so it can be downloaded.

Gotta keep the members happy

Good point. I think we need to think about this too

Pornwolf · 12-31-2003, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 99bb
We either offer the whole movie, which can be anything from 20 to 40 minutes long, or cut it into 10 minute clips.
Our format is wmv and is in multiple formats 1500, 1000 and 300 Kbps as a download and 300 and 100 Kbps for streaming . We are catering for the broadband user who is seeking downloadable content. Therefore they tend to use the streaming to get an idea of the movie before downloading the whole movie in its largest format.

Why has DRM been such a headache?
Some of our exclusive content is protected with DRM, but this has been a headache since its inception !!!!!!!

Hope the info helps

Why has DRM been such a headache?

99bb · 12-31-2003, 03:35 AM

Hey Pornwolf,

We have been using a wmv DRM solution but it does not work on all Media Players. It only works with Media Player 9. Error messages appear at the members end after the download and rather than checking our FAQ page for advice, they email support. And when you have the number of members we have, it becomes a "headache"

Windows Media Player on the Mac isn't supported either !!!!

Hope it helps

12-30-2003, 12:00 PM	#1
basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	paysite video question for paysite owners - do you give your members full length videos as well as clips? do more guys watch the clips or the full length vids? how many sizes of clips do you offer, and in what formats? we're doing wmv and mpg in two sizes currently. __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

12-30-2003, 12:14 PM	#4
basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	i already have two sizes up in wmv and mgp. i am wondering whether to add full length or 15 minute clips as well. __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

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basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	anyone else? what lengths (or sizes) of vids do you offer, and which are watched the most? thanks! __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

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12-30-2003, 12:02 PM	#2
triumph Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,433	break it down into 5 minute clips, it saves on bandwitdh, and some members hate to download the whole video.

12-30-2003, 12:12 PM	#3
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	I have a full length clip and also split that up into 3-5 minute clips and then render all of the above into 3 different speeds/size wmv's 500KBS for fast dsl/cable/ 250KBS for slower dsl and a 15fps for the dialups

12-30-2003, 12:16 PM	#5
Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	we cut the movies in 5 or 10 mb per movie, depend on howmuch mb the movie is total. Why ? It saves you BW

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421Fill Super Mario Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Swenson's Avatar Posts: 19,547	we offer 10mb clips in MPEG and then full length in WMV. __________________ RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!

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basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	thanks, turbo. do you know which the members watch more - the clips or full length? __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

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12-30-2003, 04:39 PM	#12
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12-30-2003, 04:41 PM	#13
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	if you want to make everyone happy you need both there is no other answer

12-30-2003, 04:43 PM	#14
basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	well, that's what i think, but i still wonder if there are more members watching clips or full length vids... i'm wondering which is preferred. __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

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12-31-2003, 01:01 AM	#18
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12-31-2003, 03:21 AM	#20
99bb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 178	We either offer the whole movie, which can be anything from 20 to 40 minutes long, or cut it into 10 minute clips. Our format is wmv and is in multiple formats 1500, 1000 and 300 Kbps as a download and 300 and 100 Kbps for streaming . We are catering for the broadband user who is seeking downloadable content. Therefore they tend to use the streaming to get an idea of the movie before downloading the whole movie in its largest format. Some of our exclusive content is protected with DRM, but this has been a headache since its inception !!!!!!! Hope the info helps __________________ Broadband Movie Site

12-31-2003, 03:35 AM	#23
99bb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 178	Hey Pornwolf, We have been using a wmv DRM solution but it does not work on all Media Players. It only works with Media Player 9. Error messages appear at the members end after the download and rather than checking our FAQ page for advice, they email support. And when you have the number of members we have, it becomes a "headache" Windows Media Player on the Mac isn't supported either !!!! Hope it helps __________________ Broadband Movie Site