Jay's New Linklist - GoFuckYourself.com

xxxjay · 12-22-2003, 02:15 PM

Since, November 2001, when I started Jays XXX Links it has become a very popular. Jays has grown from a mere 5,000 visitors a day, around this time last year, to an average 65,000-80,000 visitors a day now. I do not use traffic trading scripts or blind linking ? it?s 99% SE traffic and bookmarks. I have decided to take what I have learned and start a second linklist, this time it will list exclusively movie and video content.

Here it is:

Jay?s XXX Porn Movies Links
http://www.xxxpornmovielinks.com/

(Yeah, I know ? it looks just looks my other site ? this is a combination of smart branding, sheer laziness, shameless duplication of success, and lack of graphic design skill. I am still tweaking the site, so withhold any final judgment.)

I figure with more and more people going to broadband and DSL connections, an all movie linklist is the next logical step.

I have populated it with a bunch of stuff to get it started. I am now accepting submissions. All submissions that are approved will be given a listing for a full year, as opposed to the 180 day standard listings. Remember, this is not a TGP nor is it a site that links pictures ? this is a linklist for movies. I also would like to see my recips listed with the recips of the other big linklists ? call me stuck up, but that the way I want it. As many of you know, I concentrate on search engine traffic, so having your sites listed here is a great way for you to get spidered, and eventually get a few of your own SE hits. I?m also going to be running a lot of my own traffic through.

I already have a decent amount of links pointed into this site and it?s already indexed:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...vielinks.com%2F

I?m also looking to trade with other links lists that have relevant content.

Email me at [email protected] if you have any questions.

If you are a free site builder ? gimmie some submissions!

PS ? there will be a top referrers list once I get the script plugged in.
Let me know what you think.

MarcWomack · 12-22-2003, 02:21 PM

Congrats Jay. Looks like another winner.

Jay's Search Engine Kung Fu is strong. He's managed to help us get CJ and our other free sites up in the rankings and the traffic he sends over to CJBucks.com is top notch. You da man!

ATL_Ryan · 12-22-2003, 02:22 PM

Looks great Jay. You got mad SE skillz. Best of luck with the new site.

jerseygirls · 12-22-2003, 02:26 PM

Hey Jay,

Best of luck on the new site. I'll be submitting some galleries soon to grab some of that awsome SE traffic of yours :-)

How many movies per submission are required to get listed?

xxxjay · 12-22-2003, 02:29 PM

I'm going with 10 per site right now. I think that is reasonable.

Officer · 12-22-2003, 02:30 PM

Sounds like a good idea to me, I'll get links to my movie sites over there asap! I have had some good traffic come in from your original links list

xxxjay · 12-22-2003, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by Officer
Sounds like a good idea to me, I'll get links to my movie sites over there asap! I have had some good traffic come in from your original links list

Yeah man - I'm really looking for some of you people who build movie sites to submit to me. I know every major linklist has a movie category and it's usually the most popular one. I've just gone and broken it down by niche.

I know there a lot of Video TGPs already. With a links list you will get higher quality traffic over a longer period of time - hence more bang for your bandwidth.

I've found that doing something like this is one of the best ways to make a sale:

http://www.xxxpornmovielinks.com/adu...n_movie_5.html

The wmv hahahahaha in a page kicks ass.

Trax · 12-22-2003, 02:53 PM

looks good as always dude

gornyhuy · 12-22-2003, 02:59 PM

Nice site Jay! Good luck with the SE Mojo on this one, let us know if it is easier the second time around.

I'll be hitting you up about some nice text link trades soon...

juicyjew · 12-22-2003, 03:07 PM

So this is why you didn't go out drinking with us this weekend? Because you were "working"?

Oh, well, I guess I can understand. Good luck with the new site, Jay!

xxxjay · 12-22-2003, 03:13 PM

gornyhuy, Trax - I see you guys in the queue for jays-xxx-links once in a while. build some movie sites! - i am extending the expiration to a year for all of the submissions i get in the first month or so

it isn't said often, but i'll say it here - on almost all major linklists - your link expires after 180 days

oh yeah - and ther is no easter bunny too

xxxjay · 12-22-2003, 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by juicyjew
So this is why you didn't go out drinking with us this weekend? Because you were "working"?

Oh, well, I guess I can understand. Good luck with the new site, Jay!

Ok- you got me. Guilty as charged.

WiredGuy · 12-22-2003, 03:19 PM

Congrats Jay, keep up the great work

WG

xxxjay · 12-22-2003, 03:29 PM

WiredGuy - you gonna be in Vegas? I'd love to "talk shop" with you sometime.

WiredGuy · 12-22-2003, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
WiredGuy - you gonna be in Vegas? I'd love to "talk shop" with you sometime.

Yup, I'll be there 4-8. Badge name will say Charles and NetMgt as the company. Look for me or I'll try to find you. Would love to hear how Florida update affected you...

WG

angelsofporn · 12-22-2003, 03:39 PM

good deal jay...thanks for the sales as always

xxxjay · 12-22-2003, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy

Yup, I'll be there 4-8. Badge name will say Charles and NetMgt as the company. Look for me or I'll try to find you. Would love to hear how Florida update affected you...

WG

Excellent, I'll be out there the same days, I know Gary from NetMgt pretty well, so it should be hard to find one another. I usually hang around the CJ crew.

I know (well, I think I know) exactly what happened with the Florida update, but rather than discuss that one tthe boards - we can get into that in Vegas.

SpacemanSpiff · 12-22-2003, 03:41 PM

Nice dude.

I'll have to dust off the old mpeg editor and make some movie sites. Get me some of that killer SE traffic you send.

WiredGuy · 12-22-2003, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
Excellent, I'll be out there the same days, I know Gary from NetMgt pretty well, so it should be hard to find one another. I usually hang around the CJ crew.

I know (well, I think I know) exactly what happened with the Florida update, but rather than discuss that one tthe boards - we can get into that in Vegas.

Likewise, I got my speculations and would be much easier to discuss in person. I usually hang around the TCG crew so I should be easy to find as well

WG

Reak · 12-22-2003, 03:46 PM

Congrats Jay ! You got some hot SE Skillz for sure. Goodluck with the site, i hope it will be as big as you 1st linklist by next year

Goodluck bro

Phoenix · 12-22-2003, 03:48 PM

nice stuff.

Good luck with your next venture

xxxjay · 12-22-2003, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy

Likewise, I got my speculations and would be much easier to discuss in person. I usually hang around the TCG crew so I should be easy to find as well

WG

It's a plan then. My cell # is (404) 423-7791

Anyone who is out in Vegas and wants to find me can use that really.

Or you can just go to the Cheetah - where I will be drunk in a corner somewhere.

juicyjew · 12-22-2003, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
Or you can just go to the Cheetah - where I will be drunk in a corner somewhere.

Truer words have never been spoken.

WiredGuy · 12-22-2003, 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
It's a plan then. My cell # is (404) 423-7791

Anyone who is out in Vegas and wants to find me can use that really.

Or you can just go to the Cheetah - where I will be drunk in a corner somewhere.

Crazy Horse Too for me

WG

xxxjay · 12-22-2003, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy

Crazy Horse Too for me
WG

I like that place too - I the Cheetha kills it though. I puked on three stripprs there once.

WiredGuy · 12-22-2003, 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
I like that place too - I the Cheetha kills it though. I puked on three stripprs there once.

I don't think I've been to Cheetah's yet, gonna have to try it

WG

xxxjay · 12-22-2003, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy

I don't think I've been to Cheetah's yet, gonna have to try it
WG

OK -- fuck talking about google

If we don't do one other thing in Vegas - allow me to drag you over to Cheetah's. I've been to more than my share of titty bars and Cheetah's is in the top 3 of all time.

That's saying a lot.

CNN · 12-22-2003, 05:36 PM

very nice buddy

xxxjay · 12-22-2003, 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by ConvertFamily[CNN]
very nice buddy

Thanks man.

WiredGuy · 12-22-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
OK -- fuck talking about google If we don't do one other thing in Vegas - allow me to drag you over to Cheetah's. I've been to more than my share of titty bars and Cheetah's is in the top 3 of all time.

That's saying a lot.

LOL, sounds like a great plan to me

We can talk all about Google while getting lapdances!

WG

mb · 12-22-2003, 06:51 PM

Hell yeah, Jay! Great idea that I'm sure will do well for you!

It's always nice to see familiar company in the top 5 at google for my keywords ;-)

we need to hook up some category trades.

hopefully I'll run into you in vegas

marc
hoes.com

xxxjay · 12-22-2003, 07:18 PM

Wiredguy - We don't want to scare them away. We need to say that we a famous rappers.

Marc - That's awesome that you'll be out there. Hoes.com is the greatest domain name ever...OK, I'll give you 20 bucks for, and that's my final offer.

Seriously, my cell # is (404)423-7791, I'll be staying at the Venitian, you can email me at [email protected], or you can find me hemoraging cash at Cheetah's. I'd love to have the chance talk with you.

I might even get some business done on this trip...we'll see - LOL.

WiredGuy · 12-22-2003, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
Wiredguy - We don't want to scare them away. We need to say that we a famous rappers.

I like it, see you there

WG

Bulldog-Johnnie · 12-23-2003, 06:54 AM

Way to go Jay- There's no question you are the SE Pimp of the century.

johnbosh · 12-23-2003, 06:56 AM

wow dindt knew you could get that much se traffic

Trax · 12-23-2003, 06:59 AM

jay drop me a line on icq

marc
would be cool if you could do the same: 59 101 924

Thanks a lot guys

Trax · 12-23-2003, 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by johnbosh
wow dindt knew you could get that much se traffic

hehe
jay and mb will agree when i say that it doesnt stop there

12-23-2003, 09:14 AM

Looks sweet, best of luck with it ;)

xxxjay · 12-23-2003, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by johnbosh
wow dindt knew you could get that much se traffic

I don't get that many SE hits a day, a lot of that traffic is bookmarkers. One thing I have realized is that, it's one thing to be found on the SEs (type XXX {just about anything} and you are likely to see me up there), but if you build something cool that people will come back to - that is just as important. It pays off too.

WiredGuy · 12-23-2003, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
I don't get that many SE hits a day, a lot of that traffic is bookmarkers. One thing I have realized is that, it's one thing to be found on the SEs (type XXX {just about anything} and you are likely to see me up there), but if you build something cool that people will come back to - that is just as important. It pays off too.

Just checking around lately and you have some really good rankings, especially after the Florida update. You actually show up as the first adult site under teen sex for example, a damn good ranking. Congrats

WG

GonePhishing · 12-23-2003, 03:01 PM

The new stuff looks great!

JamesK · 12-23-2003, 03:16 PM

congrats.

mb · 12-23-2003, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay

I don't get that many SE hits a day, a lot of that traffic is bookmarkers. One thing I have realized is that, it's one thing to be found on the SEs (type XXX {just about anything} and you are likely to see me up there), but if you build something cool that people will come back to - that is just as important. It pays off too.

Good point, Jay...

Jay and I have fine tuned our sites to take full advantage of our SE traffic. So many sites just bombard SE surfers with FPAs, banner farms etc... that's great for a quickie, but damn, just think if you got that first sale, plus a bookmarker, plus a surfer that trusts you. Gives a whole damn new meaning to "recurring revenue".

Jay, please, please, please don't give your secrets away to the masses. I want to be the only one that understands you ;-)

marc

hoes.com

xxxjay · 12-24-2003, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by mb
Jay, please, please, please don't give your secrets away to the masses. I want to be the only one that understands you ;-)

marc

hoes.com

Yeah man - I've learned my lesson about that in the past. To do what I've mentioned, it takes commitment of time, hard work, and investment of money - most people are not even ambitious enough. It was more just some common sense advice.

xxxjay · 12-24-2003, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy

Just checking around lately and you have some really good rankings, especially after the Florida update. You actually show up as the first adult site under teen sex for example, a damn good ranking. Congrats

WG

Some of my pages weathered that update - some pages got snuffed. Overall my traffic actually went up a little, even though I lost some big terms.

WiredGuy · 12-24-2003, 11:59 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
Some of my pages weathered that update - some pages got snuffed. Overall my traffic actually went up a little, even though I lost some big terms.

Consider yourself lucky, my traffic has plummetted big time. All ethical listings too, no spam or irrelevant links... surviving off freshbot and PPC SE's right now

WG

xxxjay · 12-25-2003, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy

Consider yourself lucky, my traffic has plummetted big time. All ethical listings too, no spam or irrelevant links... surviving off freshbot and PPC SE's right now

WG

Yeah - well we all know what happened. They want you surviving off those PPCs. The Florida thing was money motivated, so if you lost listings - it wasn't your fault - I'm sure. I've always played a conservative / long term SE game, so it was a big dissapointment to se good listings to get axed like that, while A LOT of the worst spam listings still lived on.

WiredGuy · 12-25-2003, 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay
Yeah - well we all know what happened. They want you surviving off those PPCs. The Florida thing was money motivated, so if you lost listings - it wasn't your fault - I'm sure. I've always played a conservative / long term SE game, so it was a big dissapointment to se good listings to get axed like that, while A LOT of the worst spam listings still lived on.

Tell me about it! All commercial stuff has been booted lately. Drives me nuts but at least we're all in the same boat. I'm just glad I wasn't singled out in this last update but a lot of changes need to come in the future to stay in business. Thank god for mixing up the SE strategy with some PPC.

WG

xxxjay · 12-26-2003, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy

Tell me about it! All commercial stuff has been booted lately. Drives me nuts but at least we're all in the same boat. I'm just glad I wasn't singled out in this last update but a lot of changes need to come in the future to stay in business. Thank god for mixing up the SE strategy with some PPC.

WG

Yeah - hadn't been doing a lot of PPC cause my ranks were really god with the free listings. My #1 refferer was a #4 for "xxx" and that is totally gone. December has been my highest sales month of all time, and I rememeber seeing a post somewhere about you being the #1 sales guy for CEN this month, so you couldn't be doing THAT bad - lol.

Pornwolf · 12-26-2003, 06:08 PM

I wonder how much better the profit is with all SE traffic compared to high (10x) numbers of traded traffic?

12-22-2003, 02:21 PM	#2
MarcWomack Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 529	Congrats Jay. Looks like another winner. Jay's Search Engine Kung Fu is strong. He's managed to help us get CJ and our other free sites up in the rankings and the traffic he sends over to CJBucks.com is top notch. You da man! __________________ Regards, MarcWomack.com Internet Advertising & Outsourcing Consultant

12-22-2003, 02:29 PM	#5
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	I'm going with 10 per site right now. I think that is reasonable. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

12-22-2003, 02:30 PM	#6
Officer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midwest Posts: 205	Sounds like a good idea to me, I'll get links to my movie sites over there asap! I have had some good traffic come in from your original links list __________________ Jeff K "Officer" Icq: 491212400 OC Cash Lords of Porn Pornstar Platinum Fresh Checks

12-22-2003, 02:59 PM	#9
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	Nice site Jay! Good luck with the SE Mojo on this one, let us know if it is easier the second time around. I'll be hitting you up about some nice text link trades soon... __________________ icq:159548293

12-22-2003, 03:07 PM	#10
juicyjew Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 71	So this is why you didn't go out drinking with us this weekend? Because you were "working"? Oh, well, I guess I can understand. Good luck with the new site, Jay! __________________ Paul Dinin - Editor Grande - Consumption Junction - CJ Bucks - ICQ: 81537174

12-22-2003, 02:15 PM	#1
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	Jay's New Linklist Since, November 2001, when I started Jays XXX Links it has become a very popular. Jays has grown from a mere 5,000 visitors a day, around this time last year, to an average 65,000-80,000 visitors a day now. I do not use traffic trading scripts or blind linking ? it?s 99% SE traffic and bookmarks. I have decided to take what I have learned and start a second linklist, this time it will list exclusively movie and video content. Here it is: Jay?s XXX Porn Movies Links http://www.xxxpornmovielinks.com/ (Yeah, I know ? it looks just looks my other site ? this is a combination of smart branding, sheer laziness, shameless duplication of success, and lack of graphic design skill. I am still tweaking the site, so withhold any final judgment.) I figure with more and more people going to broadband and DSL connections, an all movie linklist is the next logical step. I have populated it with a bunch of stuff to get it started. I am now accepting submissions. All submissions that are approved will be given a listing for a full year, as opposed to the 180 day standard listings. Remember, this is not a TGP nor is it a site that links pictures ? this is a linklist for movies. I also would like to see my recips listed with the recips of the other big linklists ? call me stuck up, but that the way I want it. As many of you know, I concentrate on search engine traffic, so having your sites listed here is a great way for you to get spidered, and eventually get a few of your own SE hits. I?m also going to be running a lot of my own traffic through. I already have a decent amount of links pointed into this site and it?s already indexed: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...vielinks.com%2F I?m also looking to trade with other links lists that have relevant content. Email me at [email protected] if you have any questions. If you are a free site builder ? gimmie some submissions! PS ? there will be a top referrers list once I get the script plugged in. Let me know what you think. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

12-22-2003, 02:22 PM	#3
ATL_Ryan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,519	Looks great Jay. You got mad SE skillz. Best of luck with the new site.

12-22-2003, 02:26 PM	#4
jerseygirls Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 219	Hey Jay, Best of luck on the new site. I'll be submitting some galleries soon to grab some of that awsome SE traffic of yours :-) How many movies per submission are required to get listed?

12-22-2003, 02:53 PM	#8
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	looks good as always dude

12-22-2003, 03:13 PM	#11
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	gornyhuy, Trax - I see you guys in the queue for jays-xxx-links once in a while. build some movie sites! - i am extending the expiration to a year for all of the submissions i get in the first month or so it isn't said often, but i'll say it here - on almost all major linklists - your link expires after 180 days oh yeah - and ther is no easter bunny too __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

12-22-2003, 03:19 PM	#13
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,488	Congrats Jay, keep up the great work WG __________________ I play with Google.

12-22-2003, 03:29 PM	#14
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	WiredGuy - you gonna be in Vegas? I'd love to "talk shop" with you sometime. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

12-22-2003, 03:39 PM	#16
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	good deal jay...thanks for the sales as always

12-22-2003, 03:41 PM	#18
SpacemanSpiff Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: 5th and main Posts: 230	Nice dude. I'll have to dust off the old mpeg editor and make some movie sites. Get me some of that killer SE traffic you send. __________________ Freepicssex.com - Submit Your Free Sites

12-22-2003, 03:46 PM	#20
Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	Congrats Jay ! You got some hot SE Skillz for sure. Goodluck with the site, i hope it will be as big as you 1st linklist by next year Goodluck bro

12-22-2003, 03:48 PM	#21
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,469	nice stuff. Good luck with your next venture __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

12-22-2003, 05:36 PM	#28
CNN Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: ...on.....little......planet..... GFY Co-Administrator Posts: 352	very nice buddy __________________ Abama mama

12-22-2003, 06:51 PM	#31
mb Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,550	Hell yeah, Jay! Great idea that I'm sure will do well for you! It's always nice to see familiar company in the top 5 at google for my keywords ;-) we need to hook up some category trades. hopefully I'll run into you in vegas marc hoes.com

12-22-2003, 07:18 PM	#32
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	Wiredguy - We don't want to scare them away. We need to say that we a famous rappers. Marc - That's awesome that you'll be out there. Hoes.com is the greatest domain name ever...OK, I'll give you 20 bucks for, and that's my final offer. Seriously, my cell # is (404)423-7791, I'll be staying at the Venitian, you can email me at [email protected], or you can find me hemoraging cash at Cheetah's. I'd love to have the chance talk with you. I might even get some business done on this trip...we'll see - LOL. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

12-23-2003, 06:54 AM	#34
Bulldog-Johnnie Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 662	Way to go Jay- There's no question you are the SE Pimp of the century. __________________ [email protected] ICQ-76720120

12-23-2003, 06:56 AM	#35
johnbosh Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands, Rotterdam Posts: 8,965	wow dindt knew you could get that much se traffic

12-23-2003, 06:59 AM	#36
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	jay drop me a line on icq marc would be cool if you could do the same: 59 101 924 Thanks a lot guys

12-23-2003, 09:14 AM	#38
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Looks sweet, best of luck with it ;)

12-23-2003, 03:01 PM	#41
GonePhishing Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Blah Posts: 2,474	The new stuff looks great! __________________ If Biff Fucks My Mom... I Might Never Be Born...

12-23-2003, 03:16 PM	#42
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12-26-2003, 06:08 PM	#50
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I wonder how much better the profit is with all SE traffic compared to high (10x) numbers of traded traffic? __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.