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Spunky · 12-20-2003, 07:43 PM

I agree keep the wife g/f comments to yourself. Its lame to bash or throw insults at somebody you don't know and can't defend themselves.

chodadog · 12-20-2003, 08:04 PM

C'monnnn!

1) Idiot for not realising.
2) Asshole for not caring.
3) Naive for believing they'd make some kind of exception.

C'mon master blogger!

Pleasurepays · 12-20-2003, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

WTF?????????

That is one of the dumbest things I think anyone as ever said in response to the comment of, Nothing Last Forever.

Dude I think you are too overwhelmed with the need to fit in with everyone. You are jumping on the ?Amp has problems? band wagon. You haven?t a clue. You just read the other posts from peeps and ya think, ?Yeah I?ll say what they are saying, and then I?ll belong and everyone will like me.?

yeah. i am on the bandwagon calling an idiot and idiot. you of course are paid to defend the idiot.... which certainly makes you a free thinking and objective individual.

the only thing worse than being a fucked up and insecure idiot who thinks the "ban" button is the "God" button is the dipshit sycophant who kisses his ass.

Honeyslut · 12-20-2003, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox
Oh the sweet hypocrisy. This drives tears into my eyes.

Word.

They can't bash his gf but HE can bash any girl here that he wants.

BradShaw · 12-20-2003, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1
I agree keep the wife g/f comments to yourself. Its lame to bash or throw insults at somebody you don't know and can't defend themselves.

Amp is a public figure and needs to grow up. In fact, he has many times made rude comments regarding my new wife. He is a baby, he can dish it out, but he can not take it.

BradShaw · 12-20-2003, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut

Word.

They can't bash his gf but HE can bash any girl here that he wants.

Amp must be incredibly insecure about his old lady. Anyone ever met her, or know the story? Feel sorry for her that she has to put up with that time bomb. Then again, I feel sorry for my wife at times for having to put up with me! But I have a big one, not sure what he brings to the realtionship other than prescription drugs.

This is nothing compared to what went on back in the old days 1998ish, before amp even knew what a computer was.

Pleasurepays · 12-20-2003, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut

Word.

They can't bash his gf but HE can bash any girl here that he wants.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Diagnostic Criteria

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
requires excessive admiration
4) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
5) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
6) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
7) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
8) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Psychosocial Treatment

Basic Principles:

Narcissistic patients try to sustain an image of perfection and personal invincibility for themselves and attempt to project that impression to others as well. Physical illness may shatter this illusion, and a patient may lose the feeling of safety inherent in a cohesive sense of self. This loss precipitates a panicky sensation that "my world is falling to pieces," and the patient feels a sense of personal fragmentation.

The histrionic patient's idealization of the physician stands in contrast to the narcissistic patient's frequent contemptuous disregard for the physician, who is denigrated in a defensive effort to maintain a sense of superiority and mastery over illness. Only the most senior physician in a prestigious institution is deemed worthy of respect as the frightened patient seeks an external reflection of his or her own fragile grandeur in the doctor. More junior members of the health care team may be the targets of derision as the patient seeks to establish hierarchical dominance in order to counter the shame and fear triggered by illness.

Health care professionals must convey a feeling of respect and acknowledge the patient's sense of self-importance so that the patient can reestablish a coherent sense of self, but they must at the same time avoid reinforcing either pathologic grandiosity (which may contribute to denial of illness) or weakness (which frightens the patient). An initial approach of support followed by step-by-step confrontation of the patient's vulnerabilities may enable the patient to deal with the implications of illness with feelings of greater subjective strength. The increased self-confidence may reduce the patient's need to attack the health care team in a misguided effort at psychologic self-preservation and eases the pressure to provide perfect care, since the patient's antagonistic feeling of entitlement (defined by DSM-III as an "expectation of special favors without assuming reciprocal responsibilities") is reduced.

Many of the treatment principles and approaches discussed for this disorder apply as well to Borderline Personality Disorder.

The individual with narcissistic and related personality disorders is likely to present with Axis I symptoms and disorders at various times in his or her life. These should be treated as described elsewhere. Caution should be observed, however, not to overdiagnose psychotic decompensation as Schizophrenia unless all DSM-III criteria are apparent. The same caveat applies to the pharmacologic treatment of depressive symptoms in the absence of clinical signs of Major Affective Disorder. When treating presenting symptoms and Axis I disorders in patients with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and other similar conditions, attention should be paid to the consequences of removing symptoms in a patient whose underlying character is primitive and or fragile.

Some clinicians, suggest that the grandiosity and tendency to idealize and devalue should be interpreted as defensive maneuvers when aspects of early conflictual relationships are played out in adult life. Other clinicians, posit that the emergence of the patient's grandiosity and tendency to idealize the therapist should initially be viewed supportively. To help the individual develop stronger self-esteem regulation, the therapist then gradually points out the realistic limitations of patient and therapist alike while also offering an empathic ambience to cushion patients in their efforts to accept and integrate these experiences. Unfortunately, much research will be required to validate the description and course of narcissistic personality disorder before further research can answer which techniques bring about a better response to treatment.

BradShaw · 12-20-2003, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Diagnostic Criteria

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
requires excessive admiration
4) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
5) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
6) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
7) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
8) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Psychosocial Treatment

Basic Principles:

Narcissistic patients try to sustain an image of perfection and personal invincibility for themselves and attempt to project that impression to others as well. Physical illness may shatter this illusion, and a patient may lose the feeling of safety inherent in a cohesive sense of self. This loss precipitates a panicky sensation that "my world is falling to pieces," and the patient feels a sense of personal fragmentation.

The histrionic patient's idealization of the physician stands in contrast to the narcissistic patient's frequent contemptuous disregard for the physician, who is denigrated in a defensive effort to maintain a sense of superiority and mastery over illness. Only the most senior physician in a prestigious institution is deemed worthy of respect as the frightened patient seeks an external reflection of his or her own fragile grandeur in the doctor. More junior members of the health care team may be the targets of derision as the patient seeks to establish hierarchical dominance in order to counter the shame and fear triggered by illness.

Health care professionals must convey a feeling of respect and acknowledge the patient's sense of self-importance so that the patient can reestablish a coherent sense of self, but they must at the same time avoid reinforcing either pathologic grandiosity (which may contribute to denial of illness) or weakness (which frightens the patient). An initial approach of support followed by step-by-step confrontation of the patient's vulnerabilities may enable the patient to deal with the implications of illness with feelings of greater subjective strength. The increased self-confidence may reduce the patient's need to attack the health care team in a misguided effort at psychologic self-preservation and eases the pressure to provide perfect care, since the patient's antagonistic feeling of entitlement (defined by DSM-III as an "expectation of special favors without assuming reciprocal responsibilities") is reduced.

Many of the treatment principles and approaches discussed for this disorder apply as well to Borderline Personality Disorder.

The individual with narcissistic and related personality disorders is likely to present with Axis I symptoms and disorders at various times in his or her life. These should be treated as described elsewhere. Caution should be observed, however, not to overdiagnose psychotic decompensation as Schizophrenia unless all DSM-III criteria are apparent. The same caveat applies to the pharmacologic treatment of depressive symptoms in the absence of clinical signs of Major Affective Disorder. When treating presenting symptoms and Axis I disorders in patients with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and other similar conditions, attention should be paid to the consequences of removing symptoms in a patient whose underlying character is primitive and or fragile.

Some clinicians, suggest that the grandiosity and tendency to idealize and devalue should be interpreted as defensive maneuvers when aspects of early conflictual relationships are played out in adult life. Other clinicians, posit that the emergence of the patient's grandiosity and tendency to idealize the therapist should initially be viewed supportively. To help the individual develop stronger self-esteem regulation, the therapist then gradually points out the realistic limitations of patient and therapist alike while also offering an empathic ambience to cushion patients in their efforts to accept and integrate these experiences. Unfortunately, much research will be required to validate the description and course of narcissistic personality disorder before further research can answer which techniques bring about a better response to treatment.

Fits him to a T, would think they could even name it after him. Granted we all have some issues, but amp is just in another planet.

gornyhuy · 12-20-2003, 09:36 PM

JESUS this thread is fucking rocking out of control...

Drama, multiple bannings, bitchcraft galore...

[cracks open another beer]

Keep it coming boys!

Loryn · 12-20-2003, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

yeah. i am on the bandwagon calling an idiot and idiot. you of course are paid to defend the idiot.... which certainly makes you a free thinking and objective individual.

the only thing worse than being a fucked up and insecure idiot who thinks the "ban" button is the "God" button is the dipshit sycophant who kisses his ass.

First of all, I am not paid to defend Amp. Wrong #1.

Second, you are right that I am a free thinking objective individual, but it's not because I am paid to be, it's because I am. So that would make wrong #2.

Third, and wrong #3, a clueless man assuming the intentions of human beings that he does not know at all is far worse than a idiot God and a dipshit ass kisser!!!

SureFire · 12-20-2003, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut

Word.

They can't bash his gf but HE can bash any girl here that he wants.

So true but we are members of this board unlike his girlfriend who is not is this biz.

BradShaw · 12-20-2003, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

First of all, I am not paid to defend Amp. Wrong #1.

Second, you are right that I am a free thinking objective individual, but it's not because I am paid to be, it's because I am. So that would make wrong #2.

Third, and wrong #3, a clueless man assuming the intentions of human beings that he does not know at all is far worse than a idiot God and a dipshit ass kisser!!!

Do you get bonus points for defending him? I know that may not mean pay, but Lens point system in the office is well known.

theking · 12-20-2003, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Honeyslut

Word.

They can't bash his gf but HE can bash any girl here that he wants.

While what you said is true...don't worry about it...he is a self confessed mental case...and his days are numbered as a mod...in the meantime the members of the board will just have to put up with his illness.

Pleasurepays · 12-20-2003, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

First of all, I am not paid to defend Amp. Wrong #1.

Second, you are right that I am a free thinking objective individual, but it's not because I am paid to be, it's because I am. So that would make wrong #2.

Third, and wrong #3, a clueless man assuming the intentions of human beings that he does not know at all is far worse than a idiot God and a dipshit ass kisser!!!

people who use "

" in posts defending themselves typically do so as a defensive mechanism much like a fake laugh is used in feinting self confidence.

the good news is that maybe Amp and you can split the costs of therapy... given that you both work for the same company, you might want to look into what may or may not be covered by insurance by Lens' policies.

Loryn · 12-20-2003, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw

Do you get bonus points for defending him? I know that may not mean pay, but Lens point system in the office is well known.

Well it's not well known to me. I have never heard about it. I guess I do not qualify.

BTW, how is this bonus point system known??? The same way you know people's intentions, by assuming?????

Loryn · 12-20-2003, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

people who use "" in posts defending themselves typically do so as a defensive mechanism much like a fake laugh is used in feinting self confidence.

the good news is that maybe Amp and you can split the costs of therapy... given that you both work for the same company, you might want to look into what may or may not be covered by insurance by Lens' policies.

OMG once again you assume my intentions and you are wrong. You know if you admit you are doing this it might help you in the future.

I use the smilies because I think they are cute, fun and add a little character to what I am saying. You know I am a girl and some girls like doing cute stuff like that, which in no means shows they are insecure, or lacking of self confidence.

My insurance policy is my own not the companies. Wrong again!!!!

This is fun!!!!! Wait............

Okay and last but not least the fact that you think a human being needs to see a physiatrist because they use smilies in their post on GFY shows you know absolutely nothing about diagnosing psychological disorders.

baddog · 12-20-2003, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

start another thread about me, then watch the replies, and delete the thread.

hehe.

is your sig legal?

Pleasurepays · 12-20-2003, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

OMG once again you assume my intentions and you are wrong. You know if you admit you are doing this it might help you in the future.

I use the smilies because I think they are cute, fun and add a little character to what I am saying. You know I am a girl and some girls like doing cute stuff like that, which in no means shows they are insecure, or lacking of self confidence.

My insurance policy is my own not the companies. Wrong again!!!!

This is fun!!!!! Wait............

Okay and last but not least the fact that you think a human being needs to see a physiatrist because they use smilies in their post on GFY shows you know absolutely nothing about diagnosing psychological disorders.

are you a lesbian by chance?

Loryn · 12-20-2003, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

are you a lesbian by chance?

Wrong again!!!!!!

Pleasurepays · 12-20-2003, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

Wrong again!!!!!!

how is a question wrong?

you have this sort of "I am an independent and strong woman" thing going on. usually a sign of physical or emotional abuse by a male relative.

Lecter: What became of your lamb, Clarice?
Clarice: He killed him.
Lecter: You still wake up sometimes, don't you? Wake up in the dark
and hear the screaming of the lambs.
Clarice: Yes.

beemk · 12-21-2003, 12:08 AM

damn look at the drama i missed. puremeds is a standup guy. he went out of his way to help me and he didnt even know me at the time.

anidifranco · 12-21-2003, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pleasurepays

yeah. i am on the bandwagon calling an idiot and idiot. you of course are paid to defend the idiot.... which certainly makes you a free thinking and objective individual.

the only thing worse than being a fucked up and insecure idiot who thinks the "ban" button is the "God" button is the dipshit sycophant who kisses his ass.

Snap.

anidifranco · 12-21-2003, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

OMG once again you assume my intentions and you are wrong. You know if you admit you are doing this it might help you in the future.

I use the smilies because I think they are cute, fun and add a little character to what I am saying. You know I am a girl and some girls like doing cute stuff like that, which in no means shows they are insecure, or lacking of self confidence.

My insurance policy is my own not the companies. Wrong again!!!!

This is fun!!!!! Wait............

Okay and last but not least the fact that you think a human being needs to see a physiatrist because they use smilies in their post on GFY shows you know absolutely nothing about diagnosing psychological disorders.

This is what some people refer to as playing the gender card.

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FATPad · 12-21-2003, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

OMG once again you assume my intentions and you are wrong. You know if you admit you are doing this it might help you in the future.

Quote:

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com

Dude I think you are too overwhelmed with the need to fit in with everyone. You are jumping on the ?Amp has problems? band wagon. You haven?t a clue. You just read the other posts from peeps and ya think, ?Yeah I?ll say what they are saying, and then I?ll belong and everyone will like me.?

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funkmaster · 12-21-2003, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
This is nothing compared to what went on back in the old days 1998ish, before amp even knew what a computer was.

... educate me, what happened back in the old days, I was traveling the globe on my porn money, but didn't even know about ynot ... guess I must have missed something.

quiet · 12-21-2003, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
sex ed and amp..master bloggers!

lol

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