With your first answer you are not even worth an argue...

A great example of the hatred of success.

...this statement is really funny. Carry on.:)

53 year olds dont fight in afghanistan and if you were there youd be behind a desk as an officer and not posting on gfy

I think Elvis Costello sumed up best...

All we need is a little peace love and understanding.

i bet i couldnt even get through your thick fucking head with a brick:321GFY

sure.

Translation: I'm a dopey liberal who doesn't understand world politics and who is unhappy that people with back bone currently hold power.

Having a good buddy in the military is the new equivalent of a token black friend.

"One of my closest friends is black."

like in your sig...

I guess you just pulled mine.

Thanks, so true.

another finger puller :1orglaugh

Sorry - I am Saddam - not everyone my age is behind a desk. I wish I could have been. Field service was my thing. That means in the line of fire.

sure kid.
run along and start your next thread on how the US is the cause of all the world's problems.

The article does not contain any information that I was not aware of...and I disagree by 180 degrees with your statement "This war is our fault"...other than in the sense that we launched the invasion...but with many solid and sound reasons to do so. When Iraq is reasonably stabilized...we may very well launch another invasion...as several more countries need a regime change.

It amazes me how some people can just insult other people without any backing to their insult. If you would like to debate this in an intellegent manner, fine.. let's continue... otherwise... stay the fuck out of it.

Kid? depends on how old you are... by your responses, I bet I am much much older than you.

And that is our job why?

The US and the western world has enemies...and evolution is active as is "suvival of the fittest".

oh you mean the one calling in airstrikes to bomb forign troops because american troops are wimps in combat?

you don't have to lay out why a moron is a moron before you insult him. To everyone but the moron, its obvious.
If you're not a kid, you're a waste of life. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.


Blaming the US for sadaam is like the Romans blaming their former leaders for hiring the germans to fight the gauls for them shortly after the germans sacked Rome.
Time and circumstance changes.
Sadly you can't understand that.

how about we give you a rifle and a nappy and you go have fun/? fukn pussy

What is a 'finger puller'?

NBDesign, you spew the hate against the US government all the time. Now before you start another thread about how you hate the politics in the US, why don't you tell us about the ASP scripts you are selling on your website.

Ok, but don't you think we create these enemies? Especially when our leader goes against every other countries and the UN's wishes and just does what they want no matter what?

Is it right to lie to a country just to go to war?

Is it right to go to war with someone who has not done anything to you? and to pay for it with tax dollars that are needed elsewhere?

Sure there are people out there that do not like us.. but you have to ask yourself why? Why do these people hate us so bad... I am sure it is not because htey have nothing better to do... we had to do something to deserve such hatred..... don't you think?

Do you walk down the street and pick a fight for no reason? Risk getting hurt or even going to jail for nothing?

Sure, there are idiots out there that do harm just for fun, but usually they are not taking out buildings with innocent people in them...

Yea... his sig said a wise man points his finger, the fool pulls it....

So what do you want to know? Ask away. :winkwink:

To put it on a personal level...I do what I perceive will be to my benefit...if you develop a dislike for what I do and that dislike grows into hatred...I am not going to stop what I am doing because you don't like what I am doing...instead if I perceive that you are plotting to stop me from doing what I am doing...I am going to make every effort to pre-emptively take you down.

no offence, but that sounds like the ranting of a paranoid madman...

As do we all, however, what we would do would not harm another person... would it? Honestly, i could care less (if this is a personal level) what you do, like it or not... unless it was an attack on me personally and would harm me physically or take money out of my pocket.

My whole point being..... this whole Iraq thing started because of 9/11 or so that is the excuse we are getting, when Iraq had nothing to do with it. The man who planned this attack and had it executed is still at large. We took our focus off of him and put our attention elsewhere. That is my only point.

Hey, if there is a problem with Iraq, fine.. deal with it on it's own terms... I truly feel that 9/11 was just an excuse to justify this invasion.

The current Administration and Congress as the duly elected representatives of the people of the USA have an obligation to do what it perceives to be in the best interests of the people that they serve. If the people do not like the way their representatives serve them...the members of the house can be replaced every two years...members of the Administration every four years...and members of the Senate every six years.

Iraq would proably have been taken down at some point with...or without 9/11...but with 9/11 there became many solid reasons for taking them down sooner rather than later. These reasons have been expounded upon by me and others...but not all agree with the reasons...which is SOP.

You are confusing a person that acts according to his conscience with someone spewing hatred. Much better of a man than someone such as 12dicks or Rooster who lives in a world of hatred, its no surprise their dicks get hard whenever bombs drop. Thats the type of world they dream of, peace to them goes against their nature and I'm sure they feel very alone in their misery during peaceful times.

Thanks for the explanation now I know.

Is it okay to take open source code and make a few changes and sell it? And, you bitch about US government. :helpme

Very true.. but you have to admit.. this administration is fucking up royally..... I mean our freedom of speach is walking a very fine line right now....

I mean the white house web site has taken off all anti was posts on their site... Why? are we not allowed our opinion anymore?

Our privacy can be invaded just because someone may not like what you say. I was reading an article about how homeland security can do pretty much what they want when they want by issuing themselves a letter claiming terrorism.

Why are we not held accountable for our actions; We are not better than anyone else. We have weapons of mass destruction and have used them... what if another country said... hey, they may use them against us, we better attack them before they attack us. Makes you think...

What do you mean? I created those scripts.. there is no open source in them. Sorry, try again.

Actually, this all should have been settled with desert storm... we had him then, and let him go.

Well, they are entitled to their opinion (as fucked up as it is), I just wish they would make an intelegent point and stop the childish name calling. I like to debate... if they are done with thought and at least some intelegence.

But thanks :thumbsup

There are checks and balances built into our system and there is a recent good example of this. Private corporations have been invading your privacy for years (to an extent that the government probably never will)...but I seldom have heard an outcry about that.

It is the obligation of our government to control...as well as they can...the proliferation of WMD's...and to maintain as best as they can our overwhelming military superiority so that no one dares launch an attack against the CONUS.

Geo politics are not that simple...and things are usually not black or white. There were sound reasons for leaving him in power but of course not everyone agrees with the reasons.

Doubt it, NBDesign spews distaste for US politics yet still capitalizes on it.:(

And how am I capitalizing on it? Seriously.. how? Because I have a job and earn a living? I would have to do that anywhere.... so please tell me.

Also, it is just this administration I have a problem with. I would have a problem with any administration that is trying to take away my freedoms and rights.

Gotta do better than that... sorry... try again. Go back to bashing my scripts... there is another subject you know nothing about....

Maybe, but it is hard to agree with a decision that is costing us more lives over there....

That's the joy of Democracy, you get to vote and you get the blame for putting a jack ass in power.

Or did you want the right to vote without the responsibility?

In order to maintain our unchallengable military and economic dominance into the forseeable future, America should shed the old notions of multilateralism, break from its traditional allies and just wage TOTAL PERPETUAL WAR on all opposing ideologies!

our children will sing great songs about us in the future!

You sir are a fool.

Private companies can not put you in prison or execute you, can not impose taxes, laws or let soldiers shoot innocent civilians.

Go find the BBC World service and watch the intervew they did with Hans Blix, he says now there was no WMD at the time of the war. Thet aevery piece of intelligence given to him by the US was acted on and produced NOTHING. He also said when he saw the quality of the eveidence of WMD he stopped beieving there was any.

WMD was the reason for killing thousands and spending billions and they never existed. Your leader just said they did.

Yes, and large corporations have more power in our government than people realize with their big payoffs and campagin contribs. As for invasion of our privacy, if that is true.. it is not as in your face as what is going on now with this homeland security.

What is this homeland security anyway... what is the National Guard? Arn't they the one that are suppose to protect our nation against these atacks?

I am sure we will never agree on this... but you have to admit that this administration has gone just a bit overboard on this whole security issue.

All I know is that ALL these politicians need to be held accountable for their actions... We are no saints.. we have caused havock ourselves... we have wmd's but it's ok.

But in the end... was this war worth it? The fighting continues and people are still dying... the cost is very expensive, and our economy is suffering. And for what.. There are still people out there that hate us, if not bin ladden, saddam, if not saddam, there will be someone else that will come along that will be far worse then both of them put together.

It sucks to agree with this guy but for once hes right.

No, they existed, we gave them to iraq. We never found any because they have all been used up and there were none left.. but they were there and you can thank the Regan administration for that one.

Heuh? For God's sake I worshipped the US until they came to Beirut to apparently save us in the Christian community and put a stop to the war and then all of a sudden I see them running away from Hezbollah. I mean really :) You can imagine my disappointment. I still loved the US though but then I discovered that the CIA was supporting a guy like Bashir Gemayel, a guy who slaughtered Muslims. All the US presidents couldn't be good, some of them where quiet bad, like Bush nowadays. But hey if you're naïve enough to believe that all US presidents always did the right thing, it's your opinion.

Yes the sound reasons were the reason he got away with being a mass murderer with the US goverments help.

The US was anti Iran, because they had thrown out a dictator friendly to the US and captured the US Embassy hostages. The US also did not want Iraq's oil in the hands of the Mullahs. The Iranians are now our friends.

So they supported Saddam while he murdered millions.

It's not too difficult to understand for most of us, just fools like you seem unable to grasp it.

Dumbass...from your posts you seem to be a self hating american and the scripts you are selling are a copies of open source asp with some changes that you made. You figure it out.

Actually, I voted fort he other jackass.. the one that had all his votes tossed out in florida...

All politicans are out for one thing... power and money. They forget they are public servants that work for us. They say and do things that benefit them. not us.

For once, I would like to see an honest person get elected and not get corrupt with power... but this is reality and not fantasy island so i guess that will never happen.

Heh, thanks to the action of this administration there will be many, MANY more enemies for a long time to come - and they will be MUCH WORSE than binladen and pals.

But that's what they want, right?

How can we get the sheep to offer up their money/children without an unending war in Eurasia, and an Emannuel Goldstein?