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AaronM 12-18-2003 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls


Agreed! That statement should cover message board conduct as well. Right on Aaron!

Fuck no. Message boards are nothing more than playgrounds in the first place.

AaronM 12-18-2003 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Biggy2


well, to be completely honest, if that was your motto,

kiss away 50% of your business, at least :)

First off....If that were the case then it would be fine with me.

Secondly....Ask about my public image before you make false statements.

AaronM 12-18-2003 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM


First off....If that were the case then it would be fine with me.

Secondly....Ask about my public image before you make false statements.

There is a reason that my email box is stuffed full iof private party invites for Internext. While everybody posts their concerns of the lack of parties...I am trying to figure out how to hit all the ones I have been invited to.

Does that make me any better than the rest of you? No....But it does say something about my public image.

FreeNetPass Jenefer 12-18-2003 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM


There is a reason that my email box is stuffed full iof private party invites for Internext. While everybody posts their concerns of the lack of parties...I am trying to figure out how to hit all the ones I have been invited to.

Does that make me any better than the rest of you? No....But it does say something about my public image.

Hahaha Youre such a bragger!

inthestars 12-18-2003 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
What's your opinion on people under the age of 21 attending a convention in Vegas?

IMHO...

There are webmasters who are well over 21 that are not mature enough to handle this. However, underage drinking is always a problem and that opens the event sponsors and the venues up to legal problems. The majority of the problems that I have seen from those under 21 are isolated to people from the U.S. It would seem that the minors in our country are not advanced enough to know how to act appropriately. I have underage friends from Scotland who come to these things and they manage to maintain control and act like adults.

Putting the drinking issue aside?.Vegas is a gambling town with a 21 years of age requirement for that. Minors are not even permitted to stand and watch. With the sponsors stepping down their parties this year....This is going to leave fewer and fewer places for minors to hang out without forcing them into public places and increasing the risk of bad publicity.

Your thoughts?

I don't think there is an answer. There's just a real cultural problem in the US in regards to the way that people are brought up to act in public. Some people were never taught that there's a way to act at home and a way to act in public.

AaronM 12-18-2003 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer


Hahaha Youre such a bragger!

Said the poor little girl who was cast away from one of my business luncheons in Vancouver.

JFK 12-18-2003 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by RocHard



I'm gonna wait until you get fucked up, strip your ass naked, and flog you right there on the fucking strip.

Well it was a good thing it wasnt me who posted that:1orglaugh

Biggy2 12-18-2003 02:22 PM

AaronM,

who said anything about your public image?

you seem to have a lot on your mind... :glugglug

Rictor 12-18-2003 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by Fu-Q


what about adults under the age of 21?

No such thing.

CDSmith 12-18-2003 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Biggy2
well, to be completely honest, if that was your motto,

kiss away 50% of your business, at least :)

Tell me you've gone mental. He said, IF you can't contain yourself from acting like an immature shithead in public he doesn't want your business. What's wrong with that? I can safely attest that I wouldn't want to waste my time talking business with someone like that either.

As for 18-21 yr old people that DO act professionally, that's another story. I judge no one solely on their age, and I'm sure Aaron is the same way.

AaronM 12-18-2003 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by Biggy2
AaronM,

who said anything about your public image?

you seem to have a lot on your mind... :glugglug

Don't ask about her public image. That's a sore subject with her.

Jenefer is very hyper. A girl I had in Seattle with me last weekend asked me if Jen was a tweaker.

No joke.

No worries Jen...I told her you only smoked crack after sex on Thursdays.

Biggy2 12-18-2003 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Tell me you've gone mental. He said, IF you can't contain yourself from acting like an immature shithead in public he doesn't want your business. What's wrong with that? I can safely attest that I wouldn't want to waste my time talking business with someone like that either.

As for 18-21 yr old people that DO act professionally, that's another story. I judge no one solely on their age, and I'm sure Aaron is the same way.

have you attended one of these shows before?

did you hear about the stories from Miami?

have a chat with BradShaw. :)

AaronM 12-18-2003 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Tell me you've gone mental. He said, IF you can't contain yourself from acting like an immature shithead in public he doesn't want your business. What's wrong with that? I can safely attest that I wouldn't want to waste my time talking business with someone like that either.

As for 18-21 yr old people that DO act professionally, that's another story. I judge no one solely on their age, and I'm sure Aaron is the same way.

Indeed. :thumbsup

Rictor 12-18-2003 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by ytcracker
i was reading "poker player" from the gambling times and some 18 year old kid from sweden won 11k.

go him.

anyway, foreign webmasters/constituents:

what are the legal gambling/drinking ages in your neck of the woods?

i think canada is like 18/19 in different places with drinking and gambling being laterally legal.

i seriously think the u.s. is just overzealous with their legal ages.

I say lower the gambling and drinking ages to 18 and raise the driving age to 21. It would solve a lot of problems.

Fu-Q 12-18-2003 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor


No such thing.

:1orglaugh

johnbosh 12-18-2003 02:28 PM

im 20 am i allowed?

CDSmith 12-18-2003 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Indeed. :thumbsup
Absolutely.

BradShaw 12-18-2003 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
This biz gets more unstable by the minute. This thread did have merit, then all the assholes/ ego whores came out.

And what are your credentials?

Biggy2 12-18-2003 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw



And what are your credentials?

i remember a ton of shit being talked too.

Johnny Gash 12-18-2003 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by necronookie
Why not treat it like any 18+ club would? Let 18-20 in with big marks-a-lot X's on their hands and wristbands for those 21+?

That way if something were to happen, at least you can show that you were proactive in detouring the underage from drinking.

Use wristbands like the man said. It's cheap as fuck, and it'll keep you, the party-thrower, from being fucked in the end. I'm 18, I could care less about drinking, my boss is sending my to Vegas to make connections to other companies. If someone buys me a drink, I'll drink it, but I'm not going to go out of my way to find someone to buy some kid a beer.

When I went to Erotica LA, I wasn't being a fucking mark. I saw these dudes double my age acting like little girls around some of the broads. Horrible. Age doesn't mean maturity, especially in this business.

NBDesign 12-18-2003 02:39 PM

All I can say is that... the parties were the best part of the expo last year... it was my first and I had a great time... however, I must give these sponsors credit... they take a huge risk when throwing these parties... Serving alocohol to ANYONE, not just minors, is a big responsibility, if they have too much, cause a wreck, hurt anothe person, YOU are responsible. Seeing some of the people last year and some getting prety out of hand... Again, I give these sponsors much credit to take that risk.

Good luck to you all, and I hope to see you in Vegas again this year.

Gals4free 12-18-2003 03:26 PM

Interesting topic, eventhough i jump in kinda late.

Im from europe, where as you all know drinking is legal from 18, even some countries 16 if im right. I am currently 20.5 and this is one of the things keeping me away from internext now in jan and keeping me wait till summer for it.

I agree with 90% of the replies here, where if your 25 and drunk you can act like a 16yo ass and when your 20 and mature you can fit in perfectly fine.

Living in europe I have my opinion about the US laws. Being able to be do porn when you are 18, but not being able to visit a stripshow till your 21, sounds kinda unlogical to me. Or being able to get a driving license when 16, and not drinking till your 21.
Anyway.

When i was in sweden last winter and got asked for id and rejected to enter into a normal bar for a beer when i was 19, i officially hate getting checked for id. (however i understand the bars covering their ass towards the law) Here in Spain (be it good or bad) they are a little more flexible with those matters, so maybe thats why i hated being idchecked and feel like a complete ass.

This is one of the reason ill only go to internext in summer! :) When i come over i wanna be able to go where i want and not be denied for some stupid age law.. (yet i understand the owners who want to cover their ass)

Just my :2 cents:

Steve

HeadPimp 12-18-2003 03:35 PM

I will agree that the 18+ crowd is a problem. Not so much that they cause problems, but that they could be the source of outside troubles. The last thing the industry needs is a raid on a party in one of the suites with naked women, booze (and drugs) every where and a couple 18 year old in the room. You know that the media would just love to work that story over...

As for the argument about being 18 so you old enough to be sent to war... I have no sympathy for that argument. Our military is all volunteer. No one made them join up. If they were drafted that might be a different matter...

rooster 12-18-2003 03:43 PM

at most indian casinos its 18 to gamble, but vegas probably dont have none of them.

Scootermuze 12-18-2003 04:03 PM

I can attest to the fact that there are some individuals under 21 that act in a more mature manner than some adults...

We've all heard about, or witnessed a few, 'adults' that throw up all over the hotel rooms.. and trash the place.. yada yada.. and act like 12 year olds trying their first beer..

But the facts have to be considered.. the law is the law.. and that's what any judge must adhere to, no matter how much he/she might agree.

The rest just depends on what risks, as party throwers, they wish to take...

"If ya wanna dance.. ya gotta pay the fiddler."

NBDesign 12-18-2003 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by Biggy2
AaronM,

your motto should be...

if you're not old enough to drink, you're not old enough to buy content off me :1orglaugh

hmmmm.... legal porn age... 18.... legal dringing age... 21... this makes no sense.

AaronM 12-18-2003 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by HeadPimp
I will agree that the 18+ crowd is a problem. Not so much that they cause problems, but that they could be the source of outside troubles. The last thing the industry needs is a raid on a party in one of the suites with naked women, booze (and drugs) every where and a couple 18 year old in the room. You know that the media would just love to work that story over...

And THAT my friend is the entire point of this thread.

baddog 12-18-2003 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by NBDesign
hmmmm.... legal porn age... 18.... legal dringing age... 21... this makes no sense.
what does one have to do with the other?

NBDesign 12-18-2003 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by baddog


what does one have to do with the other?

exactly.. someone said that if they are not of drinking age, they should not buy his product... just cannot figure that out.

arial 12-18-2003 05:16 PM

I honestly think it?s based on the maturity of an individual.

I?m probably one of the youngest webmaster here (20) been doing this since I was 18. I have never been to a webmaster get together. I feel since the legal age is 18 to get into this business why should they be treated like they are still children. Young yes, but mature that just depends on the person themselves. I have seen younger adults they are more mature the older adults. I don?t see that as a problem.

The drinking even though I hate to say it but it (since I?m not 21 yet) should be regulated. No sponsor wants to get in trouble for serving alcohol to minors that?s just not good publicity.

In the end it all bottles down to two things. How mature and professional an individual is. If they are 18 or 40 if they show the characteristics of being someone you can do successful business with throw the other shit aside. Everyone goes to have fun and enjoy themselves as well as do business. The people that can handle this and not make an ass out of themselves and/or others IMHO are the ones that should be there regardless if they?re 18 or 40. Just my :2 cents:

woj 12-18-2003 05:17 PM

200 underage webmasters in vegas

AaronM 12-18-2003 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by woj
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Nice post retard.

D-Money 12-18-2003 05:21 PM

I'm glad the Players Ball is in a bar where they screen their age.

Nick Tukhman sponsored a Players Ball once and couldn't even get into the venue because he wasn't 21 yet.



:1orglaugh

Fu-Q 12-18-2003 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by woj
200 underage webmasters in vegas
where did you learn to count?

Ross 12-18-2003 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
I have underage friends from Scotland who come to these things and they manage to maintain control and act like adults.
Thanks buddy.

Last year when I was in Vegas I drank a lot of alcohol at the parties and some dinners I was invited to. I didn't get into one particular party coz I was only 19 and also asked to leave the casino bard once or twice. Anytime I was drunk tho I believe I acted responsibly and gave out a good impression of myself. Aaron obviously thinks so as well since I was partying with him.

Reason I am not coming this year is coz I don't see too many parties and I won't be able to attend the players ball or the poker tournament which I was invited to since I am still only 20 years old. In June I turn 21 and I will be at ALL the conventions.

I still owe Aaron lunch :)

PerfectionGirls 12-18-2003 05:25 PM

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And what are your credentials?
Thing is Bradshaw... I don't have to list them on a public forum to feel good about myself.

However, the day you catch up I will start showing you the respect you long for.

TurboAngel 12-18-2003 05:29 PM

Glad I'm 21!


:glugglug

AaronM 12-18-2003 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by D-Money
I'm glad the Players Ball is in a bar where they screen their age.

Nick Tukhman sponsored a Players Ball once and couldn't even get into the venue because he wasn't 21 yet.



:1orglaugh


Like Who?

IKE 12-18-2003 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by HeadPimp


As for the argument about being 18 so you old enough to be sent to war... I have no sympathy for that argument. Our military is all volunteer. No one made them join up. If they were drafted that might be a different matter...

Very good point

tony286 12-18-2003 05:32 PM

This is going to make me very unpopular lol but why do adult webmaster get togethers have to be drink fests. I have to tell you no matter what kind of background or experience a person has, seeing some pic of them so fucked up they have lost control or doing something really stupid. I could never take them serious. This is a business convention not some party at a friends house. One of the reasons we don?t go to the shows is the thought of being one of the few sober people a room or a building doesn?t appeal to me. As far as people under 21 , if they are there to do business be on the convention floor and do business, go to dinner and do business. If liquor is served at a party they shouldn?t be there, the party gets busted it shows bad on all of us and we all know how the media could run with a story like that.


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