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Furious_Female · 12-17-2003, 10:15 AM

Feds may turn to bounty hunters to catch spammers

FTC is studying concept and will report to Congress

By Marilyn Geewax
Cox News Service

Saturday, December 13, 2003

WASHINGTON -- Armed with a tough new anti-spam law, federal agents can begin hitting illegal spammers with heavy fines in 2004.

That is, if they can catch them. Unfortunately for law enforcement officers, the people who send out torrents of unwanted electronic messages can be very elusive, hiding behind false addresses and fake names.

But some experts believe help may be on the way: the new law requires the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to study the feasibility of using bounty hunters to track down outlaw spammers.

Supporters envision the day when armies of 18-year-olds will be transformed into a global posse, riding out over the Internet to help round up bad guys.

"It's a promising approach," said John Palfrey, executive director of the Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University's law school. "I do think that a bounty system can be part of an integrated solution" that would include traditional law enforcement and spam-filtering software.

The bounty-hunter idea was promoted this year primarily by Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., and Sen. Jon Corzine, D-N.J., who called upon Congress to allow individuals who identify and help locate spammers to receive at least 20 percent of any fines collected.

When Congress gave final approval to the legislation this month, it decided not to implement the program immediately. Instead, it ordered the FTC to take nine months to study the concept and report back.

FTC staff attorney Brian Huseman said the study may show the bounty-hunter proposal has serious drawbacks.

"It is hard to locate spammers, and it'd be very hard without subpoena power," he said.

Moreover, the costs of a bounty-hunter program may well exceed the benefits, he said. Instead of hiring well-trained enforcement agents, the FTC would be spending resources on maintaining a bounty system, and operating an appeals process to settle disputes over rewards, he said.

Mark Uncapher, senior vice president of the Information Technology Association of America, an industry group, also expressed skepticism. He pointed out that when it comes to tracking down spammers, Internet service providers "already spend a huge amount of time on this."

The possibility of capturing spammers without law enforcement powers seems remote, he said. "It's a very hard process because spammers are like cockroaches, they go away when the lights go on," Uncapher said.

Still, some experts say the bounty idea could work well enough to justify its costs and risks. Walter Janowski, a research director for Gartner Inc., a tech consulting firm based in Stamford, Conn., is among the optimists.

"Where this could be potentially valuable would be in motivating 'insiders' (such as) individuals working with or associated with violators, to turn in their associates," Janowski said.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/busin...pambounty.html

Can you imagine? LMAO I think that's hilarious! The "war on spam" will be the same as the war on drugs... and we all know how successful that is.

ytcracker · 12-17-2003, 10:19 AM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=209907

HAHAHAHHA we are both loling

pornguy · 12-17-2003, 10:20 AM

That is the stupidest idea I have ever heard of. When the pressure comes down on them to get someone that is flooding the net, they will just pick someone that they can prove a little of and then make that guy defend him self. It will cost him his life, and then they will saay, Sorry. we thought it was you...

ytcracker · 12-17-2003, 10:21 AM

i seriously think

competitors will turn each other in for a little bling

mad gay

Ice · 12-17-2003, 10:23 AM

Furious_Female · 12-17-2003, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ytcracker
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=209907

HAHAHAHHA we are both loling

e-God just sent me the link, sorry to make a double post

Anyway, it's so fuckin funny!

ytcracker · 12-17-2003, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Female

e-God just sent me the link, sorry to make a double post

Anyway, it's so fuckin funny!

i like ur thread better anyway

KMR Stitch · 12-17-2003, 10:26 AM

How much are you worth ytc?

aaron · 12-17-2003, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ytcracker
i seriously think

competitors will turn each other in for a little bling

mad gay

thats what i was thinking man

ytcracker · 12-17-2003, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
How much are you worth ytc?

ill do fed time just for the street credit

me and my friend egod are going to turn each other in once a year to make a living

stocktrader23 · 12-17-2003, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ytcracker

ill do fed time just for the street credit

me and my friend egod are going to turn each other in once a year to make a living

Haha you silly fucker.

Furious_Female · 12-17-2003, 10:35 AM

iceicebaby said to me on ICQ

Quote:

Ice (12:20 PM) :
<B>I can just see a spammer using a open relay proxie and some granny getting her door busted down by a bounty hunter

</B>

myjah · 12-17-2003, 02:38 PM

lol. their pay will be 20% of fines collected. i think someone would be paying me upfront

GonePhishing · 12-17-2003, 03:03 PM

Damn Skip Tracers,

Bounty Hunters are so whack. There are no laws controling these people. They have more freedom to abuse power than cops do. The worst part is anyone can be a bounty hunter if they want to. No qualifications, badges cost $30... And that's it... You're a bounty hunter. You can capture a wanted person... Abuse them... Treat them worse than the police... And get away with it.

polish_aristocrat · 12-17-2003, 03:04 PM

No more 3000 sales per week, F_F ?

davidd · 12-17-2003, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by myjah
lol. their pay will be 20% of fines collected. i think someone would be paying me upfront

Death Before Dishonor.

It would be a frosty day in hell before I rolled anyone, regardless of past history. Issues such as these are to be resolved without getting "momma" involved.

ytcracker · 12-17-2003, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by davidd

Death Before Dishonor.

It would be a frosty day in hell before I rolled anyone, regardless of past history. Issues such as these are to be resolved without getting "momma" involved.

god bless you

snitches die a horrible death

buckwheats for the lot of them

ThunderBalls · 12-17-2003, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Female
Feds may turn to bounty hunters to catch spammers

You mean I can get you busted and make $$? Damn, maybe Bush aint all that bad!

Furious_Female · 12-17-2003, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
No more 3000 sales per week, F_F ?

Nope... probably 10,000 now

Furious_Female · 12-17-2003, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ThunderBalls

You mean I can get you busted and make $$? Damn, maybe Bush aint all that bad!

Well first you'd need to find me... which isn't all that hard, but proving I did anything might take ya awhile

Brujah · 12-17-2003, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ytcracker
i seriously think

competitors will turn each other in for a little bling

mad gay

Wow, my great-great-great-grandkids could retire just turning in GFY spammers alone!

Nismo · 12-17-2003, 04:44 PM

I think I might have to turn myself in for some extra christmas money.

ThunderBalls · 12-17-2003, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Female

Well first you'd need to find me... which isn't all that hard, but proving I did anything might take ya awhile

Nah, messin with ya is priceless.

Ice · 12-17-2003, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Female

Well first you'd need to find me... which isn't all that hard, but proving I did anything might take ya awhile

I got a nice safe place in Canada you can hide out in

Furious_Female · 12-17-2003, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iceicebaby

I got a nice safe place in Canada you can hide out in

But south of the border is much cheaper!

See you in Mexico mi amigo

RATBOY · 12-17-2003, 05:45 PM

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Furious_Female Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate, New York Posts: 8,187	Feds may turn to bounty hunters to catch spammers Feds may turn to bounty hunters to catch spammers FTC is studying concept and will report to Congress By Marilyn Geewax Cox News Service Saturday, December 13, 2003 WASHINGTON -- Armed with a tough new anti-spam law, federal agents can begin hitting illegal spammers with heavy fines in 2004. That is, if they can catch them. Unfortunately for law enforcement officers, the people who send out torrents of unwanted electronic messages can be very elusive, hiding behind false addresses and fake names. But some experts believe help may be on the way: the new law requires the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to study the feasibility of using bounty hunters to track down outlaw spammers. Supporters envision the day when armies of 18-year-olds will be transformed into a global posse, riding out over the Internet to help round up bad guys. "It's a promising approach," said John Palfrey, executive director of the Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University's law school. "I do think that a bounty system can be part of an integrated solution" that would include traditional law enforcement and spam-filtering software. The bounty-hunter idea was promoted this year primarily by Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., and Sen. Jon Corzine, D-N.J., who called upon Congress to allow individuals who identify and help locate spammers to receive at least 20 percent of any fines collected. When Congress gave final approval to the legislation this month, it decided not to implement the program immediately. Instead, it ordered the FTC to take nine months to study the concept and report back. FTC staff attorney Brian Huseman said the study may show the bounty-hunter proposal has serious drawbacks. "It is hard to locate spammers, and it'd be very hard without subpoena power," he said. Moreover, the costs of a bounty-hunter program may well exceed the benefits, he said. Instead of hiring well-trained enforcement agents, the FTC would be spending resources on maintaining a bounty system, and operating an appeals process to settle disputes over rewards, he said. Mark Uncapher, senior vice president of the Information Technology Association of America, an industry group, also expressed skepticism. He pointed out that when it comes to tracking down spammers, Internet service providers "already spend a huge amount of time on this." The possibility of capturing spammers without law enforcement powers seems remote, he said. "It's a very hard process because spammers are like cockroaches, they go away when the lights go on," Uncapher said. Still, some experts say the bounty idea could work well enough to justify its costs and risks. Walter Janowski, a research director for Gartner Inc., a tech consulting firm based in Stamford, Conn., is among the optimists. "Where this could be potentially valuable would be in motivating 'insiders' (such as) individuals working with or associated with violators, to turn in their associates," Janowski said. http://www.daytondailynews.com/busin...pambounty.html Can you imagine? LMAO I think that's hilarious! The "war on spam" will be the same as the war on drugs... and we all know how successful that is. __________________ Skype: j3nn.com ICQ 160370494 My current favorite high-converting sponsor: CrakRevenue

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pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	That is the stupidest idea I have ever heard of. When the pressure comes down on them to get someone that is flooding the net, they will just pick someone that they can prove a little of and then make that guy defend him self. It will cost him his life, and then they will saay, Sorry. we thought it was you... __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

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GonePhishing Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Blah Posts: 2,474	Damn Skip Tracers, Bounty Hunters are so whack. There are no laws controling these people. They have more freedom to abuse power than cops do. The worst part is anyone can be a bounty hunter if they want to. No qualifications, badges cost $30... And that's it... You're a bounty hunter. You can capture a wanted person... Abuse them... Treat them worse than the police... And get away with it. __________________ If Biff Fucks My Mom... I Might Never Be Born...

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