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Furious_Female 12-17-2003 10:15 AM

Feds may turn to bounty hunters to catch spammers
 
Feds may turn to bounty hunters to catch spammers

FTC is studying concept and will report to Congress

By Marilyn Geewax
Cox News Service

Saturday, December 13, 2003

WASHINGTON -- Armed with a tough new anti-spam law, federal agents can begin hitting illegal spammers with heavy fines in 2004.

That is, if they can catch them. Unfortunately for law enforcement officers, the people who send out torrents of unwanted electronic messages can be very elusive, hiding behind false addresses and fake names.

But some experts believe help may be on the way: the new law requires the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to study the feasibility of using bounty hunters to track down outlaw spammers.

Supporters envision the day when armies of 18-year-olds will be transformed into a global posse, riding out over the Internet to help round up bad guys.

"It's a promising approach," said John Palfrey, executive director of the Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University's law school. "I do think that a bounty system can be part of an integrated solution" that would include traditional law enforcement and spam-filtering software.

The bounty-hunter idea was promoted this year primarily by Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., and Sen. Jon Corzine, D-N.J., who called upon Congress to allow individuals who identify and help locate spammers to receive at least 20 percent of any fines collected.

When Congress gave final approval to the legislation this month, it decided not to implement the program immediately. Instead, it ordered the FTC to take nine months to study the concept and report back.

FTC staff attorney Brian Huseman said the study may show the bounty-hunter proposal has serious drawbacks.

"It is hard to locate spammers, and it'd be very hard without subpoena power," he said.

Moreover, the costs of a bounty-hunter program may well exceed the benefits, he said. Instead of hiring well-trained enforcement agents, the FTC would be spending resources on maintaining a bounty system, and operating an appeals process to settle disputes over rewards, he said.

Mark Uncapher, senior vice president of the Information Technology Association of America, an industry group, also expressed skepticism. He pointed out that when it comes to tracking down spammers, Internet service providers "already spend a huge amount of time on this."

The possibility of capturing spammers without law enforcement powers seems remote, he said. "It's a very hard process because spammers are like cockroaches, they go away when the lights go on," Uncapher said.

Still, some experts say the bounty idea could work well enough to justify its costs and risks. Walter Janowski, a research director for Gartner Inc., a tech consulting firm based in Stamford, Conn., is among the optimists.

"Where this could be potentially valuable would be in motivating 'insiders' (such as) individuals working with or associated with violators, to turn in their associates," Janowski said.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/busin...pambounty.html

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Can you imagine? LMAO I think that's hilarious! The "war on spam" will be the same as the war on drugs... and we all know how successful that is.

ytcracker 12-17-2003 10:19 AM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=209907

HAHAHAHHA we are both loling

pornguy 12-17-2003 10:20 AM

That is the stupidest idea I have ever heard of. When the pressure comes down on them to get someone that is flooding the net, they will just pick someone that they can prove a little of and then make that guy defend him self. It will cost him his life, and then they will saay, Sorry. we thought it was you...

ytcracker 12-17-2003 10:21 AM

i seriously think

competitors will turn each other in for a little bling

mad gay

Ice 12-17-2003 10:23 AM

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Furious_Female 12-17-2003 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ytcracker
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=209907

HAHAHAHHA we are both loling

e-God just sent me the link, sorry to make a double post :)

Anyway, it's so fuckin funny! :1orglaugh

ytcracker 12-17-2003 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Female


e-God just sent me the link, sorry to make a double post :)

Anyway, it's so fuckin funny! :1orglaugh

i like ur thread better anyway

KMR Stitch 12-17-2003 10:26 AM

How much are you worth ytc? :1orglaugh

aaron 12-17-2003 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ytcracker
i seriously think

competitors will turn each other in for a little bling

mad gay

thats what i was thinking man :(

ytcracker 12-17-2003 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
How much are you worth ytc? :1orglaugh
ill do fed time just for the street credit

me and my friend egod are going to turn each other in once a year to make a living

stocktrader23 12-17-2003 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ytcracker


ill do fed time just for the street credit

me and my friend egod are going to turn each other in once a year to make a living

Haha you silly fucker. :1orglaugh

Furious_Female 12-17-2003 10:35 AM

iceicebaby said to me on ICQ

Quote:

Ice (12:20 PM) :
<B>I can just see a spammer using a open relay proxie and some granny getting her door busted down by a bounty hunter
</B>

:1orglaugh

myjah 12-17-2003 02:38 PM

lol. their pay will be 20% of fines collected. i think someone would be paying me upfront

GonePhishing 12-17-2003 03:03 PM

Damn Skip Tracers,

Bounty Hunters are so whack. There are no laws controling these people. They have more freedom to abuse power than cops do. The worst part is anyone can be a bounty hunter if they want to. No qualifications, badges cost $30... And that's it... You're a bounty hunter. You can capture a wanted person... Abuse them... Treat them worse than the police... And get away with it.

polish_aristocrat 12-17-2003 03:04 PM

No more 3000 sales per week, F_F ? :Graucho

davidd 12-17-2003 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by myjah
lol. their pay will be 20% of fines collected. i think someone would be paying me upfront
Death Before Dishonor.

It would be a frosty day in hell before I rolled anyone, regardless of past history. Issues such as these are to be resolved without getting "momma" involved.

ytcracker 12-17-2003 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by davidd


Death Before Dishonor.

It would be a frosty day in hell before I rolled anyone, regardless of past history. Issues such as these are to be resolved without getting "momma" involved.

god bless you

snitches die a horrible death

buckwheats for the lot of them

ThunderBalls 12-17-2003 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Female
Feds may turn to bounty hunters to catch spammers


You mean I can get you busted and make $$? Damn, maybe Bush aint all that bad! :Graucho

Furious_Female 12-17-2003 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
No more 3000 sales per week, F_F ? :Graucho
Nope... probably 10,000 now :1orglaugh :winkwink:

Furious_Female 12-17-2003 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ThunderBalls


You mean I can get you busted and make $$? Damn, maybe Bush aint all that bad! :Graucho

Well first you'd need to find me... which isn't all that hard, but proving I did anything might take ya awhile :Oh crap

Brujah 12-17-2003 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ytcracker
i seriously think

competitors will turn each other in for a little bling

mad gay

Wow, my great-great-great-grandkids could retire just turning in GFY spammers alone! :Graucho

Nismo 12-17-2003 04:44 PM

I think I might have to turn myself in for some extra christmas money.

ThunderBalls 12-17-2003 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Female


Well first you'd need to find me... which isn't all that hard, but proving I did anything might take ya awhile :Oh crap

Nah, messin with ya is priceless. :)

Ice 12-17-2003 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Female


Well first you'd need to find me... which isn't all that hard, but proving I did anything might take ya awhile :Oh crap

I got a nice safe place in Canada you can hide out in :Graucho

Furious_Female 12-17-2003 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by iceicebaby


I got a nice safe place in Canada you can hide out in :Graucho

But south of the border is much cheaper! :1orglaugh See you in Mexico mi amigo :Graucho

RATBOY 12-17-2003 05:45 PM

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