Who should follow the rules? - GoFuckYourself.com

JFPdude · 12-15-2003, 06:26 PM

In a time when the heavy hand is coming down on this industry it amazes me what the sponsors will do to get a signup from a webmaster.

From the Pornkings banner on gfy that all but disables the choice of click on the "Fucking Around & Program Discussion" link.

To QuickBucks or *cough* an affiliate *cough* registering a domain name that is a common mispelling of the gfy board itself.

Personally and many of you could care less what I think but my opinion is these are really slime ball tactics for webmasters business. Both of these examples are exact reasons why there are many lawsuits going on now, why VISA is cutting the charge back rate to 1%, and why some of the processcors are gone today.

Both of these examples are how the business has cheated the consumers by blocking thier back button and keeping them locked into a certain page, or redirecting them to somewhere they didn't want to be when they typed in a useful domain name wrong.

While some sponsors are cleaning house and making sure they will be here for a long time to come. These are the examples of businesses that need to decieve the webmasters. If you cannot make your money or refferals in this business the right way then the writing is on the wall for you.

It's time webmasters woke up to these tactics. Wake up and see whats going on around you. You think this is a mistake that the flash on the banner for Pornkings about disables the "Fucking Around & Program Discussion" link? You think it's a mistake QuickBucks has the wrong spelling of this board as a domain?

NO!!! This is the kind of deception these company's know how to use. It's also the same reasons the hammer is falling now.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!

Did you really get more sales out of those tactics? Or did you piss off some people and get the ICQ warriors started up?

I know I don't speak for myself when I say this so sponsors who care should listen:

The webmasters are as sick of certain sponsors tactics as the surfers are! I know I have stopped promoting some sponsors that use these tactics because it only shows me those sponsors will step beyond the bounds and that tells me when they get caught I don't want them holding onto any of my money.

You want loyal webmasters to push your programs? Make it worth thier while. Don't annoy them on the message boards that they hang out on to have fun by disabling shit they use, or putting god awful sounds that really doesn't appeal to them. Instead why doesn't a sponsor say "hey sales down for you? This is whats working for our affiliates... " and put out some real useful information affiliates can use.

And what are the sponsors teaching thier affiliates when they make a banner using copyrighted songs and such? Will you cut my account if I spam your site to everybody at MicroSoft? Of course you will but your telling me your all for it and fuck the rules when you use a copyrighted song in your advertisements. Why is it ok for you to break the rules but then you shut off peoples income because they push the packet?

Those of you with half a brain I expect you'll read this and understand what I am saying. The rest will flame me and thats ok too.

detoxed · 12-15-2003, 06:27 PM

You really have a problem with gofuckyourslef.com?

hyper · 12-15-2003, 06:29 PM

fuck them
if people need to resort to shit to get a webmaster signup
they should pack it up.

just run a program that wont fuck your webmasters up the ass, and you will do ok, no need for the bullshit

JFPdude · 12-15-2003, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
fuck them
if people need to resort to shit to get a webmaster signup
they should pack it up.

just run a program that wont fuck your webmasters up the ass, and you will do ok, no need for the bullshit

Exactly .. I have my list of sponsors that I have had and will continue to have a long time business relationship with.

Although moving this month really cut my nuts off as far as sending them traffic but it will pick up again ... and it's not my sponsors fault because when I promote them I make cash.

Juicy D. Links · 12-15-2003, 07:35 PM

interesting

JFPdude · 12-16-2003, 05:53 AM

Lots of views and lots of ICQ's. Seems people agree but don't want to state it publicly.

fuzebox · 12-16-2003, 06:14 AM

Yes, that is all bad.

But do you know what is the worst?

The fucking yodeler!

I don't even have a clue who it's a sponsor for, I always click refresh as soon as I can without looking at the banner.

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 06:16 AM

99% of paysite tours are deceptive about how good what's inside really is. Which ones do you send traffic to?

quiet · 12-16-2003, 06:17 AM

fuck rules

fuzebox · 12-16-2003, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
99% of paysite tours are deceptive about how good what's inside really is. Which ones do you send traffic to?

Good thing the Paris Hilton tours are an exception

JFPdude · 12-16-2003, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
99% of paysite tours are deceptive about how good what's inside really is. Which ones do you send traffic to?

I send traffic to the ones I have been inside:

sinbucks.com
epiccash.com
adultplatinum.com
triplexcash.com
lightspeed

These sponsors are on my list of good ratios and quality products for my surfers.

Also with inside knowledge I know for sure 2 of the above are not shaving at all, sinbucks.com and lightspeed so even though they are revshare programs I put my full backing into them.

The others I believe are not shaving due to the numbers I send them and the numbers they send back to me.

JustJen · 12-16-2003, 06:30 AM

JFPDude, do you not see the CLOSE X on the bottom left to close the scroll? Deceptive. No. Do you need glasses? Maybe.

JFPdude · 12-16-2003, 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by PornkingsJen
JFPDude, do you not see the CLOSE X on the bottom left to close the scroll? Deceptive. No. Need glasses? Maybe.

Yes I have seen the x and it's quite well how you put all the thought into the design so nobody can reach the "Fucking Around & Program Discussion" without precise movement of the mouse.

Nice try though.

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by JFPdude

Yes I have seen the x and it's quite well how you put all the thought into the design so nobody can reach the "Fucking Around & Program Discussion" without precise movement of the mouse.

Nice try though.

I reached it on the first try.

By the way, I've only been in one of the above mentioned sponsors members areas but if that was a good members area I can spit out about 10 "high quality" sites a day.

JustJen · 12-16-2003, 06:35 AM

LOL. I don't think Lens and crew would allow us to fuck with his board do you??? Click on the CLOSE and you will be fine. Wow. Didn't know mouse movements were so difficult.

JFPdude · 12-16-2003, 06:37 AM

BTW Jen just to check my eyesight ... why is it the banner only folds down if your inside a thread and not on the main page?

Great thought on the process ... still leads to decption if you ask me.

reynold · 12-16-2003, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper
fuck them
if people need to resort to shit to get a webmaster signup
they should pack it up.

just run a program that wont fuck your webmasters up the ass, and you will do ok, no need for the bullshit

Having a good clean reputation is the best way to get new business.

radical · 12-16-2003, 06:43 AM

I agree to no bullshit

webmatsers get fucked around too much already

JustJen · 12-16-2003, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude
BTW Jen just to check my eyesight ... why is it the banner only folds down if your inside a thread and not on the main page?

Great thought on the process ... still leads to decption if you ask me.

It folds down on the main page too. The idea that we made the banner to deceive is a very wrong assumption. I just wanted my girlfriends to get a little press of their own with the quotes!!! Jeeeeeezzzzzz.

JFPdude · 12-16-2003, 06:47 AM

Besides Jen you don't see it as fucking over Lensman and the other advertisers here?

From what I know when I was going to buy a banner it was explained to me that I bought the space on size. So I guess your paying a lot more for that banner since you deceptively take up more room then whats said the banners can be?

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornkingsJen

It folds down on the main page too. The idea that we made the banner to deceive is a very wrong assumption. I just wanted my girlfriends to get a little press of their own with the quotes!!! Jeeeeeezzzzzz.

I liked it. And it took all of .00001 seconds to go back to my last page.

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JFPdude · 12-16-2003, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornkingsJen

It folds down on the main page too. The idea that we made the banner to deceive is a very wrong assumption. I just wanted my girlfriends to get a little press of their own with the quotes!!! Jeeeeeezzzzzz.

Ok just so everybody can look before you go and change the banner. Notice the banner that comes up on the main page you have to click on it to make the bottom banner come down, on a thread page it comes down all by itself.

Check it out guys (and gals) and tell me if Jen didn't just decieve us with her comment.

JustJen · 12-16-2003, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude

Ok just so everybody can look before you go and change the banner. Notice the banner that comes up on the main page you have to click on it to make the bottom banner come down, on a thread page it comes down all by itself.

Check it out guys (and gals) and tell me if Jen didn't just decieve us with her comment.

LOL. Yep. That's me. A big scammer. Whatever.

Actually, I had plans to ditch that banner completely (as I thought it was ugly) but since you are having everyone read it and stuff maybe it should just stay!

Too early for a pissing match.... must get coffee

johnbosh · 12-16-2003, 06:59 AM

lol @ stocktrader23

JFPdude · 12-16-2003, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnbosh
lol @ stocktrader23

I've been laughing at stocktrader for a long time. Like since he put out a promotion to help new people and he didn't follow through with my wife on his "trainings" or when he tried to screw a freind on a domain he didn't even own.

So yeah stocktrader is a good one for me to listen to in this thread.

porncargo · 12-16-2003, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude
Lots of views and lots of ICQ's. Seems people agree but don't want to state it publicly.

yes, i agree

Wizzo · 12-16-2003, 07:12 AM

It's not the 1st, nor likely the the last interactive flash banner on GFY, but I think it's far from intrusive, because YOU have to click on it to even get to the point your complaining about??

JFPdude · 12-16-2003, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wizzo
It's not the 1st, nor likely the the last interactive flash banner on GFY, but I think it's far from intrusive, because YOU have to click on it to even get to the point your complaining about??

Not if your on a thread page. Which is my point. On the main list page yes you have to click on it. If your on a thread page and want to go back to the main list page the banner comes down and all but covers the link.

fatbaby · 12-16-2003, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude

I send traffic to the ones I have been inside:

sinbucks.com
epiccash.com
adultplatinum.com
triplexcash.com
lightspeed

These sponsors are on my list of good ratios and quality products for my surfers.

Also with inside knowledge I know for sure 2 of the above are not shaving at all, sinbucks.com and lightspeed so even though they are revshare programs I put my full backing into them.

The others I believe are not shaving due to the numbers I send them and the numbers they send back to me.

Thank you for the kind words

JFPdude · 12-16-2003, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fatbaby

Thank you for the kind words

No problem bro. I call it as I see it.

RogerV · 12-16-2003, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude
In a time when the heavy hand is coming down on this industry it amazes me what the sponsors will do to get a signup from a webmaster.

From the Pornkings banner on gfy that all but disables the choice of click on the "Fucking Around & Program Discussion" link.

To QuickBucks or *cough* an affiliate *cough* registering a domain name that is a common mispelling of the gfy board itself.

Personally and many of you could care less what I think but my opinion is these are really slime ball tactics for webmasters business. Both of these examples are exact reasons why there are many lawsuits going on now, why VISA is cutting the charge back rate to 1%, and why some of the processcors are gone today.

Both of these examples are how the business has cheated the consumers by blocking thier back button and keeping them locked into a certain page, or redirecting them to somewhere they didn't want to be when they typed in a useful domain name wrong.

While some sponsors are cleaning house and making sure they will be here for a long time to come. These are the examples of businesses that need to decieve the webmasters. If you cannot make your money or refferals in this business the right way then the writing is on the wall for you.

It's time webmasters woke up to these tactics. Wake up and see whats going on around you. You think this is a mistake that the flash on the banner for Pornkings about disables the "Fucking Around & Program Discussion" link? You think it's a mistake QuickBucks has the wrong spelling of this board as a domain?

NO!!! This is the kind of deception these company's know how to use. It's also the same reasons the hammer is falling now.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!

Did you really get more sales out of those tactics? Or did you piss off some people and get the ICQ warriors started up?

I know I don't speak for myself when I say this so sponsors who care should listen:

The webmasters are as sick of certain sponsors tactics as the surfers are! I know I have stopped promoting some sponsors that use these tactics because it only shows me those sponsors will step beyond the bounds and that tells me when they get caught I don't want them holding onto any of my money.

You want loyal webmasters to push your programs? Make it worth thier while. Don't annoy them on the message boards that they hang out on to have fun by disabling shit they use, or putting god awful sounds that really doesn't appeal to them. Instead why doesn't a sponsor say "hey sales down for you? This is whats working for our affiliates... " and put out some real useful information affiliates can use.

And what are the sponsors teaching thier affiliates when they make a banner using copyrighted songs and such? Will you cut my account if I spam your site to everybody at MicroSoft? Of course you will but your telling me your all for it and fuck the rules when you use a copyrighted song in your advertisements. Why is it ok for you to break the rules but then you shut off peoples income because they push the packet?

Those of you with half a brain I expect you'll read this and understand what I am saying. The rest will flame me and thats ok too.

Yea it is a mistake. I can't even believe you wrote all this because of a banner. It was something new we were trying to do and it didn't fit right nothing more then that.

anyway we will be adding a new banner to gfy without a drop down.

We have plenty of loyal webmasters and the banner was not intended to disable or make your posting experience difficult.

I hope you understand if not

RogerV · 12-16-2003, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by reynold

Having a good clean reputation is the best way to get new business.

I totally agree

Carol@Pixipay · 12-16-2003, 02:45 PM

I wasn't going to post being I rarely do over here to begin but I really have to ask

What exactly would be the benefit of our using the banner to make it difficult to post? I honestly do not understand the logic you've employed to reach that conclusion.

Oh and Jen deceptive???? Give me a break that's just ridiculous.

JFPdude · 12-16-2003, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RogerV

Yea it is a mistake. I can't even believe you wrote all this because of a banner. It was something new we were trying to do and it didn't fit right nothing more then that.

anyway we will be adding a new banner to gfy without a drop down.

We have plenty of loyal webmasters and the banner was not intended to disable or make your posting experience difficult.

I hope you understand if not

This isn't all about a banner ... read the post again ... it's amazing how many people understood what I said and how the whole pornkings group didn't.

Carol@Pixipay · 12-16-2003, 06:19 PM

Quote:

This isn't all about a banner ... read the post again ... it's amazing how many people understood what I said and how the whole pornkings group didn't

I understood completely. I did not however understand your example where we were concerned, still don't.

Quote:

Both of these examples are exact reasons why there are many lawsuits going on now, why VISA is cutting the charge back rate to 1%, and why some of the processcors are gone today.

12-15-2003, 06:26 PM	#1
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	Who should follow the rules? In a time when the heavy hand is coming down on this industry it amazes me what the sponsors will do to get a signup from a webmaster. From the Pornkings banner on gfy that all but disables the choice of click on the "Fucking Around & Program Discussion" link. To QuickBucks or cough an affiliate cough registering a domain name that is a common mispelling of the gfy board itself. Personally and many of you could care less what I think but my opinion is these are really slime ball tactics for webmasters business. Both of these examples are exact reasons why there are many lawsuits going on now, why VISA is cutting the charge back rate to 1%, and why some of the processcors are gone today. Both of these examples are how the business has cheated the consumers by blocking thier back button and keeping them locked into a certain page, or redirecting them to somewhere they didn't want to be when they typed in a useful domain name wrong. While some sponsors are cleaning house and making sure they will be here for a long time to come. These are the examples of businesses that need to decieve the webmasters. If you cannot make your money or refferals in this business the right way then the writing is on the wall for you. It's time webmasters woke up to these tactics. Wake up and see whats going on around you. You think this is a mistake that the flash on the banner for Pornkings about disables the "Fucking Around & Program Discussion" link? You think it's a mistake QuickBucks has the wrong spelling of this board as a domain? NO!!! This is the kind of deception these company's know how to use. It's also the same reasons the hammer is falling now. WAKE THE FUCK UP! Did you really get more sales out of those tactics? Or did you piss off some people and get the ICQ warriors started up? I know I don't speak for myself when I say this so sponsors who care should listen: The webmasters are as sick of certain sponsors tactics as the surfers are! I know I have stopped promoting some sponsors that use these tactics because it only shows me those sponsors will step beyond the bounds and that tells me when they get caught I don't want them holding onto any of my money. You want loyal webmasters to push your programs? Make it worth thier while. Don't annoy them on the message boards that they hang out on to have fun by disabling shit they use, or putting god awful sounds that really doesn't appeal to them. Instead why doesn't a sponsor say "hey sales down for you? This is whats working for our affiliates... " and put out some real useful information affiliates can use. And what are the sponsors teaching thier affiliates when they make a banner using copyrighted songs and such? Will you cut my account if I spam your site to everybody at MicroSoft? Of course you will but your telling me your all for it and fuck the rules when you use a copyrighted song in your advertisements. Why is it ok for you to break the rules but then you shut off peoples income because they push the packet? Those of you with half a brain I expect you'll read this and understand what I am saying. The rest will flame me and thats ok too.

12-15-2003, 06:29 PM	#3
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	fuck them if people need to resort to shit to get a webmaster signup they should pack it up. just run a program that wont fuck your webmasters up the ass, and you will do ok, no need for the bullshit __________________

12-16-2003, 06:16 AM	#8
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	99% of paysite tours are deceptive about how good what's inside really is. Which ones do you send traffic to? __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

12-16-2003, 06:17 AM	#9
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	fuck rules __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

12-16-2003, 06:30 AM	#12
JustJen Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,233	JFPDude, do you not see the CLOSE X on the bottom left to close the scroll? Deceptive. No. Do you need glasses? Maybe. __________________ icq:175766581

12-15-2003, 06:27 PM	#2
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	You really have a problem with gofuckyourslef.com?

12-15-2003, 07:35 PM	#5
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	interesting

12-16-2003, 05:53 AM	#6
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	Lots of views and lots of ICQ's. Seems people agree but don't want to state it publicly.

12-16-2003, 06:14 AM	#7
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,114	Yes, that is all bad. But do you know what is the worst? The fucking yodeler! I don't even have a clue who it's a sponsor for, I always click refresh as soon as I can without looking at the banner.

12-16-2003, 06:35 AM	#15
JustJen Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,233	LOL. I don't think Lens and crew would allow us to fuck with his board do you??? Click on the CLOSE and you will be fine. Wow. Didn't know mouse movements were so difficult. __________________ icq:175766581

12-16-2003, 06:37 AM	#16
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	BTW Jen just to check my eyesight ... why is it the banner only folds down if your inside a thread and not on the main page? Great thought on the process ... still leads to decption if you ask me.

12-16-2003, 06:43 AM	#18
radical Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bonnie Scotland Posts: 2,876	I agree to no bullshit webmatsers get fucked around too much already __________________ ICQ: 166108967

12-16-2003, 06:47 AM	#20
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	Besides Jen you don't see it as fucking over Lensman and the other advertisers here? From what I know when I was going to buy a banner it was explained to me that I bought the space on size. So I guess your paying a lot more for that banner since you deceptively take up more room then whats said the banners can be?

12-16-2003, 06:59 AM	#24
johnbosh Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands, Rotterdam Posts: 8,965	lol @ stocktrader23

12-16-2003, 07:12 AM	#27
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	It's not the 1st, nor likely the the last interactive flash banner on GFY, but I think it's far from intrusive, because YOU have to click on it to even get to the point your complaining about?? __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

12-16-2003, 02:45 PM	#33
Carol@Pixipay I have traffic for sale Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,118	I wasn't going to post being I rarely do over here to begin but I really have to ask What exactly would be the benefit of our using the banner to make it difficult to post? I honestly do not understand the logic you've employed to reach that conclusion. Oh and Jen deceptive???? Give me a break that's just ridiculous.