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Old 02-06-2001, 01:49 PM   #1
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Dialers - The good , the bad & the ugly

I have been using EZdialer for a little over a month now. I don't get a payment from them until the 20th so I don't really know if they pay. Does anyone know about them?

Snow - Here's your chance to promote!

I've also heard of Nocreditcardneeded.com.

Any others?
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Old 02-06-2001, 02:27 PM   #2
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they are all ugly
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Old 02-06-2001, 02:59 PM   #3
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hahah.. mrcock, have you used dialer? Well, i have and they kick ass! only problem was that they were billing the surfer 8.99/minute to use it which is unnacceptable. Well, i stopped using a dialer when it started getting frowned upon for just this reason! Until now.... Ive just started using a dialer again and its kicking ass harder than ever before! And this dialer is not a ripoff for the surfer. its like 1.50/minute instead of 8.99/min like it used to be. And best of all, I still get paid the same .35/cents per minute! im doing over 300 min/day with very little traffic and its not taking away from my other banners etc.. since the surfer doesnt go anywhere! Ive got to say, its the best alternative billing method there is!

http://www.vipdialer.com


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Old 02-06-2001, 03:01 PM   #4
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Fucker, why are you hiding your refer code???
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Old 02-06-2001, 03:09 PM   #5
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cuz it shows my real name!
and it looks better too!

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Old 02-06-2001, 03:10 PM   #6
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LOL fair enough, I don't blame you.
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Old 02-06-2001, 03:30 PM   #7
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Isn't that Snow's dialer?

Ive been thinking about trying that one out too...Ive heard a lot of good things about it.
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Old 02-06-2001, 03:32 PM   #8
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Fucker - Vip only charges the customer a buck fitty? That's great! And what about the hold times?

I gotta get ahold of Snow...
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Old 02-06-2001, 03:35 PM   #9
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yes its snows dialer!

IM sorry i was wrong... not 1.63/min it is 2.99/min. Dont know what i was thinking about sorry for the confusion!

you still get .35 cents/min

hold times are 11 minutes for me today.

http://www.vipdialer.com


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Old 02-06-2001, 06:41 PM   #10
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As you all know the dialer industry made a bad name for itself cause of the damm verity case and FTC.

Let's paint a better picture in your head about what happened. Gib had a billing company called verity. Well these idiots were RE-directing calls to england,When they should have been going to Madagascar. Well this is what grabbed the FTC and they froze all assets to gib. Now Gib looks like the bad guy cause in that 15 million they froze assets, and alot of money owed to webmasters.. It also put my partner josh in a bad position cause he had to pay his webmasters.It really fucked everything up...

Things have changed. Gib will not front money anymore and Basically you have to wait longer to be paid, they need to cover there ass now so tyhey dont get hurt. They took a huge hit and it damaged there reputation. Well as you know I was with the biggest program going called Dialerprogram.com who was ran by a successful website owner. Well it all blew up cause of the ftc thing and i left. Weeks go by and i'm testing everyone NITELINE,DIALUP2, YOU name it,I came back to gib cause I trust them...And i feel they have the BEST stats and dialer. I had one guy promise me a contract and master stats and he could not do it. He promised me and promised me but it was all bullshit,Good thing i only sent him 20 clients of 800 people..

You can have master stats if you want to refer,I mean there stuff just worked better for me..

So I started Vipdialer.com with a partner. I also have another partner who handles payment and fronts a little money to make things smooth..

It's really hard to sell people when we pay monthly and I know this ,Especially coming from a program that paid WEEKLY,but you have to look at the positive from it...

Lets say you go with a dialer company that pays per country...
If you do alot of minutes from turkey basically you wont make shit cause you only get paid 2 cents on it. If i had a client that came to me and said hey snow i have 1000 min and 700 of it was turkey ,i will loose my ass. Thats why I make sure I talk to the person before i give him a dialer.

I can pay flat as long as I get some us uk and german minutes to compensate for the bad minutes. I dont make the profits on per country dialers so... I pay more but in the long run I make more cause more webmasters sign up.......

(Example)
I had a guy that did 7000 min in 2 weeks with a company I Wont mention. The check was for 1548 dollars. He got ripped big time But he got his money fast in 2 weeks.. These fuckers shave so hard that they have the funds to pay you every 2 weeks. We cant do that. You really have to build up the till in order to do that or shave the shit ut of these guys. The min we get wired BAM the checks are out....

If he was with me he would have made 2,450 but I pay 2 weeks later. So see thats the diff. You want your money quicker,you will be shaved up the ass..........

Im in my 3rd mo of Vip now and things look good. I'm a Damm finatic about payment.We get a few at the end of the mo who havent recieved maybe a mistake here and there. But when it comes to paying ,I think I'm pretty solid........

There still is huge money to be made in dialers. I have a gay rep who does strictly gay. I have a celeb rep who strictly does celeb... I have a black dialer as well and of course i have a dialer that gives everything......

I can also arrange for you to be a reseller,but only if you can bring in atleast 3000 min a day..

Also if your a paysite owner i can point the dialer to go anywhere you want for you own paysite. Like in the signup area if the dont have credit card you can say check out our site with a dialer and come back if you like it...

Another thing if the dialer ever blows up again, it will be US only. Foreign minutes will be here forever,So the future of the dialer is here to stay... Only things that will change is lower costs to the surfer and DSL dialer coming out... Hope my long ass story helped you with who i am and what i do...

Laterxx Snow http://www.vipdialer.com
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Old 02-06-2001, 10:40 PM   #11
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According to my broker, the sizzle dialers are only dialing in at 20%.. THe ones that dial into Vanatau.. Thats why the minutes are soo low, and they have been sucking lately. Are these the niteline dialers?
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Old 02-06-2001, 11:22 PM   #12
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<a href="http://www.wmmexe.com"> http://www.wmmexe.com </a>

These guys rock!! No referer code here..
They do not have as high payout per min
as some dialers, but they are very honest
and you are paid on time every 2 weeks!!

Also they even host pages for you to link
to from your sites like this:

<a href="http://www.pussyexe.com/tours/xpussies/?indy"> Click here </a>

Indy
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Hot Blondes TGP </a>



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Old 02-06-2001, 11:34 PM   #13
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Hey Indy! Nice to see ya here!
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Old 02-07-2001, 12:04 AM   #14
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why would you signup with a dialer that has a lesser payout? im sure the hold times are lesser also which is the key element here!

http://www.vipdialer.com

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Old 02-07-2001, 02:02 AM   #15
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hey indy your site doenst load. Also the guy you get your dialer from is a resseller.. Its the same damn dialer everyone else uses, nothing special.
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Old 02-07-2001, 02:11 AM   #16
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Boneprone, Snow - How do I find out if Ezdialeronline is a reseller or not? Hell, how do I find out if anyone is a reseller or not?

Gracias
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Old 02-07-2001, 02:19 AM   #17
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ez dialer is a type of dialer.. It is made and distributed to tons of resellers.. The key is to get your dialer from someone at the top, and snow is one of the guys at the top. But there are people under him, and people under them, and there are other dealers of the dialer, and people under them, and people under them, and people under them.. Its a total pyrmid, and most of these brokers are real shaddy people.. Usually your $$ that comes to you goes through the hands of the pyrmid before it gets to you also.. So the guy at the top who wants to pay you,pays the guy below him, who pays the guy below him, to pay the guy below him to finally pay you.. As it goes down the chain, everyone gets their cut of your minutes.. In addition, they are shaving yor minutes and taking a chunk of it also.. Ever notice that your $$ doenst add up to the minutes you did.. Thats if your lucky to even get a real stats page, it could be fake..

Best thing to do is go to the top, and not try new shit, go with the reputation, but the only thing is, the whole industry has one bad reputation..

This shit makes Amway look like a girlscout gig. Bunch of real shaddy people.
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Old 02-07-2001, 02:22 AM   #18
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Also you will find, the only people pushing or telling you really good things about a particular dialer are trying to get you to try a specific dialer to get you under them.. If they reconmend one to you to try, and give you someone to contact, chances are they already gave the contact the heads up that you are coming, so they can get you under them as a refferal for finding and convincing you. Its always one big fucking pyrmid.. Up there in Canada there are tons of brokers all dealing the same shit sizzle dialer.. Its all the same dialer, but you have such a huge web of brokers, its mindblowing tring to figure this shit out as to who is going through who, and who is shaving your minutes and pocketing it.

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Old 02-07-2001, 02:59 AM   #19
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All I can say guys is try me out... I Refuse to knock other dialer companies and sit here and say mine is the best... TEST ME OUT.. thats all i ask...

ANd yes I'm the top Seller of gib In England And NY WOO HOOO...


Keep in Mind the 2 biggest dialer companies are Gib And Niteline... You can check this by stats... All Gib stats are the same...
Snow http://www.vipdialer.com
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Old 02-07-2001, 03:11 AM   #20
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Snow, I'm gonna try ya out. After all, you are known around here so that's good enuf for me.
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Old 02-07-2001, 03:49 AM   #21
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Thanks Buddy
Compliments=Security
Security=Cashhhhhhhhhhhhhh


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Give a try to this one to please lol http://www.schoolporn.net/maxmin/
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Anyone heard anything about Dialer Dough? They've been low on minutes and I've noticed that my checks are not what they should be...but I do get paid though.

Snow,

I'll try your dialer and see what happens...
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Old 02-07-2001, 08:51 PM   #24
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Snow,

Tried your URL and got no page listed! What up?


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As you all know the dialer industry made a bad name for itself cause of the damm verity case and FTC.

Let's paint a better picture in your head about what happened. Gib had a billing


Laterxx Snow http://www.vipdialer.com
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Old 02-07-2001, 09:00 PM   #25
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dialers kick ass!! i double my earnings with them!!
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Old 02-07-2001, 09:39 PM   #26
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I agree blackcat.... i double what i make on credit cards with the dialer...

http://www.vipdialer.com

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Old 02-07-2001, 11:09 PM   #27
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www.vipdialer.com is back up.

Give it another try.
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Old 02-07-2001, 11:55 PM   #28
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Yeah we had some dns issues today were all good. We will be releasing some great stuff soon... Boneprone no one is under me. I work direct with gib bud. And nice to meet so many fresh faces. With 913 people on icq it sounds like a fucken machine gun when i fire it up........

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Mr Snow - Where ya at? Let me guess..you're working on my dialer right?
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Old 02-08-2001, 10:40 PM   #30
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Sent bro. I have the code designed ones now. The allow download on enter,Pretty cool...

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Snow - I still don't have it!
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Stangster can you please confirm with me if you have a dialer or not. Please email me at
[email protected].

Thanks bud..
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Old 02-11-2001, 10:47 PM   #33
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Hi there,
Im not trying to start anything or put anyones program down, but I've heard some "bad" things about EzDialeronline.
About Snow, I know he pays on time, Snow's a good dude in my book. But I've heard from several friends who are into this industry HEAVY and it didnt sound good.

Peace out
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Old 02-11-2001, 10:48 PM   #34
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That is about Ezdialeronline, Not about Snow, Snow Will Pay you, and you can count on that.
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Hey thank you bud,Can you tell me your experience about the other dialer company. Would be intresting?

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Whoa thats one hell of a bump there buddy

Over 2 years!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fucker
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http://www.vipdialer.com
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that domain doest'n work
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