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Old 02-06-2001, 06:41 PM  
SNOW
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As you all know the dialer industry made a bad name for itself cause of the damm verity case and FTC.

Let's paint a better picture in your head about what happened. Gib had a billing company called verity. Well these idiots were RE-directing calls to england,When they should have been going to Madagascar. Well this is what grabbed the FTC and they froze all assets to gib. Now Gib looks like the bad guy cause in that 15 million they froze assets, and alot of money owed to webmasters.. It also put my partner josh in a bad position cause he had to pay his webmasters.It really fucked everything up...

Things have changed. Gib will not front money anymore and Basically you have to wait longer to be paid, they need to cover there ass now so tyhey dont get hurt. They took a huge hit and it damaged there reputation. Well as you know I was with the biggest program going called Dialerprogram.com who was ran by a successful website owner. Well it all blew up cause of the ftc thing and i left. Weeks go by and i'm testing everyone NITELINE,DIALUP2, YOU name it,I came back to gib cause I trust them...And i feel they have the BEST stats and dialer. I had one guy promise me a contract and master stats and he could not do it. He promised me and promised me but it was all bullshit,Good thing i only sent him 20 clients of 800 people..

You can have master stats if you want to refer,I mean there stuff just worked better for me..

So I started Vipdialer.com with a partner. I also have another partner who handles payment and fronts a little money to make things smooth..

It's really hard to sell people when we pay monthly and I know this ,Especially coming from a program that paid WEEKLY,but you have to look at the positive from it...

Lets say you go with a dialer company that pays per country...
If you do alot of minutes from turkey basically you wont make shit cause you only get paid 2 cents on it. If i had a client that came to me and said hey snow i have 1000 min and 700 of it was turkey ,i will loose my ass. Thats why I make sure I talk to the person before i give him a dialer.

I can pay flat as long as I get some us uk and german minutes to compensate for the bad minutes. I dont make the profits on per country dialers so... I pay more but in the long run I make more cause more webmasters sign up.......

(Example)
I had a guy that did 7000 min in 2 weeks with a company I Wont mention. The check was for 1548 dollars. He got ripped big time But he got his money fast in 2 weeks.. These fuckers shave so hard that they have the funds to pay you every 2 weeks. We cant do that. You really have to build up the till in order to do that or shave the shit ut of these guys. The min we get wired BAM the checks are out....

If he was with me he would have made 2,450 but I pay 2 weeks later. So see thats the diff. You want your money quicker,you will be shaved up the ass..........

Im in my 3rd mo of Vip now and things look good. I'm a Damm finatic about payment.We get a few at the end of the mo who havent recieved maybe a mistake here and there. But when it comes to paying ,I think I'm pretty solid........

There still is huge money to be made in dialers. I have a gay rep who does strictly gay. I have a celeb rep who strictly does celeb... I have a black dialer as well and of course i have a dialer that gives everything......

I can also arrange for you to be a reseller,but only if you can bring in atleast 3000 min a day..

Also if your a paysite owner i can point the dialer to go anywhere you want for you own paysite. Like in the signup area if the dont have credit card you can say check out our site with a dialer and come back if you like it...

Another thing if the dialer ever blows up again, it will be US only. Foreign minutes will be here forever,So the future of the dialer is here to stay... Only things that will change is lower costs to the surfer and DSL dialer coming out... Hope my long ass story helped you with who i am and what i do...

Laterxx Snow http://www.vipdialer.com
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