USD is down. Would you pay in Euro ? - GoFuckYourself.com

margarita · 12-10-2003, 06:16 AM

US $ is going down. European webmasters are loosing money when they are paid in USD.
Would you pay for any services in this biz in Euros ?
Do you feel better when paying 100 euro, or $122 ?

margarita · 12-10-2003, 06:57 AM

Seems that it's still too soon for US folks

quiet · 12-10-2003, 06:59 AM

blows for Canadians too.

johnbosh · 12-10-2003, 07:09 AM

would be better:D ars should do it:D

margarita · 12-10-2003, 07:11 AM

I totally forgot that there are some Canadians

LOL

lakeview · 12-10-2003, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
blows for Canadians too.

why does it suck for canadians? youre getting paid more than americans.

margarita · 12-10-2003, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lakeview

why does it suck for canadians? youre getting paid more than americans.

I don't know how the canadian $ is doing, but if it's not going down faster than USD, it's bad for canadians too, like for europeans

quiet · 12-10-2003, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lakeview

why does it suck for canadians? youre getting paid more than americans.

a 100K USD wire is worth over 30K less than it was a couple of years ago. two wires a month, and you're out well over 60K CAD+ A MONTH, purely on exchange rate. that's why.

hostey_com · 12-10-2003, 07:25 AM

Who gets all the wire fees?

rooster · 12-10-2003, 07:27 AM

solution, stop making 95% of your money off us 'dumb americans'

Ross · 12-10-2003, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

a 100K USD wire is worth over 30K less than it was a couple of years ago. two wires a month, and you're out well over 60K CAD+ A MONTH, purely on exchange rate. that's why.

Yeah that would suck balls.

Same with us and The £. Cashing $40K we loose £3000

ortika · 12-10-2003, 07:38 AM

In europe you lost 1/4

cash 4000$ you will get 3000?

And it will go down again and again ! Bush wants a shitty dollars to have good results for election !

It's really bad to have a predisent like that
We can hope a bad president in all our countries in euorpe and the euro will go down too

Trax · 12-10-2003, 07:44 AM

its only getting worse guys
if you watch the stock market
goldman sachs says we will go above 1.30 for sure
even worse
they said that a year ago
give it some more time guys
you will see we will break this point

creamycherries · 12-10-2003, 07:51 AM

yea, sucks for EU webmasters for sure. They should come up with something for them

margarita · 12-10-2003, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
its only getting worse guys
if you watch the stock market
goldman sachs says we will go above 1.30 for sure
even worse
they said that a year ago
give it some more time guys
you will see we will break this point

don't say this man

richard · 12-10-2003, 07:56 AM

Why should sponsors do this?

Surely they generate US$ sales, so if they convert that into Euro at a rate lower than the market then they are the ones losing money?

margarita · 12-10-2003, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by richard
Why should sponsors do this?

Surely they generate US$ sales, so if they convert that into Euro at a rate lower than the market then they are the ones losing money?

I'm not talking about sponsor.
It's about european service providers.
For example paying for content,software,traffic, ... etc

ortika · 12-10-2003, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by creamycherries
yea, sucks for EU webmasters for sure. They should come up with something for them

I like comments like that

USA will be more poor than Africa AHAHAHHA
... or they must stay in USA to be rich ! Yes i think bush it's ok for

richard · 12-10-2003, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by margarita

I'm not talking about sponsor.
It's about european service providers.
For example paying for content,software,traffic, ... etc

Doesn't the current situation make US exports (ie design, hosting, content) cheaper now?

Personally, i can see the current rates as beneficial for me, as i am focusing on revenue streams that are non US$ (ie Euro + £); my margins are getting better

adjektiv · 12-10-2003, 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by ortika

I like comments like that

USA will be more poor than Africa AHAHAHHA
... or they must stay in USA to be rich ! Yes i think bush it's ok for

You should stop accepting dollars from the poor Americans and switch to the Euro ASAP! Americans don't have Internet access in their mud huts anyway.

It's funny that the only ones who care about the dollar being low are the Europeans. I hope it keeps going lower.

You want to talk shit about America but keep making all your money off of us. You get what you deserve.

Reak · 12-10-2003, 08:29 AM

lets keep the prices in dollars

ortika · 12-10-2003, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by adjektiv

You should stop accepting dollars from the poor Americans and switch to the Euro ASAP! Americans don't have Internet access in their mud huts anyway.

It's funny that the only ones who care about the dollar being low are the Europeans. I hope it keeps going lower.

You want to talk shit about America but keep making all your money off of us. You get what you deserve.

i love amercians but i hate your president ...
everyone can be happy with euro a 0.9-1.1 ... but bush it's not ok for..

12clicks · 12-10-2003, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ortika

i love amercians but i hate your president ...

does the elephant care what the flea on his ass thinks?

Cirrus · 12-10-2003, 09:00 AM

but what is the solution to this?

keep the money in USD and wait?
short position at Forex?

Holly · 12-10-2003, 09:19 AM

Special GFY Christmas USA Citizenship offer - This month only, I'll marry any non-resident for $100 dollars. Hurry! Only three left!!

(sorry, USD only)

Ron2k1 · 12-10-2003, 10:35 AM

One day it will recover, it always does

JamesK · 12-10-2003, 10:47 AM

it eats my money. 20-40% loss (1 euro was 0.8 dollar a few years ago)

Gemini · 12-10-2003, 11:06 AM

LMAO Holly, you *know* you'll have to learn their native tongues don'tcha? It's obvious some of these guys use a translator to post... and are too lazy to learn Anglais`.

Ludedude · 12-10-2003, 11:59 AM

Here's a good solution. Why not stop whining and start charging in Euros? Go ahead. You don't need the evil dollar. There are plenty of EU people buying memberships right? What do you need the US consumer for anyway? It's not like we have any money to spend

dig420 · 12-10-2003, 01:16 PM

Somebody might have already mentioned this as I got glassy-eyed halfway down the thread BUT:

We as webmasters deal in US dollars, that's what the surfers have. How in the hell could we pay in currency trading higher than the dollar without losing our asses?

rowan · 12-10-2003, 01:24 PM

I'm from Australia which has similar probs. I look at it this way:

2001:
$USD10000 @0.49 = $AUD20408.16

convert it back in 2003 (now):
$AUD2040.81 @0.73 = $USD14897.96 (+48.9%)

That's an effective gain of more than 20% p/a. Great if you're investing in AUD, but I live off AUD so that means I'm LOSING that! I work harder so my USD income is rising each month, but at the end of the day the amount of AUD coming into my bank account barely changes. If it starts going backwards (with my USD income still rising) then it's time to get a haircut, and get a real job.

Elli · 12-10-2003, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adjektiv

It's funny that the only ones who care about the dollar being low are the Europeans. I hope it keeps going lower.

You want to talk shit about America but keep making all your money off of us. You get what you deserve.

That's not the point. If a German buys a membership to a site, it's translated into USD at the processor. Then the processor pays OUT USD to its clients. It doesn't matter where the traffic originates from, unless you deal with a non-American processor.

Who is talking shit about America? We're talking about your dollar falling, which is absolute fact.

I remember when the dollar was 1.71 to Canadian dollars. Now it's 1.28 at the bank, and 1.25 on my Cdn credit card. I try to keep as much in USD as possible, hoping to average out my loss, but the dollar hasn't recovered yet, so there's not much averaging going on in the positive direction. Feels like the bloody nasdaq.

Now see? I didn't mention His Lord High Excellency Bush at all

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12-10-2003, 06:16 AM	#1
margarita Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 917	USD is down. Would you pay in Euro ? US $ is going down. European webmasters are loosing money when they are paid in USD. Would you pay for any services in this biz in Euros ? Do you feel better when paying 100 euro, or $122 ? __________________ Check out my favourite kinky sponsor and must-have tool Nifty Stats

12-10-2003, 06:57 AM	#2
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12-10-2003, 06:59 AM	#3
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12-10-2003, 07:27 AM	#10
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12-10-2003, 07:38 AM	#12
ortika Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 146	In europe you lost 1/4 cash 4000$ you will get 3000? And it will go down again and again ! Bush wants a shitty dollars to have good results for election ! It's really bad to have a predisent like that We can hope a bad president in all our countries in euorpe and the euro will go down too

12-10-2003, 07:44 AM	#13
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	its only getting worse guys if you watch the stock market goldman sachs says we will go above 1.30 for sure even worse they said that a year ago give it some more time guys you will see we will break this point

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creamycherries Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington Posts: 135	yea, sucks for EU webmasters for sure. They should come up with something for them

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12-10-2003, 11:59 AM	#29
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12-10-2003, 01:16 PM	#30
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Somebody might have already mentioned this as I got glassy-eyed halfway down the thread BUT: We as webmasters deal in US dollars, that's what the surfers have. How in the hell could we pay in currency trading higher than the dollar without losing our asses?

12-10-2003, 01:24 PM	#31
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I'm from Australia which has similar probs. I look at it this way: 2001: $USD10000 @0.49 = $AUD20408.16 convert it back in 2003 (now): $AUD2040.81 @0.73 = $USD14897.96 (+48.9%) That's an effective gain of more than 20% p/a. Great if you're investing in AUD, but I live off AUD so that means I'm LOSING that! I work harder so my USD income is rising each month, but at the end of the day the amount of AUD coming into my bank account barely changes. If it starts going backwards (with my USD income still rising) then it's time to get a haircut, and get a real job.