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Old 12-09-2003, 09:42 PM   #1
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PiBCash busted in their own response

Sixpack just posted his response and posted what he claims is the fake and the real screenshots but as you can clearly see... the payout is LOWER than what was actually brought in... and the DIFF column is still there to show how much PiBCash profited off of it!!

Here they are again, hosted on my site just to make sure they don't go and change it.



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Old 12-09-2003, 09:45 PM   #2
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Where did you get that new screen shot?

I cant see much reason not to believe now

Damm *head down*
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Old 12-09-2003, 09:47 PM   #3
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Old 12-09-2003, 09:47 PM   #4
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Where did you get that new screen shot?

I cant see much reason not to believe now

Damm *head down*
They are both the screen shots that sixpack posted in his response.
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Old 12-09-2003, 09:48 PM   #5
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Old 12-09-2003, 09:48 PM   #6
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Yep... from sixpack.
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:17 PM   #7
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The way I read this is affiliate 00 brought in 1 join of $39.87 and they paid affiliate $35.00, so PIB made $4.87 profit.

Am I missing something here?
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:19 PM   #8
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:20 PM   #9
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Am I missing something here?
Yup, all the other screen caps showing that this is not the case, nor is the excuse that sixpack gave.
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:20 PM   #10
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The way I read this is affiliate 00 brought in 1 join of $39.87 and they paid affiliate $35.00, so PIB made $4.87 profit.

Am I missing something here?
No your not... this guys a moron.


But they still shave.



Nothing to see here... Move along.
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:20 PM   #11
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:21 PM   #12
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The way I read this is affiliate 00 brought in 1 join of $39.87 and they paid affiliate $35.00, so PIB made $4.87 profit.
I don't think you missed anything thats right just some just want so bad.
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:21 PM   #13
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The way I read this is affiliate 00 brought in 1 join of $39.87 and they paid affiliate $35.00, so PIB made $4.87 profit.

Am I missing something here?
thats how i read it as well... obviously every program needs to know if their affiliates are making or losing them money...
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:22 PM   #14
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The way I read this is affiliate 00 brought in 1 join of $39.87 and they paid affiliate $35.00, so PIB made $4.87 profit.

Am I missing something here?
That's exactly how I understood it. Usually nothing would be wrong with something like that, but can affiliate programs really pinpoint the exact amount someone earns them (including consoles, etc)?
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:33 PM   #15
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Ummm, correct me if I am wrong, but the payout is $35, and the membership is $39.whatever and the diff would actually be the profit they made, right?
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:33 PM   #16
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Yes we can see everything as they come in dumps every 15 minutes or so from epoch, we are alos installing addtional software that does audits of all accounts so You know you are not getting shave by an out side company.
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:38 PM   #17
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Old 12-09-2003, 11:50 PM   #18
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WTF are you talking about? It shows one join, and a payout of $35. That member spent a total of $39.87, so they made $4.87 profit. Are you simple or something?
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:02 AM   #19
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WTF are you talking about? It shows one join, and a payout of $35. That member spent a total of $39.87, so they made $4.87 profit. Are you simple or something?
15% of $39.87 for overhead is 5.98...This is a conservative number when you consider hosting, content, and processing fees.

The way I see it.....4.87-5.98 = -1.11

Profit you say?

This is where rebills, upsells, cross sales, and popups kick in.
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:10 AM   #20
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I hope the fuckers at pibcash go to jail
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:14 AM   #21
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actually, its easy to understand:

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These are or can be running totals for the day, say some one had a sale last month and the rebilled today - and the webmaster had no sales today the "brought" would show the amount of the rebill. if on the other hand the guy charged back last months sale it would show a neg for that amount.
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If you check the stats posted in other threads.. you'll see that the joins /shown joins doesnt translate into Payout/ brought
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:21 AM   #22
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I hope the fuckers at pibcash go to jail
anybody that says that should goto jail. it's no place for anybody human no matter what they have done. but hey you don't care le t them eat only twice a day which is only bread.. fuck them.. they only made a mistake in this "world" where the rules were set by some president (which is probably all staged shit for elections).. the world is a sim city game we should all just say fuck it.. why not? le'ts all trip out and kill each other and start amageddeon
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:28 AM   #23
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Another thread? *yawn*... someone put a hold on things a few hours.
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:29 AM   #24
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Yes we can see everything as they come in dumps every 15 minutes or so from epoch, we are alos installing addtional software that does audits of all accounts so You know you are not getting shave by an out side company.
You are only doing that now as part of the coverup....PIB was busted and thats the bottom line, none of this BS your spewing is going to change that fact.....
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:32 AM   #25
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and the DIFF column is still there to show how much PiBCash profited off of it!!
What are you trying to insinuate? That the payout should equal the brought... You're dreaming son! The only reason they can afford to pay 35$ a membership is so that they can make profit when someone bills for 39.87$ and they keep the difference..

They're taking the risk of the person possibily not signing up and then they are out 35$ after paying you! Its only fair they make a profit on rebills for taking the initial risk. They are not going to come back to you after a month and tell you "YO!, the person charged back give us our 35$ back please". This is simple concept to even the newest of the newbs.. Judging by your post count, I might be wrong in saying that .

I'm not siding with them either though (don't get me wrong), this is just going along with sixpack's respective posted response.
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What are you trying to insinuate? That the payout should equal the brought... You're dreaming son! The only reason they can afford to pay 35$ a membership is so that they can make profit when someone bills for 39.87$ and they keep the difference..

They're taking the risk of the person possibily not signing up and then they are out 35$ after paying you! Its only fair they make a profit on rebills for taking the initial risk. They are not going to come back to you after a month and tell you "YO!, the person charged back give us our 35$ back please". This is simple concept to even the newest of the newbs.. Judging by your post count, I might be wrong in saying that .

I'm not siding with them either though (don't get me wrong), this is just going along with sixpack's respective posted response.
Ive heard it all now. Go back to your old nick
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:36 AM   #27
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Ive heard it all now. Go back to your old nick
I'm actually a new user to the board (i've been lurking for a while, and did my reading on these PIBcash accusations) ... but thanks for the warm welcome
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