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$5 submissions · 12-08-2003, 03:25 PM

Seems like most webmasters are concerned with layout. But it's TEXT that closes the deal. How much time and effort do you put into text writing?

xanx · 12-08-2003, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
Seems like most webmasters are concerned with layout. But it's TEXT that closes the deal. How much time and effort do you put into text writing?

I do SEO work so a lot

HarlotCash Dyker · 12-08-2003, 03:27 PM

Text is more important to some surfers and images mean everything to others - You really have to try and put the two together together -

Jon · 12-08-2003, 03:28 PM

In SEO, a shitload.

$5 submissions · 12-08-2003, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
Text is more important to some surfers and images mean everything to others - You really have to try and put the two together together -

Good point. But I often think that the graphics OPENS the possibility of a buy, but the text CLOSES the buy. If people were closed by graphics you'd have graphics only sites with very minimal text... I don't see much of these. For a good reason, I suspect.

Gemini · 12-08-2003, 03:37 PM

Someone must have been born in a spam can.

$5 submissions · 12-08-2003, 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by Gemini
Someone must have been born in a spam can.

How is that morning cup of Haterade?

Rorschach · 12-08-2003, 04:10 PM

I find text more interesting to work with than pics/graphics, so lots.

- Jesus Christ - · 12-08-2003, 04:10 PM

AdWords wont allow me to put pictures in.

Gemini · 12-08-2003, 04:11 PM

Haterade? lmao I don't hate you. If I did, you'd be the last one to know it. ;-) I just think you're nothing but a spammer.

$5 submissions · 12-08-2003, 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by Rorschach
I find text more interesting to work with than pics/graphics, so lots.

Plus they convert better

xdcdave · 12-08-2003, 04:25 PM

hey what happened to your idea of compiling a database of hosted galleries with descriptions and thumbs?

$5 submissions · 12-08-2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Gemini
Haterade? lmao I don't hate you. If I did, you'd be the last one to know it. ;-) I just think you're nothing but a spammer.

Nothing but a spammer... that's hate, corky! I thought I was a writer than can write articles, site text, and other promotional materials for $5 or less. Although it's probably going to be hard, I'll try to live my life without your respect. I know, it's almost impossible... but I'll try.

$5 submissions · 12-08-2003, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by xdcdave
hey what happened to your idea of compiling a database of hosted galleries with descriptions and thumbs?

We're pounding out the cheap descriptions. Major announcement coming soon.

titmowse · 12-08-2003, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
How much time and effort do you put into text writing?

more than five dollars worth

Rorschach · 12-08-2003, 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by titmowse

more than five dollars worth

lol

- AFN - · 12-29-2003, 11:39 PM

Site text is definitely the MOST important element to a design.

While the picture and the layout FRAME the message, the message CORE is still with the text. It is the CALL TO ACTION that makes it happen.

candyflip · 12-29-2003, 11:49 PM

I try to put just as much thought into the text as I do into the fancy. and not so fancy, graphic images. I'm focusing specifically on galleries at the moment, so the sell to the surfer is very important. I try to keep in line with the text on the site I'm promoting. It's my belief that keeping uniformity there will only help boost sales.

Getting the surfer worked up and interested in what you have to offer is just as important as what you have to offer

Phoenix · 12-29-2003, 11:50 PM

text really helps

you can really gt and keep their attention.

painting a picture with some properly placed text will certainly increase your conversions

basschick · 12-30-2003, 02:11 AM

text is very important to everything i do.

flashfire · 12-30-2003, 02:31 AM

I agree that text closes the deal, text links convert better than banners for me if the right words are used

TheEnforcer · 12-30-2003, 02:41 AM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
Seems like most webmasters are concerned with layout. But it's TEXT that closes the deal.

iwantchixx · 12-30-2003, 02:48 AM

Put shitloads of thought into text. Not just the words itself but how they are presented. If you have an eye catching phrase to pass unto the surfer slam it at them with a nice size 5 font in bold arial black of comic sans ms in a color that contrasts highly with the background color. Then underneath in a smaller font at default head parameter font color and default font family hit them with details. Then underneath have the "CLick Here BLAH BLAH BLAH" shit in a totaly different color and bolded comic sans size 4.

Sounds complicated and retarted but god damn.... it works!

iwantchixx · 12-30-2003, 02:52 AM

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Originally posted by Gemini
Haterade? lmao I don't hate you. If I did, you'd be the last one to know it. ;-) I just think you're nothing but a spammer.

If so he's a spammer everyone loves. Nothing but inspiring stuff spewing out of his fingers on here. Rarely do I ever see anything from him non industry related. Definately a hard worker too.

Trax · 12-30-2003, 02:55 AM

text is indeed very important

$5 msg me on icq please
wanna make you some money ;)

Meloman · 12-30-2003, 03:06 AM

I personaly love text. Graphics are too slow loading and take time.

Text always converts the best for me.

JDog · 12-30-2003, 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions

Good point. But I often think that the graphics OPENS the possibility of a buy, but the text CLOSES the buy. If people were closed by graphics you'd have graphics only sites with very minimal text... I don't see much of these. For a good reason, I suspect.

If you're talking a paysite, I believe the same! The sponser/paysite has to have good text on their site, the graphics open the deal, but the text lets the potential customers know what they are getting into, and it's helps them feel better about paying for it! If you have no text, you have no way telling the customers that there are X amount of movies/pics in the site! I believe that text is a vital part of any deal!

Just like us webmasters buying a program! You can't just look at screen shots of AutoGalleryPro, or screenshots of AdultDevil products, because you WANT/NEED to know what is coming along with the package! That's my

jDoG

- AFN - · 12-30-2003, 05:29 AM

I try to spend as much time possible revising text. Its quite a hard job when you think about it. Has to be short, concise, to the point, yet also be appealing and evocative.

chemicaleyes · 12-30-2003, 06:10 AM

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Originally posted by - AFN -
Site text is definitely the MOST important element to a design.

agreed

eroswebmaster · 12-30-2003, 06:21 AM

as has been posted above both are important.

You can have some nice text but if your layout draws them away from that then you can miss closing the deal

you're creating a cake here..there isn't one ingredient that is more important than the other..they are all combined to create a finished product that you hope tastes good.

Sarah_Jayne · 12-30-2003, 06:57 AM

a good deal...especially as I work with sub niches/real fetishes it is really good search engine food plus there are words and phrases that a person with a particular fetish are waiting to read before they sign up.

strobi · 12-30-2003, 07:20 AM

use images to lure them in and use text to close the sale

I'm a freak at both.

Weppel · 12-30-2003, 07:24 AM

I'm trying to spend some good time on the text, but i'm not nearly as good as most people here. Seems like i don't have the touch yet

hornycash · 12-30-2003, 07:26 AM

i think the text is more omportant than the graphics

Jarmusch · 12-30-2003, 07:50 AM

I spend alot of time trying to make a good catchy sales pitch. The lenght of the text is very important. Make it too short like 'Click Here' and you won't be able to describe what the surfer will see when he arrives at the sponsor page. Make it too long and he will get bored and won't read the whole thing and go away. The most important thing is to describe what the surfer will see when he arrives at the 1st tour page of the sponsor. The 1st impression is always the most important. If he gets horny and interested reading your sexy text phrase and finds exactly what he was imagining at the 1st sponsor tour page, he'll be sold immediately.

- AFN - · 12-30-2003, 04:53 PM

There's definitely an art to it.

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Originally posted by Jarmusch
I spend alot of time trying to make a good catchy sales pitch. The lenght of the text is very important. Make it too short like 'Click Here' and you won't be able to describe what the surfer will see when he arrives at the sponsor page. Make it too long and he will get bored and won't read the whole thing and go away. The most important thing is to describe what the surfer will see when he arrives at the 1st tour page of the sponsor. The 1st impression is always the most important. If he gets horny and interested reading your sexy text phrase and finds exactly what he was imagining at the 1st sponsor tour page, he'll be sold immediately.

reynold · 12-31-2003, 02:03 PM

I spend most of my time on the text. Design is pretty much hit and miss and can be tweaked. But text is the soul of any page.

Mr. Marks · 01-03-2004, 10:31 PM

Graphics...when it comes to movies. Difference between 1 sale a day and 30 sales. Just my

$5 submissions · 01-04-2004, 01:54 PM

The next important thing to discuss re text... what is more effective...text on graphics or plain text. My bet would be for the latter. However, text does need some graphic "eye catchers" to fully maximize its efficacy.

Raven · 01-04-2004, 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
Seems like most webmasters are concerned with layout. But it's TEXT that closes the deal. How much time and effort do you put into text writing?

Quite a bit, actually.

Gotta have balance...between the layout, the graphics and the text.....

$5 submissions · 01-04-2004, 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by Raven

Quite a bit, actually.

Gotta have balance...between the layout, the graphics and the text.....

I agree. Plus study the 'formulas" between text/content/layout and particular traffic sources

Vitasoy · 01-04-2004, 09:40 PM

I usually use the text what the sponsor I'm promoting :-)

$5 submissions · 01-04-2004, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by Weppel
I'm trying to spend some good time on the text, but i'm not nearly as good as most people here. Seems like i don't have the touch yet

Here's a tip:

Study the sponsor and answer these questions:

What is the offer?
What's so different about the offer?
How do they deliver or make good on the offer?

Now take your notes and boil it down to WHAT are the surfers' needs and plug in the answers that you got from your research.

Now write out the answers and keep boiling it down using catch phrases. It must be IMMEDIATE and IN YOUR FACE and

Has a "call to action"

Mr. Marks · 01-05-2004, 01:23 AM

Hehehehee you post the most informative shit. Informative enough for me to rip from. THANKS FOR THE TIPS!

keep em coming!

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Originally posted by $5 submissions

Here's a tip:

Study the sponsor and answer these questions:

What is the offer?
What's so different about the offer?
How do they deliver or make good on the offer?

Now take your notes and boil it down to WHAT are the surfers' needs and plug in the answers that you got from your research.

Now write out the answers and keep boiling it down using catch phrases. It must be IMMEDIATE and IN YOUR FACE and

Has a "call to action"

Mr. Marks · 01-05-2004, 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
The next important thing to discuss re text... what is more effective...text on graphics or plain text. My bet would be for the latter. However, text does need some graphic "eye catchers" to fully maximize its efficacy.

I remember making some $$$ off plain text with flashing arrows.

pornstar2pac · 01-05-2004, 05:26 AM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
Seems like most webmasters are concerned with layout. But it's TEXT that closes the deal. How much time and effort do you put into text writing?

my cut & paste text clicks are up 88% tonight

Mr. Marks · 01-05-2004, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by pornstar2pac

my cut & paste text clicks are up 88% tonight

hehehe cut and paste... 2 funny 2pac

- AFN - · 01-05-2004, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by pornstar2pac

my cut & paste text clicks are up 88% tonight

Problem with the pirate approach is how do you know a particular site's text links convert as opposed to another text site?

reynold · 01-07-2004, 08:14 PM

Is this related to your thread earlier re TGP gallery tracking and statistical "modeling"?

Oracle Porn · 01-07-2004, 08:22 PM

12-08-2003, 03:25 PM	#1
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Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Haterade? lmao I don't hate you. If I did, you'd be the last one to know it. ;-) I just think you're nothing but a spammer. __________________ <center><a target="_blank" href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac"><img border="0" src="http://216.130.172.224/gfy/gsig.gif" width="490" height="100"></a><br><a href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac" target="_blank"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#FF99FF"> Buy me away from Slavedriver Smokey!<br>It's May Sig Sweeps!<font></b></center>

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xdcdave Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: North East Posts: 1,911	hey what happened to your idea of compiling a database of hosted galleries with descriptions and thumbs? __________________

12-29-2003, 11:39 PM	#17
- AFN - Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NYC Baaaabeee Posts: 3,101	Site text is definitely the MOST important element to a design. While the picture and the layout FRAME the message, the message CORE is still with the text. It is the CALL TO ACTION that makes it happen. __________________ cat cash* \| tr -d '\r' \| tr -s '/n' > money

12-29-2003, 11:49 PM	#18
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	I try to put just as much thought into the text as I do into the fancy. and not so fancy, graphic images. I'm focusing specifically on galleries at the moment, so the sell to the surfer is very important. I try to keep in line with the text on the site I'm promoting. It's my belief that keeping uniformity there will only help boost sales. Getting the surfer worked up and interested in what you have to offer is just as important as what you have to offer __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

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Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,462	text really helps you can really gt and keep their attention. painting a picture with some properly placed text will certainly increase your conversions __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

12-30-2003, 02:11 AM	#20
basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	text is very important to everything i do. __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

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flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	I agree that text closes the deal, text links convert better than banners for me if the right words are used

12-30-2003, 02:48 AM	#23
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	Put shitloads of thought into text. Not just the words itself but how they are presented. If you have an eye catching phrase to pass unto the surfer slam it at them with a nice size 5 font in bold arial black of comic sans ms in a color that contrasts highly with the background color. Then underneath in a smaller font at default head parameter font color and default font family hit them with details. Then underneath have the "CLick Here BLAH BLAH BLAH" shit in a totaly different color and bolded comic sans size 4. Sounds complicated and retarted but god damn.... it works!

12-30-2003, 02:55 AM	#25
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	text is indeed very important $5 msg me on icq please wanna make you some money ;)

12-30-2003, 03:06 AM	#26
Meloman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 1,540	I personaly love text. Graphics are too slow loading and take time. Text always converts the best for me.

12-30-2003, 05:29 AM	#28
- AFN - Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NYC Baaaabeee Posts: 3,101	I try to spend as much time possible revising text. Its quite a hard job when you think about it. Has to be short, concise, to the point, yet also be appealing and evocative. __________________ cat cash* \| tr -d '\r' \| tr -s '/n' > money

12-30-2003, 06:21 AM	#30
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	as has been posted above both are important. You can have some nice text but if your layout draws them away from that then you can miss closing the deal you're creating a cake here..there isn't one ingredient that is more important than the other..they are all combined to create a finished product that you hope tastes good. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details

12-30-2003, 06:57 AM	#31
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	a good deal...especially as I work with sub niches/real fetishes it is really good search engine food plus there are words and phrases that a person with a particular fetish are waiting to read before they sign up.

12-30-2003, 07:20 AM	#32
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	use images to lure them in and use text to close the sale I'm a freak at both.

12-30-2003, 07:24 AM	#33
Weppel Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,190	I'm trying to spend some good time on the text, but i'm not nearly as good as most people here. Seems like i don't have the touch yet

12-30-2003, 07:26 AM	#34
hornycash Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: far beyond reality Posts: 2,336	i think the text is more omportant than the graphics

12-30-2003, 07:50 AM	#35
Jarmusch Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 12,464	I spend alot of time trying to make a good catchy sales pitch. The lenght of the text is very important. Make it too short like 'Click Here' and you won't be able to describe what the surfer will see when he arrives at the sponsor page. Make it too long and he will get bored and won't read the whole thing and go away. The most important thing is to describe what the surfer will see when he arrives at the 1st tour page of the sponsor. The 1st impression is always the most important. If he gets horny and interested reading your sexy text phrase and finds exactly what he was imagining at the 1st sponsor tour page, he'll be sold immediately.

12-31-2003, 02:03 PM	#37
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	I spend most of my time on the text. Design is pretty much hit and miss and can be tweaked. But text is the soul of any page.

01-03-2004, 10:31 PM	#38
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	Graphics...when it comes to movies. Difference between 1 sale a day and 30 sales. Just my

01-04-2004, 01:54 PM	#39
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	The next important thing to discuss re text... what is more effective...text on graphics or plain text. My bet would be for the latter. However, text does need some graphic "eye catchers" to fully maximize its efficacy. __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

01-04-2004, 09:40 PM	#42
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	I usually use the text what the sponsor I'm promoting :-) __________________ [email protected]

01-07-2004, 08:14 PM	#49
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	Is this related to your thread earlier re TGP gallery tracking and statistical "modeling"?

01-07-2004, 08:22 PM	#50
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