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Old 12-08-2003, 01:54 PM   #1
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CumSensei´s guide to make a few bucks. (grab a beer and read)

I see alot of new cummers dropping in latley here at gofuckyourself.com and that´s cool to see. Also alot of you new guys asks the same questions. So the all mighty CumSensei have made a small school on how to get started right when you move on to make it in this bizz.

These ideas might not be the best ones for everyone but they sure have worked out for me. And I learned them all by myselfe by making misstakes on the way.

I will talk about 2 things here.
TGP´s or CJ2 site like some people prefer to call them.
And gallery posting to tgps.
These are the 2 things I work with and I know there are others here that works with AVS and such and maby they can fill in and help out.

TGP OR CJ2:
I have had my only tgp up for over 3 years now and its www.cumdojo.com .
Here are a few things to think about when you start a tgp.

1. CHOOSE A NICHE:
The making of a tgp or a CJ2 site is all about finding good targeted traffic to send to your own sponsors. The best way to do this is to find a niche and stick to it. I make facials but any niche will do. Like teen, mature, big tits. Well you get the idea.

Why not make a mainstream tgp with all categories?
Well this make alot of traffic but its hard to target your sponsors to the right traffic. When you do a niche tgp you will have less traffic but the traffic will be better quality for your sponsors and that means more signups and less band with bills = more profit.

Make the niche something you enjoy working with because this will make it more easy to get a good profit.

So find a niche and stick to it!

2. THE DESIGN:
The design of the site is at first to be surfer friendly. You want to build up good traffic so dont put up 100 banners and shit in the beginning. Make the surfer see the links to galleries and make him click. Today almost all trades are made about productivity and this means your trades see how many times the visitors you send him clicks on his site and send you visitors back to you according to this.
Example: You send a trade 1 surfer, he clicks 4 times then his productivity is 400%.

So remember to begin with the design shall be clean and fast loading untill you got the surfers cumming back to your site.
The surfers that come back to your site alot is called bookmarkers. These are important to have because they will help your site to grow fast and most likley click like maniacs on your site.

Toplists are good to have to get visible links to your trades. If you use only blindlinks your productivity might get low on the other end of your trade. So put up a few visible links to your trades.

3. THE SPONSORS:
Choosing a sponsor can be hard. The best way if you are realy new to this is to ask around on boards and get some feedback on the ones you think will work. But there are lots of dirty guys out there that rippes off webmasters so be sure the sponsor is good before you use it.

When choosing a sponsor just dont look at all the things they promice you that you will get.
Look at there sites, would you pay for them? Do they make you want to enter? If the answer is no..then dont use it.
Dont take a "MAKE 45$ PER SIGNUP!" Sponsor over a "Get 20$ per signup" Just because you think you will make more money on the first one sponsor if the last one turns you on more then the first one.

Also be sure to check out how many exit popups the sponsor have, and do YOU make any money of it? You can be sure that if they have a chain of 5 popup windows when you leave it it dosent convert very well and they make more money on the popups then you will make using them.

I usally say 2 popups is ok. BUT NO ENTER POPUPS!

Also do they promote free porn email sponsors on there paysite?
Dont use them, then your hard worked surfers just might signup for the free one and not pay for the membership.

Lately there are alot of sponsors that use a big database of pictures that everyone allready seen alot of times. So try to find a sponsor that makes his own content. It dosent have to be amateur stuff but just be sure he got something to offer that the surfers never seen before.

Also go for a recurring sponsor when choosing sponsor for your TGP. This will take some time to build up but it will pay off in the end..and also when the bad months cums you will still have the rebills that cover your ass.

If a sponsor dosent make one signup after 1000 hits to it..change!
MAKING TGP IS ABOUT MAKING LONGTIME PROFIT.

Now good luck and get out there and make some $$$

Tomorrow my school goes on

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Old 12-08-2003, 01:55 PM   #2
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:57 PM   #3
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The Almighty Sensei has spoken!!!

Great info for the n00bs bro!

Take care and kind regards,

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Old 12-08-2003, 02:00 PM   #4
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holy shit. a meaningful post at gfy.

i actually read it twice to make sure it wasnt some kinda joke.
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Old 12-08-2003, 02:01 PM   #5
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Old 12-08-2003, 02:04 PM   #6
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I try and keep it simple.

I got a few more of these that I will post a few days now I think.

If people like to read them.

Can´t be all about hilton videos in this board ;)
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Old 12-08-2003, 02:11 PM   #7
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Recurring on tgp traffic? not the best idea from my experiance
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Old 12-08-2003, 02:24 PM   #9
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Ahhhh shit now newbies couldn't wet dream a chance like this boy!
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I'm with Dawgy, good to see some meaningful stuff here

Have you moticed any changes on TGP surfers buying habits when it comes to trials and no trials?
Do they still buy as much as before if the site has no trials or do they kinda expect trials nowadays?
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Old 12-08-2003, 02:36 PM   #13
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does this mean i must change this sponsor ?
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does this mean i must change this sponsor ?
depends what kind of traffic you send to it and how targetted
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hehe its shitty traffic
its normal it wont convert
im even surprised when im getting some sign-up with it
thank to 10dollarcash ;)
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Btw, Those stats suck ass. Adultplatium converts like mad for almost everyone, even me lol
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i know ;)
i mean having 0:1000 isnt always a sign that you have to change your sponsor, i depands of your traffic quality ;)
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hehe its shitty traffic
its normal it wont convert
im even surprised when im getting some sign-up with it
thank to 10dollarcash ;)
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nice post, someones getting a new camera
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Old 12-08-2003, 10:23 PM   #21
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I'm with Dawgy, good to see some meaningful stuff here

Have you moticed any changes on TGP surfers buying habits when it comes to trials and no trials?
Do they still buy as much as before if the site has no trials or do they kinda expect trials nowadays?
Well I never been to happy about the whole trial thing because most of the time the surfers just get the trial and download as much as they can and then leave.

And today with broadband getting more and more spread this is a even bigger problem.

But I do understand because of all the VISA demands on the 1% chargeback that the sponsor itself need to cover it´s ass in some way.

But I also see that the sponsors that make their own unique content and offer something you cant find anywhereelse then on their site usally dont even offer a trial.

Why? Well most of the time I think they are sure about their product and dont need to do it.

I might be wrong but some of the trial sites are just shitty sites.

I am not saying all of them are but some.

So in my mind trials are (if they are not fixed so the surfer only get a smaller part of the site) Just a way for the sponsor to save his ass and NOT for the surfer to get a good peek.

But Like I said I might be wrong.

I usally stay away from sponsors that offer trials because I rather have my surfer pay fullprize.

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I demand to settle this with mortal combat !
LOL! Well Guess there are different sensei`s ;)
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Thanks
I got another one cumming up tonight.

Hope people have learn something and maby get something to think about.

Also thanks to all of those who contacted me on icq.

Stay tuned for lesson 2.
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Old 12-09-2003, 10:59 AM   #26
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You've saved alot of n00bs alot of TGP failures
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GFY needs more of this.
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Old 12-09-2003, 11:38 AM   #29
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Having been around for many yuears, but still a virgin to this board, reading this thread has been more useful, or at least, more meaningful to me than the last 5 other hours reading I've spent here. GFY is pretty much gossip, but the remaining 10% is useful stuff. So what have I learned - It's worth participating here anyway. It's = river golddigging - I'll just keep my fucking nose deep into that stream and something will eventually turn up!

He's gotta be a Sensei - he's actually SHARING with us.
In Japan, only studen titulate a person as Sensei - but the sensei himself would never use this title, but usually he calls himself a teacher, or an instructor. Many hundred years before GFY was born:D

Even so, thanks dude, domo arrigato from me.
CumSensei! I can't wait to read your next chapter!

Greatful - you make a difference!
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Thanks for the useful post! Keep 'em coming!

Lensman,
Congrats on the daily prizes idea, the quality of the posts has noticeably increased this week.
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Old 12-09-2003, 11:51 AM   #31
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Sure if I win a prize thats fine but the main reason I am doing this is because I know there are alot of new people that browse this board and I really like to help.

A friend of mine told me about this contest and I think it´s a good idea to get people to start posting relevant posts that might help people to get a better start in their bizz.

Hopfully after I am done more people will share some small tips.

I dont think people will share everything they know (Hell even I would not tell you my best secrets to make money)

But I am always willing to maby light a idea or point a guy in some direction that might save him time.

And as you might see alot of people really like to read these threads and that for something means alot to me and that people actually care.

I been doing this for many years and I think most people can vertify that I am a nice guy who always try and help if I can.

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Ok here comes the rest of the tgp lessons

4. USING THE SPONSORS:
Forget about using banners on your site. Banners are dead thesedays. There are lots of programs that removes them automaticly and shit. Make up your own if you gonna use some. I almost always use textlinks or small custom made galleries to promote my sponsors.

So now its time you make some money of the traffic.

Make 4-5 small galleries with maby 5 pictures in them.
Make up a good text to the gallery and link to it with small thumbs from the mainpage of the tgp. Put them on the top of the tgp.

Directly below but the galleries listings.

This will drive good clicks to your sponsors.

Dont link the thumbs directly to your sponsors.
This will stop the surfer from continue to click along on your site.

5. STARTING TO TRADE:
When finding trades try to surf around for trades that use the same niche as you are. These are the best for you and will make your traffic high quality.

6. TRADING SCRIPT:
These are scripts that handles your trades for you. They make sure the trades that sends you the most traffic get good hits back. There is alot of different tradeing scripts out there and I cant tell you what script is the best one.
They cost anything from 300$-1000$

There is also "Free" ones but these are not as good.

7. TGP GALLERY SCRIPT:
To update your tgp there are lots of different scripts that helps you out and makes it more easy.
Ask around for what script might fits your needs.

Well there you have the basics to start a TGP and make it profitable. After you made these steps its all up to you and how much work you wanna put into it.

There is always tuning to do on a site to make it better. But that takes some time to learn and that you have to do for yourselfe.

Hope this helps out...

Tomorrow how to make it in gallery posting.

Damn just got the email from gfy and I was not even in the top 10. Well well I hope people are learning anyway

BEcause I dont mind sharing.

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Thanx a lot dude - you actually make me belive there's a few kinda human beings around this board.

Can't wait to read more. Just started my own TGP after having been trade master and manintaining TGP's for others for some years. Now I'm starting on my own - you make a difference.

That's what counts here - at least to me - and not the loads of shit coming from bigmouths who usually don't let anything else out - but shit, no matter what.

Think positive. Be positive. Be nice. Get friends. Get rich.
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just for your information
here the bling bling ;)

dont despair, even shitty traffic hands up to convert with 10dollarcash ;)
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Fuzebox yes I do.

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