BCS is bullshit! USC #1 but no SUGAR? - GoFuckYourself.com

foolio · 12-07-2003, 12:36 PM

Fuck this shit. USC is #1, noe of this 'should be, could be' crap- USC is #1 - and thus they shoudl be going to the sugar bowl. But the stupid BCS is gonna fuck them over. So tell me - how are the #2 and #3 teams going to play for the National Championship while the #1 team just watches them?

BULLSHIT

There is NO way Oklahoma should be in the picture after getting there assholes handed to them on a platter. no fucking way.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1680412

"Southern California's rise to No. 1 in the polls apparently will not be enough to give the Trojans a berth in the national championship game.

USC (11-1) made the jump from second to No. 1 in the ESPN/USA Today coaches' poll and Associated Press media poll on Sunday, a combination of its 52-28 victory over Oregon State on Saturday and previous No. 1 Oklahoma's humbling 35-7 loss to Kansas State in the Big 12 championship game.

However, the Sooners are expected to hold their No. 1 position in the final Bowl Championship Series Standings. The standings and BCS bowl matchups will be announced later today (5:30 p.m. ET, ABC). The Trojans' BCS position -- they have been second to the Sooners for weeks -- was weakened due to losses by two of their opponents, Notre Dame and Hawaii, on Saturday.

That being the case, LSU is projected to be Oklahoma's likely opponent in the Nokia Sugar Bowl. The Tigers routed Georgia 34-13 in the SEC championship game and have the upper BCS hand over USC, according to ESPN's Brad Edwards.

Saturday's turn of events will allow LSU to finish eight spots better than USC in schedule strength. LSU now will be able to overcome a one-point poll deficit to USC, as long as it leads the Trojans in at least six of the seven BCS computers, which is expected to happen, according to Edwards.

USC's only hope was to jump to No. 1 and have Oklahoma voted No. 2 in either of the two polls, according to Edwards. USC, LSU and Oklahoma were 1-2-3, respectively, in both polls.

Since margin of victory is no longer a consideration in the BCS system, the Sooners will remain the top-ranked team in the majority of BCS ratings -- which in turn will enable them to stay in the top two of the BCS.

Edwards' projected matchups for the BCS bowls:

Nokia Sugar Bowl: LSU vs. Oklahoma

Rose Bowl presented by Citi: USC vs. Michigan"

Materialist · 12-07-2003, 12:38 PM

Oklahoma deserves it.

foolio · 12-07-2003, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Materialist
Oklahoma deserves it.

You MUST not have seen the game yesterday......

cosis · 12-07-2003, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Materialist
Oklahoma deserves it.

that made me laugh, thanx

Materialist · 12-07-2003, 12:53 PM

Please...

Oklahoma dominated all year and got beat by a topsy-turvy Kansas State team in an unnecessary "championship" game which not every conference has to play. Every game Oklahoma played they controlled the game and against RANKED opponents. (please spare USC's win over a ranked Washington State team weaks ago; they are garbage). USC lost to a California team who finished just above .500. Oklahoma pummelled Texas and Oklahoma State who are both ranked in the Top 25. Where's USC at?

Please hop off your state pride.

AbeFroman · 12-07-2003, 12:53 PM

They should add more weight to the games as the season progresses. Or maybe just a rule that you cant lose the last game before the Natl. Campionship game and still go. I think everyone wants to see USC and LSU. I understand the need for strength of schedule measures but they should have bonus point for things like winning your conference. If LSU doesn't go we are going to be screaming about not getting credit for beating GA twice. How fucked up to beat a top ten team twice and not get the quality win points. Maybe they should hire Google to decide the bowl bids.

nap · 12-07-2003, 12:55 PM

usc lost to CAL and you think they deserve it

we got our asses handed to us yesterday by a GOOD team but that was NOT the OU team that has played 12 damn near flawless games. we deserve to go to this game

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 12:56 PM

how the fuck did pissant USC who played a soft ass schedule and won less games then LSU get #1 on both polls?

are these people who vote on crack? or is pete carroll paying people for votes? wtf?

easyjesus · 12-07-2003, 12:56 PM

Oklahoma lost in their conference championship game, a game in which USC didnt even have to play. Oklahoma also has a stronger strength of schedule....

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by easyjesus
Oklahoma lost in their conference championship game, a game in which USC didnt even have to play. Oklahoma also has a stronger strength of schedule....

doesn't matter, lost conference championship and now they look like fools cuz they couldn't handle a team that wasn't even top 10

Materialist · 12-07-2003, 12:58 PM

I wouldn't even bother presenting facts to this puppet. He's from California, so he is having a hard time fathoming that USC isn't as good as its record stands for. Plain and simple: Oklahoma would destroy USC.

nap · 12-07-2003, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
doesn't matter, lost conference championship and now they look like fools cuz they couldn't handle a team that wasn't even top 10

we've already proven we can handle teams ranked in the top 10

Sosa · 12-07-2003, 01:00 PM

Big 12 or pussy pac10? hmm let me think about that one...

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by Materialist
I wouldn't even bother presenting facts to this puppet. He's from California, so he is having a hard time fathoming that USC isn't as good as its record stands for. Plain and simple: Oklahoma would destroy USC.

I dunno... despite having their asses handed to them by K State, i still think Oklahoma would spank the bejeezus out of SC, they're just an overall better team, but that's besides the point, point is... SC should not be ranked #1 on ANY poll, period

nap · 12-07-2003, 01:01 PM

USC = Texas of the west. Plenty of good atheletes but no way they would compete against OU

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by nap

we've already proven we can handle teams ranked in the top 10

you've proven that you can beat them when there's nothing at stake, then you proved you choke in big games, why invite you to the sugar bowl? you've already proved you can't handle the pressure of a title game

nap · 12-07-2003, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
you've proven that you can beat them when there's nothing at stake, then you proved you choke in big games, why invite you to the sugar bowl? you've already proved you can't handle the pressure of a title game

texas was ranked what when we played them?

nap · 12-07-2003, 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
you've proven that you can beat them when there's nothing at stake, then you proved you choke in big games, why invite you to the sugar bowl? you've already proved you can't handle the pressure of a title game

usc lost to who and when

don't give me any bullshit about when a team wins. a win is a win in college football. EVERY game counts. USC lost to fucking CAL. We llost to K-State. Now which Opponent is the better team? Oh yea and our game was in KANSAS. Get real, we deserve to play in the championship game.

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by nap

texas was ranked what when we played them?

does it matter? what happened when the game actually meant something? OU choked when it mattered, the 12 games they played before mean absolutely nothing

when it mattered, the mighty sooners couldn't handle the pressure of the big game and got served like a high school team.

triumph · 12-07-2003, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by Materialist
Oklahoma deserves it.

How can fucking oklahoma deserve it they did not even win their division.

it should be USC and LSU.

The bcs is the biggest scandal in modern day sports!

FUCK YOU BCS.

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by nap

usc lost to who and when don't give me any bullshit about when a team wins. a win is a win in college football. EVERY game counts. USC lost to fucking CAL. We llost to K-State. Now which Opponent is the better team? Oh yea and our game was in KANSAS. Get real, we deserve to play in the championship game.

no you don't. Please tell me what fucking sport lets a team who cant even win its conference play for the title?

you don't win your conference you SHOULD NOT even be considered for the National Title Game

are you fucking serious?

nap · 12-07-2003, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
no you don't. Please tell me what fucking sport lets a team who cant even win its conference play for the title?

you don't win your conference you SHOULD NOT even be considered for the National Title Game

are you fucking serious?

why the fuck not? if the conference game determines who goes to a bowl game than EVERY conference should be playing in a conference championship game. do they, NO. Our regular season was over 2 weeks ago.

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by nap

why the fuck not? if the conference game determines who goes to a bowl game than EVERY conference should be playing in a conference championship game. do they, NO. Our regular season was over 2 weeks ago.

no, the rankings play a part in it as well, if the #1 and #2 teams win their conference (as they DID this year) they should be the teams playing for the title, not the #2 (who should be #1) team who won their conference and #3 team who didn't

what sense does that make? that'd be like kansas city winning the AFC and Philly winning the NFC and sending the bears and the Jets to the superbowl

Sosa · 12-07-2003, 01:18 PM

Every conference should have a championship game for sure. I don't care if you have 8 teams in your conference get something lined up at the end of the year. It is stupid that half the confrences play that championship game and half don't.

jennym · 12-07-2003, 01:19 PM

As the rankings stand right now

LSU played 4 ranked teams
USC played 1 ranked team
(For those of you who insist on counting Auburn as a ranked team that USC beat----LSU beat them also!)

LSU won 12 games
USC won 11 games

LSU won their conference in an actual conference championship game

LSU's only loss was to a RANKED team

When the rankings are released later today, LSU's schedule strength is 8 harder than USC's.

Tell me again why USC should be ranked higher than LSU????

Bottom line is LSU has EARNED the #1 spot. I don't care who #2 is....but honestly I think OU is better than USC. OU lost their championship game, but USC didn't even play one!!

Hustler DJ · 12-07-2003, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
how the fuck did pissant USC who played a soft ass schedule and won less games then LSU get #1 on both polls?

Talk smack once you've gotten Louisiana-Monroe and Western Illinois off your non-conference schedule... last week's BCS Strength of Schedule rankings: USC=37, LSU 54...

Materialist · 12-07-2003, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
no, the rankings play a part in it as well, if the #1 and #2 teams win their conference (as they DID this year) they should be the teams playing for the title, not the #2 (who should be #1) team who won their conference and #3 team who didn't

what sense does that make? that'd be like kansas city winning the AFC and Philly winning the NFC and sending the bears and the Jets to the superbowl

That comparison isn't even relative in diameter. Comparing the caliber of the Chicago Bears and NY Jets with Oklahoma is entirely preposterous.

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by jennym
As the rankings stand right now

LSU played 4 ranked teams
USC played 1 ranked team
(For those of you who insist on counting Auburn as a ranked team that USC beat----LSU beat them also!)

LSU won 12 games
USC won 11 games

LSU won their conference in an actual conference championship game

LSU's only loss was to a RANKED team

When the rankings are released later today, LSU's schedule strength is 8 harder than USC's.

Tell me again why USC should be ranked higher than LSU????

Bottom line is LSU has EARNED the #1 spot. I don't care who #2 is....but honestly I think OU is better than USC. OU lost their championship game, but USC didn't even play one!!

nap · 12-07-2003, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
no, the rankings play a part in it as well, if the #1 and #2 teams win their conference (as they DID this year) they should be the teams playing for the title, not the #2 (who should be #1) team who won their conference and #3 team who didn't

what sense does that make? that'd be like kansas city winning the AFC and Philly winning the NFC and sending the bears and the Jets to the superbowl

you can't compare the nfl and college because we DONT have a play off system. We(12-1) still have a better over all record than USC(11-). I just read the entire post, USC played Hawaii who lost to TU? Give me a fucking break. Don't even tell me that they deserve to play in the national championship playing teams in the fucking WAC.

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by Materialist
That comparison isn't even relative in diameter. Comparing the caliber of the Chicago Bears and NY Jets with Oklahoma is entirely preposterous.

how isn't it? jets nor the bears will win their conference, let alone their respective divisions, but hell, if we're gonna send OU to the title game why not send the jets and bears? it'd be the SAME EXACT scenario

JustJen · 12-07-2003, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by Materialist
Please...

Oklahoma dominated all year and got beat by a topsy-turvy Kansas State team in an unnecessary "championship" game which not every conference has to play. Every game Oklahoma played they controlled the game and against RANKED opponents. (please spare USC's win over a ranked Washington State team weaks ago; they are garbage). USC lost to a California team who finished just above .500. Oklahoma pummelled Texas and Oklahoma State who are both ranked in the Top 25. Where's USC at?

Please hop off your state pride.

EXACTLY. You are quite smart

USC LOST TO FUCKING CAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

triumph · 12-07-2003, 01:25 PM

FUCK OKLAHOMA AND LSU!

AND FUCK THE BCS.

USC WILL PROBABLY PLAY A REAL FOOTBALL TEAM AND THAT IS MICHIGAN.

WHO THE FUCK GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE SOONERS OR TIGERS.

The best game college football game will be played on January 1, 2004: Michigan vs. USC, the true football teams, with a real history under their belts.

All the drunks from OK (a team that did not win their division, but expected to be in the sugar bowl) and LSU can Go Fuck Themselves.

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by nap

you can't compare the nfl and college because we DONT have a play off system. We(12-1) still have a better over all record than USC(11-). I just read the entire post, USC played Hawaii who lost to TU? Give me a fucking break. Don't even tell me that they deserve to play in the national championship playing teams in the fucking WAC.

I absolutely can compare the two, regardless of different post season systems. playoffs or BCS style, the NFL would never send a team who didn't win the AFC or NFC title to the superbowl, but college football will!

that makes about as much sense as sending the lakers to the world series

cosis · 12-07-2003, 01:26 PM

any team that gets destroyed like OU did last night does not deserve to play in the championship. but hey thats how the BCS works....... what a fucked up system

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by triumph
FUCK OKLAHOMA AND LSU!

AND FUCK THE BCS.

USC WILL PROBABLY PLAY A REAL FOOTBALL TEAM AND THAT IS MICHIGAN.

WHO THE FUCK GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE SOONERS OR TIGERS.

The best game college football game will be played on January 1, 2004: Michigan vs. USC, the true football teams, with a real history under their belts.

All the drunks from OK (a team that did not win their division, but expected to be in the sugar bowl) and LSU can Go Fuck Themselves.

we can go fuck ourselves because your sorry ass team got a bullshit #1 ranking and wont even be playing for the title?

it's GOTTA suck being a SC fan, always a bridesmaid, never the bride

jennym · 12-07-2003, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Hustler DJ

Talk smack once you've gotten Louisiana-Monroe and Western Illinois off your non-conference schedule... last week's BCS Strength of Schedule rankings: USC=37, LSU 54...

W. Illinois was 9-4, granted not a great team, but everyone plays a couple of crappy teams.

Last weeks BCS Strength of Schedule...blah, blah, blah

See what it is this week. In the end, LSU will have had a tougher schedule than USC.

triumph · 12-07-2003, 01:28 PM

Both college polls USC is number one, keep in mind all the college coaches vote for this and they all voted for USC as Number 1, are you people and the fucking BCS telling me that all the coaches are wrong?

How the fuck can you play for a national championship game if you cant even win your division ( for those of you that are ignorant and reading and replying to these threads, Okllahoma lost their division championship game last night!).

nap · 12-07-2003, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by triumph
FUCK OKLAHOMA AND LSU!

AND FUCK THE BCS.

USC WILL PROBABLY PLAY A REAL FOOTBALL TEAM AND THAT IS MICHIGAN.

WHO THE FUCK GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE SOONERS OR TIGERS.

The best game college football game will be played on January 1, 2004: Michigan vs. USC, the true football teams, with a real history under their belts.

All the drunks from OK (a team that did not win their division, but expected to be in the sugar bowl) and LSU can Go Fuck Themselves.

fuck you too bitch. you sound like a fucking cry baby. accept the fact that your team isn't as good as you fucking thought they were and move on. there is always basketball season you fucking prick

Materialist · 12-07-2003, 01:32 PM

OU has dominated all season. You are construing an irrelavant argument with 5-7 teams from the NFL.

Here's how it breaks down:

USC has a terrible conference and aren't worthy of competing in the Sugar Bowl.

LSU plays in a strong conference with teams consisting of Florida , Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee. LSU lost to the inconsistent Gators. They beat Georgia twice. They beat an underappreciated Ole Miss team. They didn't play Tennessee.

Oklahoma plays in the Big 12. This is a conference with Kansas State who had a few let downs earlier in the year. Nebraska [okay, they aren't that great]. Texas which is a good team but can't compete with Oklahoma. Oklahoma destroyed them. Oklahoma State is a team everyone though would upset Oklahoma. What happened? Oklahoma demolished them.

USC has played shitty teams.

It should be OU vs LSU.

Oklahoma wins.

jennym · 12-07-2003, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by triumph
Both college polls USC is number one, keep in mind all the college coaches vote for this and they all voted for USC as Number 1, are you people and the fucking BCS telling me that all the coaches are wrong?

How the fuck can you play for a national championship game if you cant even win your division ( for those of you that are ignorant and reading and replying to these threads, Okllahoma lost their division championship game last night!).

What I am saying is that all the polls are bullshit on this one. Please explain to me how USC DESERVES to be #1 in ANY poll??? I agree that since OU lost their championship game they shouldn't go to the national title game, but USC should quit bitching because they didn't even PLAY a championship game!!

triumph · 12-07-2003, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
we can go fuck ourselves because your sorry ass team got a bullshit #1 ranking and wont even be playing for the title?

it's GOTTA suck being a SC fan, always a bridesmaid, never the bride

It does not suck being an SC fan and an alumni from the best school in the US. USC has the best connections in the world, many execs and leaders are from USC and we all stick together and help each other out.

Thank You USC for making me a multi millionaire! Thank You for giving me access to the best connections in Business that I could ever have! And thank you for the great memories and many more championships to come!

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by Hustler DJ

Talk smack once you've gotten Louisiana-Monroe and Western Illinois off your non-conference schedule... last week's BCS Strength of Schedule rankings: USC=37, LSU 54...

i'm sorry, "last week" makes how much difference "this week" besides none? Sorry, but with this weeks games strength of schedule swung our way, considering we beat 4 top 25 teams and you beat how many? oh yeah one......

your one loss to cal.... ours to a top 10 team.... we'll take those teams off our schedule when you take BYU, Hawaii, California, Arizona State, Stanford, Notre Dame, Washington, Arizona and UCLA off yours

triumph · 12-07-2003, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by nap

fuck you too bitch. you sound like a fucking cry baby. accept the fact that your team isn't as good as you fucking thought they were and move on. there is always basketball season you fucking prick

FUCK YOU SOONER!

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by triumph

It does not suck being an SC fan and an alumni from the best school in the US. USC has the best connections in the world, many execs and leaders are from USC and we all stick together and help each other out.

Thank You USC for making me a multi millionaire! Thank You for giving me access to the best connections in Business that I could ever have! And thank you for the great memories and many more championships to come!

best school in the US?

i'd be willing to bet harvard, yale and a few hundred other schools would be laughing at you right now.

JustJen · 12-07-2003, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by XxXotic
I absolutely can compare the two, regardless of different post season systems. playoffs or BCS style, the NFL would never send a team who didn't win the AFC or NFC title to the superbowl, but college football will!

that makes about as much sense as sending the lakers to the world series

obviously, you are speaking on emotion here. I agree. College football does need a playoff system, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE ONE!!! If you lose late, you are penalized. You no longer get "extra credit" for winning big. And STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE COUNTS!!! Live with it.

XxXotic · 12-07-2003, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by Materialist
OU has dominated all season. You are construing an irrelavant argument with 5-7 teams from the NFL.

Here's how it breaks down:

USC has a terrible conference and aren't worthy of competing in the Sugar Bowl.

LSU plays in a strong conference with teams consisting of Florida , Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee. LSU lost to the inconsistent Gators. They beat Georgia twice. They beat an underappreciated Ole Miss team. They didn't play Tennessee.

Oklahoma plays in the Big 12. This is a conference with Kansas State who had a few let downs earlier in the year. Nebraska [okay, they aren't that great]. Texas which is a good team but can't compete with Oklahoma. Oklahoma destroyed them. Oklahoma State is a team everyone though would upset Oklahoma. What happened? Oklahoma demolished them.

USC has played shitty teams.

It should be OU vs LSU.

Oklahoma wins.

no, it *should* be usc and lsu for the title, you didn't win your conference, how the fuck do you think you deserve to be in the title game?

jennym · 12-07-2003, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by Materialist
LSU lost to the inconsistent Gators.

Those "inconsistant" Gators we lost to are ranked

14 in the BCS
16 in the Coaches and AP polls
With a record of 8-4

jennym · 12-07-2003, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by triumph
USC has the best connections in the world, many execs and leaders are from USC and we all stick together and help each other out.

That must be how y'all got the #1 ranking in the polls!

Materialist · 12-07-2003, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by jennym

Those "inconsistant" Gators we lost to are ranked

14 in the BCS
16 in the Coaches and AP polls
With a record of 8-4

Sorry if I confused you with what I am trying to convey. LSU lost to a Gator team that is a GREAT team but inconsistent with their wins. They play in tough games. I am "praising" LSU for the loss, not ruling out the Gators as a shitty team. Does that make sense now? LSU deserves the National Championship chance.

easyjesus · 12-07-2003, 01:41 PM

OU won there Division... the Big 12 South.

USC lost to CAL
OU lost to K-State.

K-State would kill CAL.

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12-07-2003, 12:36 PM	#1
foolio ICQ: 178725656 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 12,366	BCS is bullshit! USC #1 but no SUGAR? Fuck this shit. USC is #1, noe of this 'should be, could be' crap- USC is #1 - and thus they shoudl be going to the sugar bowl. But the stupid BCS is gonna fuck them over. So tell me - how are the #2 and #3 teams going to play for the National Championship while the #1 team just watches them? BULLSHIT There is NO way Oklahoma should be in the picture after getting there assholes handed to them on a platter. no fucking way. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1680412 "Southern California's rise to No. 1 in the polls apparently will not be enough to give the Trojans a berth in the national championship game. USC (11-1) made the jump from second to No. 1 in the ESPN/USA Today coaches' poll and Associated Press media poll on Sunday, a combination of its 52-28 victory over Oregon State on Saturday and previous No. 1 Oklahoma's humbling 35-7 loss to Kansas State in the Big 12 championship game. However, the Sooners are expected to hold their No. 1 position in the final Bowl Championship Series Standings. The standings and BCS bowl matchups will be announced later today (5:30 p.m. ET, ABC). The Trojans' BCS position -- they have been second to the Sooners for weeks -- was weakened due to losses by two of their opponents, Notre Dame and Hawaii, on Saturday. That being the case, LSU is projected to be Oklahoma's likely opponent in the Nokia Sugar Bowl. The Tigers routed Georgia 34-13 in the SEC championship game and have the upper BCS hand over USC, according to ESPN's Brad Edwards. Saturday's turn of events will allow LSU to finish eight spots better than USC in schedule strength. LSU now will be able to overcome a one-point poll deficit to USC, as long as it leads the Trojans in at least six of the seven BCS computers, which is expected to happen, according to Edwards. USC's only hope was to jump to No. 1 and have Oklahoma voted No. 2 in either of the two polls, according to Edwards. USC, LSU and Oklahoma were 1-2-3, respectively, in both polls. Since margin of victory is no longer a consideration in the BCS system, the Sooners will remain the top-ranked team in the majority of BCS ratings -- which in turn will enable them to stay in the top two of the BCS. Edwards' projected matchups for the BCS bowls: Nokia Sugar Bowl: LSU vs. Oklahoma Rose Bowl presented by Citi: USC vs. Michigan" __________________

12-07-2003, 12:38 PM	#2
Materialist Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 739	Oklahoma deserves it.

12-07-2003, 12:53 PM	#5
Materialist Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 739	Please... Oklahoma dominated all year and got beat by a topsy-turvy Kansas State team in an unnecessary "championship" game which not every conference has to play. Every game Oklahoma played they controlled the game and against RANKED opponents. (please spare USC's win over a ranked Washington State team weaks ago; they are garbage). USC lost to a California team who finished just above .500. Oklahoma pummelled Texas and Oklahoma State who are both ranked in the Top 25. Where's USC at? Please hop off your state pride.

12-07-2003, 12:53 PM	#6
AbeFroman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 220	They should add more weight to the games as the season progresses. Or maybe just a rule that you cant lose the last game before the Natl. Campionship game and still go. I think everyone wants to see USC and LSU. I understand the need for strength of schedule measures but they should have bonus point for things like winning your conference. If LSU doesn't go we are going to be screaming about not getting credit for beating GA twice. How fucked up to beat a top ten team twice and not get the quality win points. Maybe they should hire Google to decide the bowl bids.

12-07-2003, 12:55 PM	#7
nap Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: midwest Posts: 2,765	usc lost to CAL and you think they deserve it we got our asses handed to us yesterday by a GOOD team but that was NOT the OU team that has played 12 damn near flawless games. we deserve to go to this game

12-07-2003, 12:58 PM	#11
Materialist Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 739	I wouldn't even bother presenting facts to this puppet. He's from California, so he is having a hard time fathoming that USC isn't as good as its record stands for. Plain and simple: Oklahoma would destroy USC.

12-07-2003, 01:00 PM	#13
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	Big 12 or pussy pac10? hmm let me think about that one...

12-07-2003, 01:01 PM	#15
nap Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: midwest Posts: 2,765	USC = Texas of the west. Plenty of good atheletes but no way they would compete against OU

12-07-2003, 01:18 PM	#24
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	Every conference should have a championship game for sure. I don't care if you have 8 teams in your conference get something lined up at the end of the year. It is stupid that half the confrences play that championship game and half don't.

12-07-2003, 01:19 PM	#25
jennym Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: the south Posts: 1,622	As the rankings stand right now LSU played 4 ranked teams USC played 1 ranked team (For those of you who insist on counting Auburn as a ranked team that USC beat----LSU beat them also!) LSU won 12 games USC won 11 games LSU won their conference in an actual conference championship game LSU's only loss was to a RANKED team When the rankings are released later today, LSU's schedule strength is 8 harder than USC's. Tell me again why USC should be ranked higher than LSU???? Bottom line is LSU has EARNED the #1 spot. I don't care who #2 is....but honestly I think OU is better than USC. OU lost their championship game, but USC didn't even play one!!

12-07-2003, 01:25 PM	#32
triumph Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,433	FUCK OKLAHOMA AND LSU! AND FUCK THE BCS. USC WILL PROBABLY PLAY A REAL FOOTBALL TEAM AND THAT IS MICHIGAN. WHO THE FUCK GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE SOONERS OR TIGERS. The best game college football game will be played on January 1, 2004: Michigan vs. USC, the true football teams, with a real history under their belts. All the drunks from OK (a team that did not win their division, but expected to be in the sugar bowl) and LSU can Go Fuck Themselves.

12-07-2003, 01:26 PM	#34
cosis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Beach Posts: 5,282	any team that gets destroyed like OU did last night does not deserve to play in the championship. but hey thats how the BCS works....... what a fucked up system

12-07-2003, 01:28 PM	#37
triumph Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,433	Both college polls USC is number one, keep in mind all the college coaches vote for this and they all voted for USC as Number 1, are you people and the fucking BCS telling me that all the coaches are wrong? How the fuck can you play for a national championship game if you cant even win your division ( for those of you that are ignorant and reading and replying to these threads, Okllahoma lost their division championship game last night!).

12-07-2003, 01:32 PM	#39
Materialist Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 739	OU has dominated all season. You are construing an irrelavant argument with 5-7 teams from the NFL. Here's how it breaks down: USC has a terrible conference and aren't worthy of competing in the Sugar Bowl. LSU plays in a strong conference with teams consisting of Florida , Georgia, Mississippi, Tennessee. LSU lost to the inconsistent Gators. They beat Georgia twice. They beat an underappreciated Ole Miss team. They didn't play Tennessee. Oklahoma plays in the Big 12. This is a conference with Kansas State who had a few let downs earlier in the year. Nebraska [okay, they aren't that great]. Texas which is a good team but can't compete with Oklahoma. Oklahoma destroyed them. Oklahoma State is a team everyone though would upset Oklahoma. What happened? Oklahoma demolished them. USC has played shitty teams. It should be OU vs LSU. Oklahoma wins.