Exactly! Even if she needs you in the beginning, once she figures out that it does make money, it's not much to buy her own digital camera & start up herself. Worse, she'll get a new boyfriend who is an amateur web designer & they'll demand you take the site down.

A friend of mine built a singel girl site out of bought content. The girl freaked when she found it & started emailing all of his link trades, telling them to send traffic to her "real" site instead. :mad:

Have you ever heard of this new concept: "Legal Documents"?

You pay them for doing the shoots, and then give them recurring for you doing all of the work on the site? I really hope not. If they did the shoots for free, or not for free with less of a % then that'd seem logical.

Cheers,
Matt

Donavan,

I think it is a great idea if you set it up like an affiliate program and teach the models to promote their site.

I do plan on showing them how to do that. :) I'm sure I'll get slammed now for teaching them too much.

No. No one ever heard of legal documents. :1orglaugh

Models that 'change their mind" after the fact is pretty much a YP not an MP.

The model in question had no leg to stand on and knew it but wasted her own precious time and energy attempting to leech my traffic because she had none of her own. The reports to the FBI she made didn't even help her. "Stealing her traffic" (as she accused) isn't illegal nor is annoying every webmaster I trade traffic with. Ingorance isn't a crime. It ought to be, but it isn't.

I think it's a nice idea to have a share with a model if you've found the right girl. It's not the norm and I have to add to Kcat's statement about the boyfriend. What do you do when the boyfriend (old, new or otherwise) tells your girl she can't model for you unless she gets a bigger cut. If you have a contract with her that says she has to model weekly, will you make her when she doesn't want to? When it's good business, it's good. When your model finds God, will you pull down your site of her? Or claims she was 'drunk' or on drugs at the time she signed your releases, will you be a business man or a nice guy.

How many sites of TiffanyAnn are there currently? Nice girl. :( New boyfriends, new webmasters... model gets an email from
a member who says he can make her more money than she's making now...

the potential hazards go on and on.

Hire them. Treat them nicely, shoot them while you can and go about your business. :2 cents:

Donovan, I dont' see a webmaster link for your sites. I'm looking for more teen single girl sites to promote if you are interested.

It always amazes me that some webmasters are so dismissive of profit share single girl sites. It's a lucrative sideline.

Excluding external costs (like marketing) the two most expensive costs are content and wages/time. Automation reduces wages tremendously, and these types of sites remove content costs. If the girl is actually willing to do some marketing (hence the percentage advantage), these are real money spinners. Wish I had more. Money for old rope. Good contract is key tho.

donnivan - listen to charley - he KNOWS what he's talking about and can articulate it much better than I can

you're the perfect example of what I'm trying to convey. Once a model with a brain waked up and realizes that she doesn't need anyone else - why use anyone else? You do MUCH better on your own.

:thumbsup

this industry is about grinding though girls.... playboy, and every other magazine, has a different playmate EVERY month.

It's been like this for ten years now, about 1 in a 1,000 make it to being a "name" for many reasons.

So the girl is getting a 2% revenue off a site dedicated to her and she is not seeing as you getting 98% off of her pictures. She then get's it into her head she wants more and you are in trouble.

Pay them, treat them nicely and let them go, if you want them back to work get them back, paying them a bonus on their site just clouds the issue for no other reason than to ease your conscience. I assume the girl is getting her full payment on the day she works and the extra payments are just a bonus.

Otherwise you will really be opening a bag of worms.

Try it and see how it works.

Agreed.

A partnership with someone that handles affiliates, traffic, accounting, processing, etc., etc. might be the smartest thing for a girl with a brain to do. Who says just because you are smart you want to deal with the daily b/s adult webmasters do.

Actually, it's not too bad...if you are organized, you will have the time for marketing, accounting, etc. I just make time for everything and prioritize.
It doesn't hurt that my site and affiliate program are completely automated...it's pretty easy for me to keep up with everything.
But yeah, help is always nice...not if you are getting reamed in the process, though...which is always what happened to me in the past.

honestly, what the hell can I do with 5GB of transfer and I'm very little compared to a lot of guys around here :1orglaugh

Nice.. I know several girls who have gone this route, and actually ran a site for a girl with this arrangement a couple years ago. I don't personally know any crack whores, though.

That wasn't very nice of you, Sleazy.

I agree, its good to give the girls recurring income.

:thumbsup

My car lasts long after I paid for it.

Should i send BMW a recurring check every month?

lol, models making recurring income from photoshoots. Bad idea, try it and find out why :glugglug

100 single girl sites :glugglug

Very interesting thread indeed. I gained a new respect for some in this thread and lost a whole lot with others (not that any of you would give a shit..lol)

Hats off to the Guys/Gals that treat the females of this industry with some common decency and actually do give a shit. :thumbsup

muah