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Old 12-03-2003, 02:50 AM   #1
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399 for 10mbps dedicated server

http://extremerack.com/products.cfm?products=1

anyone use this company? With no setup fees, this looks pretty yummy to me right now.
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Old 12-03-2003, 02:53 AM   #2
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Could be wrong but looks to be on Cogent.
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Old 12-03-2003, 03:05 AM   #3
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why don't you try and see for yourself...just icq me and i'll be more than willing to assist you guys
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Hmm.. that does look pretty good to me too.. Anyone tried them out ?
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:13 AM   #5
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17 g7.ba21.b001027-0.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.9.42) 81.962 ms 82.270 ms 82.280 ms
18 TulinOnline.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.4.158) 82.131 ms 82.317 ms 82.118 ms
19 66.28.200.26 (66.28.200.26) 82.635 ms 82.542 ms 82.392 ms

Cogent it is! A little pricey for cogent b/w
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Plus a whois search on tulinonline.com yields a company based in the Philippines.

Hmmmm, cogent bandwidth plus non US/Can/EU NOC...

I think I'll pass. Maybe if the price was 10/mbps then I'd take my chances on an unknown provider.



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17 g7.ba21.b001027-0.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.9.42) 81.962 ms 82.270 ms 82.280 ms
18 TulinOnline.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.4.158) 82.131 ms 82.317 ms 82.118 ms
19 66.28.200.26 (66.28.200.26) 82.635 ms 82.542 ms 82.392 ms

Cogent it is! A little pricey for cogent b/w
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:26 AM   #7
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I'm just curious. I was reading your infrastructure page.

Taken from http://www.extremerack.com/profile.cfm?profile=03

<b>Connectivity</b>
The servers your website is hosted is connected to the Internet through multiple redundant connections provided by some of the largest backbone providers in the world ensuring data delivery to the end user in the fastest, most efficient manner possible. ExtremeRack assures uptime by utilizing redundant connections within our data centers. In short, we are sitting on top of the Internet backbone and connectivity.

Taken from http://www.tpchost.com/infra_network.cfm

<b>Connectivity</b>
The servers your website is hosted is connected to the Internet through multiple redundant connections provided by some of the largest backbone providers in the world ensuring data delivery to the end user in the fastest, most efficient manner possible. TPCHost assures uptime by utilizing redundant connections within our data centers. In short, we are sitting on top of the Internet backbone and connectivity.

Taken from http://www.centaurivision.com/Infrastructure/Index.htm

<b>Connectivity</b>
The servers your website is hosted is connected to the Internet through multiple redundant connections provided by some of the largest backbone providers in the world ensuring data delivery to the end user in the fastest, most efficient manner possible. Centauri Vision assures uptime by utilizing redundant connections within our data centers. In short, we are sitting on top of the Internet backbone and connectivity.

Isn't that interesting?

Wow, your overview page looks pretty familiar too!

http://www.extremerack.com/profile.cfm?profile=01
http://www.duperhosting.com/main.htm
http://www.reliablehosting.com/about.htm
... and many many others.

Now, i'm not going to assume you stole this article. That would be wrong.

http://www.extremerack.com/solutions.cfm?solutions=02
http://www.hosts2002.com/articles/dedicated.html

Also, it seems like your bandwidth is pure cogent. So .. were you just lying when you said you had multiple pipes through multiple providers? Wait, you don't really need to answer that question, given that almost your entire site is stolen.

Fedfest. If i were you, i'd stay away from these guys. The price does look tempting, but it's pure cogent. Go with the guys in my sig. I'm a very happy customer. They won't match that price, but you will get a real host with real service.
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:28 AM   #8
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people still pay that? wow
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:31 AM   #9
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people still pay that? wow
People still pay what? that much for bandwidth? Actually i pay more but it is QUALITY not QUANTITY.

Listen to choda and go with what is in his sig!`
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Old 12-03-2003, 06:59 AM   #10
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Isn't Tulinonline.com the company behind adultoutsourcing.com??? The plot thickens.
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Old 12-03-2003, 07:51 AM   #11
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BGP is a must have for any host that really wants to say they are a player.

Really solid peering is also a plus for a hosting crew to have.

These things combined with toll-free phone support / various IM clients for support as well agressive monitoring make the hosting choices narrow down quite fast.

Its your business, give it to someone that takes it as seriously as you do.
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You should look at c h o o p a.com (remove the spaces)

I have 2 dedicated servers and 50mb/s of burstable bandwidth, they're pretty good, have high quality tier1 quality bandwidth and have nice prices.

You'll have to contact them directly since it's not listed on their page, but they have a $500 deal which will give ya 10mb/s capped bandwidth, if you want it burstable, it's a little more.

PLUS to top it off, they're all great people, they're not only helpful, they're pretty cool
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Plus a whois search on tulinonline.com yields a company based in the Philippines.

Hmmmm, cogent bandwidth plus non US/Can/EU NOC...

I think I'll pass. Maybe if the price was 10/mbps then I'd take my chances on an unknown provider.



What's up with Cogent? Phillipine office is where our Tech
Support staffs are located. Our NOC is in Houston and we
also have our separate Tech Staffs there.
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Old 12-03-2003, 08:11 AM   #14
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sure we still do, hit me up anytime for more hosting prices
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What's up with Cogent? Phillipine office is where our Tech
Support staffs are located. Our NOC is in Houston and we
also have our separate Tech Staffs there.
Why don't you address the issue of the blatant lies and theft on your company's website?
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You should give us a shot at hosting your server.
We host industry leaders such as:

http://www.extremepaychecks.com
http://www.fleshlight.com

You can contact these people to get a solid reference.

Our company is US based and we own our own server center.
In these times, it is sometimes important to keep things registered overseas.

ICQ me and I will give you a further discount to prove to you that we want your business.

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Whats "unlimited use" equal?? How much bandwidth are you actually allowing??

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Why don't you address the issue of the blatant lies and theft on your company's website?
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You can find 10mbps for $399
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Nah, I'll think I'll pass.

But have you ever wondered what you'll do WHEN (not if) Cogent joins the great big dot com graveyard in the sky? Don't you have a backup provider? like xo or level 3 or something along those lines?

Also, you never answered chodadog's post.

Finally, shouldn't your discount be EXTREME given that you provide infrastructure services in a part of the world where there are frequent insfrastructure issues?

By the way, anyone can claim a US office. Through VoIP anyone can have a toll free us number that routes over to an overseas line. Most Indian-based customer service companies do this.


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We host industry leaders such as:

http://www.extremepaychecks.com
http://www.fleshlight.com

You can contact these people to get a solid reference.

Our company is US based and we own our own server center.
In these times, it is sometimes important to keep things registered overseas.

ICQ me and I will give you a further discount to prove to you that we want your business.

Thanks!

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You can find 10mbps for $399
Who are your upstream providers?

Where is the bulk of your infrastructure located?
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i'm not sure but you might be interested in

Intel Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz
1 GB DDR RAM
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Free setup.
$260 per month.
? Server has 100 mbit capped port connection
? All components installed on servers are made Intel and their recommended partners
? All network componetns installed on gigabit ethernet and used CISCO switches and routers.
? 450 GB of data transfer per month is included (Additional traffic $0.2 per each GB of data transfer.)
? Minimal contract with prepay 1 month.

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Okay you say its capped... what is the actual BW delivery? 450 GB... that's too low, 10mbps x avg of 320GB = 3200GB a month

Do you use cogent or verio or other near death upstream provider?

At 260 per month, that's an anal ripout type of ripoff


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Intel Pentium 4 2.4 Ghz
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Okay you say its capped... what is the actual BW delivery? 450 GB... that's too low, 10mbps x avg of 320GB = 3200GB a month

Do you use cogent or verio or other near death upstream provider?

At 260 per month, that's an anal ripout type of ripoff


Hey, I tried getting your attention earlier but I don't think you saw it. If you're looking for 10mbps for $400, I can do it. But you have to act pretty quick, this special is pretty limited and my supply is almost out, they're selling really quick.

This is for Phat Servers. Ask around, we don't run a "mystery" shop. In fact, we're in SoCal, I'd be happy to meet up with you for lunch sometime.

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$400 a month? Too expensive. Anything around $200 a month? If Cogent, I'll take my chances if $100 a month

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Hey, I tried getting your attention earlier but I don't think you saw it. If you're looking for 10mbps for $400, I can do it. But you have to act pretty quick, this special is pretty limited and my supply is almost out, they're selling really quick.

This is for Phat Servers. Ask around, we don't run a "mystery" shop. In fact, we're in SoCal, I'd be happy to meet up with you for lunch sometime.

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You started this thread saying $400 a month is looking pretty good for 10mbps. Now you're saying it's too expensive and you want it for $200?

Sorry. We manage our servers and do a pretty damn good job at it. Check out Rackshack, I think they usually run those prices.
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$400 a month? Too expensive. Anything around $200 a month? If Cogent, I'll take my chances if $100 a month



I'm with Sly on this one. You have totally unrealistic ideas about the cost of bandwidth and a fully managed dedicated server.
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I'm with Sly on this one. You have totally unrealistic ideas about the cost of bandwidth and a fully managed dedicated server.
Unrealistic? Unrealistic is someone who doesn't ask for a deal and push a bargain.

Sly, Rackshack is cogent though
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Unrealistic? Unrealistic is someone who doesn't ask for a deal and push a bargain.

Sly, Rackshack is cogent though
Ok, let me know when you find a reliable host in the United States that will give you 10mbps for $200. I'm sure I could use another gallery server...
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Ok, let me know when you find a reliable host in the United States that will give you 10mbps for $200. I'm sure I could use another gallery server...
If I can't I'll try rackshack or you guys.
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$400 a month? Too expensive. Anything around $200 a month? If Cogent, I'll take my chances if $100 a month


$400 a month is too expensive for 10/Mbps?

You obviously aren't interested in quality support, infrastructure, peering, 24x7 support and a managed box etc etc etc...
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Unrealistic? Unrealistic is someone who doesn't ask for a deal and push a bargain.

Sly, Rackshack is cogent though
I'm always on the lookout for a good bargain. I just bought a domain for $450 US dollars. The guy selling wanted $1000 for it in the first place.

You want 10mbps at 200 dollars? And you don't want it to be cogent? I'm sorry, but you're an idiot. At 3200 gig/month, that's just over 6 cents per gig. I know for a fact you won't find a host willing to give you cogent bandwidth at that price.

Even rackshack's 10mbps plans are $349/month, and that is pure cogent bandwidth (I believe their 700gig/month plans use other providers). And that's not fully managed either, as far as i know (somebody correct me if i'm wrong). Like i said, your views on the cost of a fully managed dedicated server with non-cogent bandwidth is unrealistic. Ridiculous, in fact.
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What the fuck ever happend to Economies of Scale and discounting.

I just hope there's a walmart of Bandwidth... HIGH QUality...Lowest Prices.

Fuck, I'd even step up to 25MBPs if the final per GB price is good!

I am sure I am NOT alone on this.

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$400 a month is too expensive for 10/Mbps?

You obviously aren't interested in quality support, infrastructure, peering, 24x7 support and a managed box etc etc etc...
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What the fuck ever happend to Economies of Scale and discounting.
You do understand that there is a limit? It's not going to constantly get cheaper and cheaper as you buy more. It's going to reach a point when the host simply can't sell it for any cheaper, or they'd be making a loss.

And that is not going to be for 10mbps. Not for 25mbps either. And when you are actually using enough bandwidth to reach that point, even then, it's not going to be 6 cents per gigabyte.

Assuming you have some kind of massive growth, where the only way you are going to get cheaper bandwidth is to get your own space in a data center, and deal directly with the bandwidht providers, EVEN THEN, will you not be able to get 6 cents per gigabyte.

You are living in a fantasy land.
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What the fuck ever happend to Economies of Scale and discounting.

I just hope there's a walmart of Bandwidth... HIGH QUality...Lowest Prices.

Fuck, I'd even step up to 25MBPs if the final per GB price is good!

I am sure I am NOT alone on this.

This must be what your looking for. You still have to supply your harddware.

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Old 12-04-2003, 03:22 AM   #40
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why don't you try and see for yourself...just icq me and i'll be more than willing to assist you guys
Pretty fucking shameless.

Sorry that your business is doing so poorly that you felt the need to spam a thread where your clients were asked to respond on your behalf.
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This must be what your looking for. You still have to supply your harddware.

$2500 for 100Mbps and Rack
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=210451
That is beefy
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I have around 30 mbits on an isprime server that I'm not even using.
hey boss got any contact info? Isprime leads the way in quality
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Here you go: VibeHosting.com - $395/month for a 10mbit, no setup fees, upgradable at any time. eXchange colo datacenter in San Francisco, multihomed and BGP routed (primarily Nlayer which is Global Crossing), no Cogent.

If you hit me up we could discuss it and maybe do it even cheaper, ICQ 51034232, MSN [email protected] or email [email protected]
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Here you go: VibeHosting.com - $395/month for a 10mbit, no setup fees, upgradable at any time. eXchange colo datacenter in San Francisco, multihomed and BGP routed (primarily Nlayer which is Global Crossing), no Cogent.

If you hit me up we could discuss it and maybe do it even cheaper, ICQ 51034232, MSN [email protected] or email [email protected]
Do it even cheaper??? Gawwwwwt Dayuuuuuuuuuum, where's the pen and paper!?
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