interesting article re: spamcop and the recent ironport aquisition - GoFuckYourself.com

ytcracker · 12-03-2003, 02:13 PM

saw it on slashdot

basically ironport just aquired spamcop - but this is what the blurp said

"We all know about <A HREF="//yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/11/20/0248243.shtml?tid=111">IronPort's recent acquisition of SpamCop</A>. What may not be common knowledge is that <A HREF="http://news.com.com/2102-1032_3-5111556.html?tag=st_util_print">IronPort's Senderbase has 'the reputation as the fastest way to send millions of junk e-mail messages' and is popular with spam</A> factories. Founded by two former Microsoft executives - Hotmail's Scott Weiss and ListBot founder Scott Banister - IronPort claims its customers are not spammers but legitimate marketers. Critics say that this is a clear conflict of interest. Playing spam from both sides might be likened to a pharmaceutical company enabling the spread of a disease in order to sell the cure. SpamCop founder Julian Haight - who had to sell the company in order to remain solvent - is quoted as saying of IronPort's anti-spam measures: "I am not sure all its standards are tough enough." The story was originally reported by the <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/24/technology/24iron.html?ex=1070341200&en=0c658e9d1f311df9& amp;ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE">New York Times' Saul Hansell</A>. Abbreviated <A HREF="http://www.iht.com/articles/119003.html">mirror at IHT</A>."</i>

- AFN - · 12-03-2003, 02:19 PM

Conflict of interest is rife in almost all industries. Some are just more visible than others.

Sharky · 12-03-2003, 02:26 PM

Wow.

This will bring more value to Ironport as I'm sure it will unblacklist all of it's mailer clients. lol

strobi · 12-03-2003, 02:32 PM

whoho let's fire up the send boxes!! Praise to spam!

Rorschach · 12-03-2003, 02:36 PM

haha good on them

skillfull · 12-03-2003, 02:42 PM

maybe now ppl will understand than spamcop is bullshit afterall ;)

Phoenix · 12-03-2003, 02:45 PM

haha...classic

ah well...mail is here to stay.

sign up

Furious_Female · 12-03-2003, 03:05 PM

geez wish I would have had the money to buy it... probably went for millions

Ezygo Steve · 12-03-2003, 03:41 PM

interesting purchase, I am sure this will be nice for their bonded sender program....

Tipsy · 12-03-2003, 04:06 PM

Interesting and almost funny purchase.

The daft thing is the market is wide open for a GOOD central blacklist type service. The SPEWS and spamhaus's of this world cause more problems than they solve by a long way. I wonder how long before somebody fills the gap?

AdultKing · 12-03-2003, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
Interesting and almost funny purchase.

The daft thing is the market is wide open for a GOOD central blacklist type service. The SPEWS and spamhaus's of this world cause more problems than they solve by a long way. I wonder how long before somebody fills the gap?

Block listing spam sources only does not work.. its been tried.

The only way to force providers to deal with the spam problem is to keep blocking more and more of their address space until they either act or are in the blackholes of not being able to send mail to a large portion of the net.

SPEWS works, collateral damage is unfortunate but this is a war.

12-03-2003, 02:13 PM	#1
ytcracker stc is the greatest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: rip sean murray Posts: 12,403	interesting article re: spamcop and the recent ironport aquisition saw it on slashdot basically ironport just aquired spamcop - but this is what the blurp said "We all know about <A HREF="//yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/11/20/0248243.shtml?tid=111">IronPort's recent acquisition of SpamCop</A>. What may not be common knowledge is that <A HREF="http://news.com.com/2102-1032_3-5111556.html?tag=st_util_print">IronPort's Senderbase has 'the reputation as the fastest way to send millions of junk e-mail messages' and is popular with spam</A> factories. Founded by two former Microsoft executives - Hotmail's Scott Weiss and ListBot founder Scott Banister - IronPort claims its customers are not spammers but legitimate marketers. Critics say that this is a clear conflict of interest. Playing spam from both sides might be likened to a pharmaceutical company enabling the spread of a disease in order to sell the cure. SpamCop founder Julian Haight - who had to sell the company in order to remain solvent - is quoted as saying of IronPort's anti-spam measures: "I am not sure all its standards are tough enough." The story was originally reported by the <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/24/technology/24iron.html?ex=1070341200&en=0c658e9d1f311df9& amp;ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE">New York Times' Saul Hansell</A>. Abbreviated <A HREF="http://www.iht.com/articles/119003.html">mirror at IHT</A>."</i> __________________ www.ytcracker.com \| www.digitalgangster.com i love you

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Ezygo Steve So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 37	interesting purchase, I am sure this will be nice for their bonded sender program....

12-03-2003, 04:06 PM	#10
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	Interesting and almost funny purchase. The daft thing is the market is wide open for a GOOD central blacklist type service. The SPEWS and spamhaus's of this world cause more problems than they solve by a long way. I wonder how long before somebody fills the gap? __________________ Ignorance is never bliss.