Beating The Popup Blockers !! - GoFuckYourself.com

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 07:12 PM

I have 3 methods, the third one is the one i'm interested in doing a bit more thinking about , as it could be a great popup tool.

Turn on your popup blockers and try these 3.

These are totally safe links.

<center>POPUP ON ENTER 

http://s89164764.onlinehome.us/gfypop1.html

<center>POPUP ON EXIT 

http://s89164764.onlinehome.us/gfypop2.html

<center>1 UN-CLOSABLE POPUP APPLET AD 
In this demo you can close the popup by clicking back to the main window and pressing a keystroke in the window and it will close, but dont close the window without first closing the popup , or it will stay around.

http://s89164764.onlinehome.us/test/

Im interested in the success rate.

Its been tested on the yahoo and google popup blockers and it gets around both those on xp and latest i.e.

psyko514 · 12-02-2003, 07:14 PM

what's the point?
if someone purposely chooses to block popups, they're sure as hell not going to buy something from a popup if it gets around their software.

JDog · 12-02-2003, 07:14 PM

Uh, non of them poped up on mine. I'm using Mozilla!

jDOG

pamphage · 12-02-2003, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
what's the point?
if someone purposely chooses to block popups, they're sure as hell not going to buy something from a popup if it gets around their software.

people said the same thing about regular popup hells. yet apparently pop-up hells do make money.

JDog · 12-02-2003, 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
what's the point?
if someone purposely chooses to block popups, they're sure as hell not going to buy something from a popup if it gets around their software.

This is also a very good point!

jDoG

Serge_Oprano · 12-02-2003, 07:16 PM

John, how was your dinner yesterday?
;_))

pamphage · 12-02-2003, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
what's the point?
if someone purposely chooses to block popups, they're sure as hell not going to buy something from a popup if it gets around their software.

however ultimately i agree with you. whats the point because if you get around current popup blockers, they will just fix the exploit in future versions...creating a never ending battle that can't possibly be worth the trouble.

Brad-Wishing · 12-02-2003, 07:20 PM

Nice... those work.

Hey - you know what? The internet has commercials. They are "popups". To help PAY for the shit they are looking at for FREE they should be FORCED to look at a popup every once in awhile.

Not popup hell, but "intersticials".

When I get a popup I don't freak out... when I get a spam I don't lose all control and go nuts. I close it. I press delete.

Everyone is capable of this.

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 07:20 PM

All very good points , i'm not saying that they wont be picked up soon , but they work now, and if your popping even 1 popunder on your main page on lots of traffic , i guarantee it means more $$$. You can take out the code after , but There are lots of people using popups and popunders right now and making money. So you cant tell me popups dont pay, but i do understand your point.

pamphage · 12-02-2003, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²
All very good points , i'm not saying that they wont be picked up soon , but they work now, and if your popping even 1 popunder on your main page on lots of traffic , i guarantee it means more $$$. You can take out the code after , but There are lots of people using popups and popunders right now and making money. So you cant tell me popups dont pay, but i do understand your point.

did smokey the bear the first get banned or something?

JDog · 12-02-2003, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by Brad-Wishing
Nice... those work.

Hey - you know what? The internet has commercials. They are "popups". To help PAY for the shit they are looking at for FREE they should be FORCED to look at a popup every once in awhile.

Not popup hell, but "intersticials".

When I get a popup I don't freak out... when I get a spam I don't lose all control and go nuts. I close it. I press delete.

Everyone is capable of this.

Actually, some popups are harder than hell to close

They take you into popup hell!

jDOoG

Serge_Oprano · 12-02-2003, 07:23 PM

c'mon, John, don't play hard to get....

Kick Ass Chat · 12-02-2003, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
what's the point?
if someone purposely chooses to block popups, they're sure as hell not going to buy something from a popup if it gets around their software.

Very Well Said

Brad-Wishing · 12-02-2003, 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by JDog

Actually, some popups are harder than hell to close They take you into popup hell!

jDOoG

Yes and those I completely disagree with. What some people did... chains and impossible closes - that is SO wrong. It fucked it up for everyone.

However I think a single popup on a 24 hour cookie is PERFECTLY acceptable.

bhutocracy · 12-02-2003, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
what's the point?
if someone purposely chooses to block popups, they're sure as hell not going to buy something from a popup if it gets around their software.

1. with google tool bar 2 et al and now IE about to bring out out popup blockers it's not just a small percentage of people with proprietry anti popup software, not just a rabid anti-popup customer base.

2. I would gladly pay to be on the only pop-up even a popup hater sees all day or all week. Hell fucking yeah. No competition. If i could magically wish for it, I would make sure no one else wanted to be there either. consoles make money. it's as simple as that.

psyko514 · 12-02-2003, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²
All very good points , i'm not saying that they wont be picked up soon , but they work now, and if your popping even 1 popunder on your main page on lots of traffic , i guarantee it means more $$$. You can take out the code after , but There are lots of people using popups and popunders right now and making money. So you cant tell me popups dont pay, but i do understand your point.

i don't doubt that popups make money. i use them on my sites. and i don't use a popup blocker. but if i installed/purchased a popup blocker, went to a website, and still got a popup, i wouldn't be happy. i definetly wouldn't buy something from the popup.

psyko514 · 12-02-2003, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad-Wishing
Nice... those work.

Hey - you know what? The internet has commercials. They are "popups". To help PAY for the shit they are looking at for FREE they should be FORCED to look at a popup every once in awhile.

Not popup hell, but "intersticials".

When I get a popup I don't freak out... when I get a spam I don't lose all control and go nuts. I close it. I press delete.

Everyone is capable of this.

that's a weak excuse. the internet doesn't have to be free. if you're running a website and decide to make it free, that's your choice. if you choose to make money off of popups, that's fine too. but if someone installs a popup blocker and you work around it, you're being an ass.

arial · 12-02-2003, 07:27 PM

Just what I've been looking for!

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 07:27 PM

If you have quality sites that are well designed , you dont have/need popups as you can really have time to lavish tme in rich graphics and quality porn/content. But there are lots of tgp's and such with popups right now , infact most adult sites do ( well ill just take a jab at that one ). But i run alot of traffic thru non-adult sites as well and PEOPLE BUY OFF POPUPS ! after adding those versions of popups recently the traffic on the popup banners was up all across the board.

Popunders arent intrusive , and as long as you dont string them along for too long, they are easily closed. I dont even use my popup blocker unless im reviewing galleries/sites.

But some companies take it way too far like offshoreclicks.com that send's the surfer thru like 50 popups.

Wegcash goes a little too far on theirs too. So does pornkings.

kenny · 12-02-2003, 07:29 PM

Popups are SO dead everybody knows adware is where the money is at

Joking

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 07:29 PM

LOL this has turned into a popup Debate. I should have used a poll

Mr Pheer · 12-02-2003, 07:30 PM

well its a neat concept but the google popup blocker still blocks it if you use relaod or the back button

the only time it isnt blocked is if you close the window

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514

that's a weak excuse. the internet doesn't have to be free. if you're running a website and decide to make it free, that's your choice. if you choose to make money off of popups, that's fine too. but if someone installs a popup blocker and you work around it, you're being an ass.

Your right but so is he. The fact is popups and ads will never end and anyone who buys a popup blocker should be complaining to the company not to the site they are visiting.

Lets say for example i run a large font site that gives away free fonts that i have created, Lets say i spend "X" hours a day creating really nice fonts, and i run a small ad on my webpage, but soon im not making so much money and im getting alot of people using and making money off my fonts. So lets say i put a popunder on my download page , and the user gets the free font and i can make a living off my work. Now should i work for free ? I cant do that. Should i close down my site because i cant pay the bills or add that popunder that keeps mr traffic the same , but the money is still coming in ?

I understand your position , your saying if they spent time and money on a blocker and finding a good site why are they getting popups.

Im saying , if you dont like the site then dont come back, that my opinion.

I dont like some sites because of big flash overlays that cover the content, but that doesnt mean i hate flash overlays or that i hate ads. Everyone has to make a living.

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer
well its a neat concept but the google popup blocker still blocks it if you use relaod or the back button

the only time it isnt blocked is if you close the window

I could make it work either way i just used those as basic examples. close window on open and he applet version ( thats the one i think could be very usefull as it gets around all popup blockers. )

It works on google toolbar blocker on all 3.

Ozzymosis1 · 12-02-2003, 07:39 PM

The only one that worked for me was the java aplet.

Deffantly an interesting idea.

{fusion} · 12-02-2003, 07:39 PM

awesome!

smokey you selling the code?

Mr Pheer · 12-02-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²

I could make it work either way i just used those as basic examples. close window on open and he applet version ( thats the one i think could be very usefull as it gets around all popup blockers. )

It works on google toolbar blocker on all 3.

got one that just works like a normal java exit window?

pop up if they leave the page either by closing the window or using the back button? and have links with like onclick="exit=false" so that leaving the page by a link WONT trigger the popup?

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by {fusion}
awesome!

smokey you selling the code?

View source

psyko514 · 12-02-2003, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²

View source

lol

tranza · 12-02-2003, 07:44 PM

The second one was the only one that didn't work.... I'm using Google bar....

BTW: I CAN'T CLOSE THE POPUP OF THE LAST ONE!!!

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer

got one that just works like a normal java exit window?

pop up if they leave the page either by closing the window or using the back button? and have links with like onclick="exit=false" so that leaving the page by a link WONT trigger the popup?

Im not sure what your asking , i just downloaded the google toolbar on a fresh i.e. update, It works on all the links i posted

The first one pops up a window as the page loads.

The second one pops up a window as the page closes.

Leaving the page wont trigger a popup ( on the second example ), but you could make it do that if you edit the code. I didnt do that because it was only an example of a blank page.

The third example is an applet window popup , and it seems to work with any popup blockers.

But the problem is i dont know much about writing applets , and when you click a link in an applet window the google toolbar seems to treat that as a popup ?

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tranza
The second one was the only one that didn't work.... I'm using Google bar....

BTW: I CAN'T CLOSE THE POPUP OF THE LAST ONE!!!

I said dont close the main window before you close the applet window, You have to go back to the page that triggered the popup and click inside the applet and press a key on your keyboard and it will close the popup

Mr Pheer · 12-02-2003, 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²

Im not sure what your asking , i just downloaded the google toolbar on a fresh i.e. update, It works on all the links i posted

The first one pops up a window as the page loads.

The second one pops up a window as the page closes.

Leaving the page wont trigger a popup ( on the second example ), but you could make it do that if you edit the code. I didnt do that because it was only an example of a blank page.

The third example is an applet window popup , and it seems to work with any popup blockers. But the problem is i dont know much about writing applets , and when you click a link in an applet window the google toolbar seems to treat that as a popup ?

Ok do this

copy your url
open a new window, go to any page
then paste your url into the addy window and go to your page with the exit code
now click back to go to the first page
google popup blocker blocks your code

but if you close the window instead of clicking back, the popup works

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer

Ok do this

copy your url
open a new window, go to any page
then paste your url into the addy window and go to your page with the exit code
now click back to go to the first page
google popup blocker blocks your code

but if you close the window instead of clicking back, the popup works

Yes ! ok i thought thats what you meant

stocktrader23 · 12-02-2003, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514

i don't doubt that popups make money. i use them on my sites. and i don't use a popup blocker. but if i installed/purchased a popup blocker, went to a website, and still got a popup, i wouldn't be happy. i definetly wouldn't buy something from the popup.

You wouldn't buy something from the popup, I wouldn't buy anymore shit from the fools that sold me the popup blocker.

baddog · 12-02-2003, 07:53 PM

the answer to popup blockers is this - don't worry, it is not a popup

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
the answer to popup blockers is this - don't worry, it is not a popup

I dont really see the difference in those than popups other than they dont open new windows.

Flash overlays are much more effective than dhtml popups.

I have tried the gambit.

some_idiot · 12-02-2003, 07:58 PM

Old news, I even posted a link to the source code to do this months ago.

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

You wouldn't buy something from the popup, I wouldn't buy anymore shit from the fools that sold me the popup blocker.

Its funny that you said that because i bet the very first person to buy something off the popup would be the same fool that bought the popup blocker. I mean seriously, who PAID for a popup blocker. LOL

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by some_idiot
Old news, I even posted a link to the source code to do this months ago.

These are new ones . Those old ones dont work. And the source code isnt hidden its in plain view, (view:source).

Serge_Oprano · 12-02-2003, 08:00 PM

Smockey, what were you banned for yesterday?

tranza · 12-02-2003, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²

I said dont close the main window before you close the applet window, You have to go back to the page that triggered the popup and click inside the applet and press a key on your keyboard and it will close the popup

Ah... ok..... so the regular surfer would never be able to close this window.... right???

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 08:01 PM

BTW i found the wickedest flaw in GFY yet today

I bet if someone unleashed it , it could cripple a board.

If anyone runs the same version of this board. You should get me to contact you.

Rorschach · 12-02-2003, 08:03 PM

None of those work with Slackware 9.1 and Opera 7.21 (and no java installed).

baddog · 12-02-2003, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²

I dont really see the difference in those than popups other than they dont open new windows.

Flash overlays are much more effective than dhtml popups.

I have tried the gambit.

guess you did not read the text on the page . . . this is a sliding ads generator and can use with static, animated, flash, movie, audio files and more.

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by tranza

Ah... ok..... so the regular surfer would never be able to close this window.... right???

No, No that would be cruel and would never make you any money , But what you would do is make a button on the page that loads the applet popup window and it would say , to close the popup ad "click here" , Or "im not interested"

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog

guess you did not read the text on the page . . . this is a sliding ads generator and can use with static, animated, flash, movie, audio files and more.

They mean the flash is dhtml driven, the audio and movie parts , just mean flash in general, so basically , you either are making dhtml popups OR flash overlays. Since we already know how to do both of those, we would do one or the other.

But regardless of what it does , its basically the same as popups or flash overlays. Thats what my point was.

stocktrader23 · 12-02-2003, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by Smokey The Bear²

No, No that would be cruel and would never make you any money , But what you would do is make a button on the page that loads the applet popup window and it would say , to close the popup ad "click here" , Or "im not interested"

How do you put your page in the applet one?

Smokey The Bear² · 12-02-2003, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by Rorschach
None of those work with Slackware 9.1 and Opera 7.21 (and no java installed).

Yah but neither does anything else the web has to offer

.

Seriously if your running that then you cant access about anythng the internet has to offer.

Copper_Wulf · 12-02-2003, 08:10 PM

First one got by PopupStopper, other two didn't.
With popupstopper turned off, 1 and 2 worked but three still didn't as I have my java APPLET disabled. I just don't think it would be worth anything to me...

Copper Wulf

12-02-2003, 07:12 PM	#1
Smokey The Bear² So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At Home Posts: 82	Beating The Popup Blockers !! I have 3 methods, the third one is the one i'm interested in doing a bit more thinking about , as it could be a great popup tool. Turn on your popup blockers and try these 3. These are totally safe links. <center><b>POPUP ON ENTER<br> http://s89164764.onlinehome.us/gfypop1.html <center><b>POPUP ON EXIT<br> http://s89164764.onlinehome.us/gfypop2.html <center><b>1 UN-CLOSABLE POPUP APPLET AD<br> <i></b>In this demo you can close the popup by clicking back to the main window and pressing a keystroke in the window and it will close, but dont close the window without first closing the popup , or it will stay around.</i> http://s89164764.onlinehome.us/test/ Im interested in the success rate. Its been tested on the yahoo and google popup blockers and it gets around both those on xp and latest i.e.

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Brad-Wishing Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,415	Nice... those work. Hey - you know what? The internet has commercials. They are "popups". To help PAY for the shit they are looking at for FREE they should be FORCED to look at a popup every once in awhile. Not popup hell, but "intersticials". When I get a popup I don't freak out... when I get a spam I don't lose all control and go nuts. I close it. I press delete. Everyone is capable of this. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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Serge_Oprano So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,820	c'mon, John, don't play hard to get....

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Copper_Wulf Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 13	First one got by PopupStopper, other two didn't. With popupstopper turned off, 1 and 2 worked but three still didn't as I have my java APPLET disabled. I just don't think it would be worth anything to me... Copper Wulf