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PSWEileen · 10-03-2002, 06:46 AM

Hello Everyone,

Note to our international clients :: PSW is in the process of setting up 6 additional banks. One in each of the foriegn regions that Visa is requiring, so nothing will have to change for our foreign clients. International clients will still be able to process with PSW!!! We at psw will do all that we can to make this as seamless as possible. We will post more info on our site as we receive it including the fees that Visa will be requiring.

Fuck Visa...just had to add that!

Jizar II · 10-03-2002, 06:47 AM

thats the spirit!

Jon · 10-03-2002, 06:51 AM

how about fuck visa and ibill!

Socks · 10-03-2002, 06:52 AM

What are the six regions? What about Canada?

Troels · 10-03-2002, 06:52 AM

And that's the same fucking thing epoch, ibill, ccbill etc should do...

Great work pswbilling.com !!!!!

ControlThy · 10-03-2002, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PSWEileen
Hello Everyone,

Fuck Visa...just had to add that!

For your sake, I hope there aren't any VISA people around here or they will cut processing for your little processing company.

;-)

RussianSubmitter · 10-03-2002, 06:56 AM

PSW rocks as usual

If only you guys offer reliable partnership program and be better with rebills, I would have your banner for free

PornBroker · 10-03-2002, 06:56 AM

Is Australia one of the 6?

PSWEileen · 10-03-2002, 06:58 AM

I will post more info as I receive it!!!! It helps that our owner and CEO is one of the original "adult webmasters"... he is pretty pissed off.

Things are quite hectic here!!!

I think I need a smoke break...

Eileen

10-03-2002, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PSWEileen
Hello Everyone,

Note to our international clients :: PSW is in the process of setting up 6 additional banks. One in each of the foriegn regions that Visa is requiring, so nothing will have to change for our foreign clients. International clients will still be able to process with PSW!!! We at psw will do all that we can to make this as seamless as possible. We will post more info on our site as we receive it including the fees that Visa will be requiring.

Fuck Visa...just had to add that!

Sounds like very good news!! I'm in a EU country and was thinking about if PSW (or others) started a department/additional bank in one EU country, ie. UK - is it ok to just have a EU (ie. france) company then or do it need to be a UK company?

Krome · 10-03-2002, 07:03 AM

Being a stinky brit like myself who uses 4 processors do I have to pay $750 per processor?

ControlThy · 10-03-2002, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome
Being a stinky brit like myself who uses 4 processors do I have to pay $750 per processor?

If you want to keep all 4, yes.

sexyclicks · 10-03-2002, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome
Being a stinky brit like myself who uses 4 processors do I have to pay $750 per processor?

yes

Daymare · 10-03-2002, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krome
Being a stinky brit like myself who uses 4 processors do I have to pay $750 per processor?

Yes.

Jizar II · 10-03-2002, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PSWEileen
Note to our international clients :: PSW is in the process of setting up 6 additional banks. One in each of the foriegn regions that Visa is requiring, so nothing will have to change for our foreign clients.

Why is this not the case with Epoch, CCbill ect it seems to be the only natural thing to do?

Krome · 10-03-2002, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Daymare,sexyclicks and ControlThy

Yes.

FUCKING BOLLOCKS

McAttack · 10-03-2002, 08:13 AM

PSWEileen,

Can you please post the 6 countries that are mentionned and a time frame on them when you have that information please?

PSWEileen · 10-03-2002, 08:17 AM

I am waiting for our owner to call and let us know!!

Jizar II · 10-03-2002, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by McAttack
PSWEileen,

Can you please post the 6 countries that are mentionned and a time frame on them when you have that information please?

USA
Malawi
Nepal
Tanzania
Ethiopia
Guinea-Bissau

I am so fucking angry right now.. need to write something funny..sorry!

VISA

chodadog · 10-03-2002, 08:22 AM

Let's just hope all the processors do the same. Nice work PSW!

PSWEileen · 10-03-2002, 08:23 AM

My mistake---it will be divided into regions--not countries. We will let you guys know ASAP. We are working on a press release, but we want to wait till we have everything worked out first!!

PornBroker · 10-03-2002, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jizar II

USA
Malawi
Nepal
Tanzania
Ethiopia
Guinea-Bissau

I am so fucking angry right now.. need to write something funny..sorry! VISA

I laughed!!

the indigo · 10-03-2002, 08:26 AM

That's exactly what I don't understand in the situation of CCBill, Epoch and IBill... what the fuck were they thinking? They had 6 months + to deal with that problem, and they just didnt give a fuck.

McAttack · 10-03-2002, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jizar II

USA
Malawi
Nepal
Tanzania
Ethiopia
Guinea-Bissau

Hmmmm I think I'll move to.... Tanzania! Hehhee

crazydevs · 10-03-2002, 08:41 AM

Hey guys, first time posting here, someone just dropped me a link to this thread and i wanted to put my 2 cents in...

Im still a little confused, i signed onto ccbill this morning and this little pop up apears with all this visa shit, dumb ccbill cookied the window so i only saw it once, and cant get it back now without deleting cookies and shit..tossers.. this should be front page news!

Ive pieced togtehr bits and from what i can work out is their seems to be the ever hanging $750 charge on my neck... whats this all about?

Im based in the UK, i run a great deal of adult sites using both ccbill and ibill, surely if i have to pay them BOTH im going to have to drop either ccbill or ibill, whats the point of two of them if its gonna cost me $750 extra??

What the fuck is all this "to be paid before nov 15th"?? they might aswell have just fucking invoiced me really, i mean come on, 30 days notice to pay other wise i cant use visa? and the ibill etc only just found out about this?? BOLLOX, they should have done the decent thing and made this public along time ago
! instaed they hide it and try and bully webmasters, with the, you do this or you dont use us at all shit..its just utter shit..

hmmm, im still getting over the stitch up with the visa regs on content, i lost alot of shit from that, money doesnt come easy, and now this.. god damm it, wtf is going on??

I tell you what if they carry on like this im going 100% dialers.. im not getting stictched up all the time by Visa.. im really not, if they dont want my business fuck um. ill take it elsewhere, its really sad its coming to this..

VISA can kiss my ______

playa · 10-03-2002, 08:45 AM

wow someone actually thought of a good solution

MikeyBoy · 10-03-2002, 08:51 AM

Boy am I glad I was setup with PSW last month!
Hope this works!

What makes me wonder is that CCBill Ron C or whatever his name is says that ibill,epoch and cc bill has been negotiating with visa for the last couple of months, so they basically knew what was gonna happen right?

Well why the fuck didn't they then have a solution ready when they posted yesterday.

Mutt · 10-03-2002, 09:07 AM

Do you honestly think that PSWBilling and Globill have a solution that neither IBILL, CCBill or Epoch thought about? What are the odds all three of those companies were caught sleeping?

The reason IBill, CCBill and Epoch don't have a solution is because to protect their business and those of their clients are COMPLYING with what VISA is demanding, to the letter of the law.

There are no banks in Canada that offer merchant accounts for Adult Internet subscription sites. I'm pretty sure Australia is the same. Great Britain same. Ever wonder why there aren't third party processors in any of those countries?

So for those of you giving GloBill and PSWBilling big pats on the back, make sure you ask the right questions before entrusting your and your partners business with them.

You could be losing your right to get ANY third party processing
in the future should something go wrong with their plans.

I'm not saying I know if Globill's and PSWBilling's plan are feasible or low risk, just ask the right questions and demand full answers.

The cost of getting a US corporation isn't great.

MikeyBoy · 10-03-2002, 09:19 AM

lol mutt u crack me up
no 3party processors elsewhere
haha
how many you want me to mention?

visionbill.com
dutchbilling.com
i have lots more!!!
and i think that great britian goes under the region europe not sure though

hyper · 10-03-2002, 09:25 AM

there is only one sure solution..

let your members get their access with jesus dialer

crazydevs · 10-03-2002, 09:27 AM

Thats the take i had on it to..

Ibill and ccbill etc are going to loose ALOT of money from this, im sure if their was an easy solution they would have told us by now.

At the end of the day, most of us, myself included are actually waiting for some kind of official word from any processor,,, even PSW has not given us any definate answer, although I appreciate their honesty....

For now all i can see as a solution is to get everything up via dialer payments, and then work on maybe getting something dutch based up and running, of course, were probaly still going to loose US transactions, but maybe a shift towards the european market wont be such a bad thing.. people seem to like dialers more in that part of the world though, cards may not work, but fuck it, who knows.. im planning backups. but hoping for the best....

For me I see an end to the US customer... but hey, its americans doing this to americans, you guys suffer just as much as me, if you want to pay for a great european porn site and you crappy US visa wont let you do it... lol

Who knows, maybe the whole porn industry will merge as one big C/Card company ...beaVerISA anyone?

I'm Slim · 10-03-2002, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by McAttack

Hmmmm I think I'll move to.... Tanzania! Hehhee

Think they have high speed access? Even if they dont, im sure its better then Videotron!

EscortBiz · 12-03-2003, 12:05 PM

This thread needed a bump to show where the problem started

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-03-2003, 12:13 PM

"COMPLYING with what VISA is demanding, to the letter of the law."

Umm.. No...

It is extortion on an entire industry.
These are not laws, they are rules laid out by a institution.

ztik · 12-03-2003, 12:27 PM

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10-03-2002, 06:46 AM	#1
PSWEileen Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: VA Posts: 11	Visa Regulations Hello Everyone, Note to our international clients :: PSW is in the process of setting up 6 additional banks. One in each of the foriegn regions that Visa is requiring, so nothing will have to change for our foreign clients. International clients will still be able to process with PSW!!! We at psw will do all that we can to make this as seamless as possible. We will post more info on our site as we receive it including the fees that Visa will be requiring. Fuck Visa...just had to add that!

10-03-2002, 06:51 AM	#3
Jon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 2,578	how about fuck visa and ibill! __________________ WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

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10-03-2002, 06:47 AM	#2
Jizar II Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: LLL© Posts: 1,425	thats the spirit!

10-03-2002, 06:52 AM	#4
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	What are the six regions? What about Canada?

10-03-2002, 06:52 AM	#5
Troels Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Between the clouds Posts: 1,035	And that's the same fucking thing epoch, ibill, ccbill etc should do... Great work pswbilling.com !!!!!

10-03-2002, 06:58 AM	#9
PSWEileen Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: VA Posts: 11	I will post more info as I receive it!!!! It helps that our owner and CEO is one of the original "adult webmasters"... he is pretty pissed off. Things are quite hectic here!!! I think I need a smoke break... Eileen

10-03-2002, 07:03 AM	#11
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	Being a stinky brit like myself who uses 4 processors do I have to pay $750 per processor?

10-03-2002, 08:17 AM	#18
PSWEileen Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: VA Posts: 11	I am waiting for our owner to call and let us know!!

10-03-2002, 08:22 AM	#20
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Let's just hope all the processors do the same. Nice work PSW!

10-03-2002, 08:23 AM	#21
PSWEileen Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: VA Posts: 11	My mistake---it will be divided into regions--not countries. We will let you guys know ASAP. We are working on a press release, but we want to wait till we have everything worked out first!!

10-03-2002, 08:26 AM	#23
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	That's exactly what I don't understand in the situation of CCBill, Epoch and IBill... what the fuck were they thinking? They had 6 months + to deal with that problem, and they just didnt give a fuck.

10-03-2002, 08:41 AM	#25
crazydevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4	Hey guys, first time posting here, someone just dropped me a link to this thread and i wanted to put my 2 cents in... Im still a little confused, i signed onto ccbill this morning and this little pop up apears with all this visa shit, dumb ccbill cookied the window so i only saw it once, and cant get it back now without deleting cookies and shit..tossers.. this should be front page news! Ive pieced togtehr bits and from what i can work out is their seems to be the ever hanging $750 charge on my neck... whats this all about? Im based in the UK, i run a great deal of adult sites using both ccbill and ibill, surely if i have to pay them BOTH im going to have to drop either ccbill or ibill, whats the point of two of them if its gonna cost me $750 extra?? What the fuck is all this "to be paid before nov 15th"?? they might aswell have just fucking invoiced me really, i mean come on, 30 days notice to pay other wise i cant use visa? and the ibill etc only just found out about this?? BOLLOX, they should have done the decent thing and made this public along time ago ! instaed they hide it and try and bully webmasters, with the, you do this or you dont use us at all shit..its just utter shit.. hmmm, im still getting over the stitch up with the visa regs on content, i lost alot of shit from that, money doesnt come easy, and now this.. god damm it, wtf is going on?? I tell you what if they carry on like this im going 100% dialers.. im not getting stictched up all the time by Visa.. im really not, if they dont want my business fuck um. ill take it elsewhere, its really sad its coming to this.. VISA can kiss my ______ Last edited by crazydevs; 10-03-2002 at 08:43 AM..

10-03-2002, 08:45 AM	#26
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	wow someone actually thought of a good solution

10-03-2002, 08:51 AM	#27
MikeyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 537	Boy am I glad I was setup with PSW last month! Hope this works! What makes me wonder is that CCBill Ron C or whatever his name is says that ibill,epoch and cc bill has been negotiating with visa for the last couple of months, so they basically knew what was gonna happen right? Well why the fuck didn't they then have a solution ready when they posted yesterday.

10-03-2002, 09:07 AM	#28
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Do you honestly think that PSWBilling and Globill have a solution that neither IBILL, CCBill or Epoch thought about? What are the odds all three of those companies were caught sleeping? The reason IBill, CCBill and Epoch don't have a solution is because to protect their business and those of their clients are COMPLYING with what VISA is demanding, to the letter of the law. There are no banks in Canada that offer merchant accounts for Adult Internet subscription sites. I'm pretty sure Australia is the same. Great Britain same. Ever wonder why there aren't third party processors in any of those countries? So for those of you giving GloBill and PSWBilling big pats on the back, make sure you ask the right questions before entrusting your and your partners business with them. You could be losing your right to get ANY third party processing in the future should something go wrong with their plans. I'm not saying I know if Globill's and PSWBilling's plan are feasible or low risk, just ask the right questions and demand full answers. The cost of getting a US corporation isn't great. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

10-03-2002, 09:19 AM	#29
MikeyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 537	lol mutt u crack me up no 3party processors elsewhere haha how many you want me to mention? visionbill.com dutchbilling.com i have lots more!!! and i think that great britian goes under the region europe not sure though

10-03-2002, 09:25 AM	#30
hyper Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Ass Posts: 5,294	there is only one sure solution.. let your members get their access with jesus dialer __________________

10-03-2002, 09:27 AM	#31
crazydevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4	Thats the take i had on it to.. Ibill and ccbill etc are going to loose ALOT of money from this, im sure if their was an easy solution they would have told us by now. At the end of the day, most of us, myself included are actually waiting for some kind of official word from any processor,,, even PSW has not given us any definate answer, although I appreciate their honesty.... For now all i can see as a solution is to get everything up via dialer payments, and then work on maybe getting something dutch based up and running, of course, were probaly still going to loose US transactions, but maybe a shift towards the european market wont be such a bad thing.. people seem to like dialers more in that part of the world though, cards may not work, but fuck it, who knows.. im planning backups. but hoping for the best.... For me I see an end to the US customer... but hey, its americans doing this to americans, you guys suffer just as much as me, if you want to pay for a great european porn site and you crappy US visa wont let you do it... lol Who knows, maybe the whole porn industry will merge as one big C/Card company ...beaVerISA anyone?

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