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Nydahl · 11-27-2003, 03:31 PM

I have heard something about some indians bringing turkey to first colonists before winter or what.
What is the story?

Juggernaut · 11-27-2003, 03:39 PM

Thanksgiving is a holiday to celebrate the first time the pilgrims ate with the Indians.

If you read any of their "history" books.

freeadultcontent · 11-27-2003, 03:52 PM

majority indian myself

Lets dispell some myths

Yes it is a holiday that somehow got tied to the pilgrims and the indians. Though it never was celebrated in reality back then. Wasnt until a letter writting campaign that went on for decades by one woman that Lincoln caved and made it a national holiday to give thanks "to god".

Yet if we wish to go to folklore and myth in regards to pilgrims and indians. Lets set a couple facts straight right now.
1. Probably no turkeys were served.
2. Meal would of mostly been lobster, oysters, eels, nuts, berries, and wild game.
3. There was no cider, everyone drank beer or rum even the kids.
4. Pumkin pie or whatever is highly unlikely.
5. Cranberries would of been out of the question since sugar was so rare and or expensive.

Ok the turkey did not get the hold on thankgiving until the late fourties around the time of a Rockwell painting, and that was the end of various main dishes. Before that painting of a family at the dinner table and a woman bringing in a plater with a perfectly golden bird on it, people in general served whatever. From ham, duck, goose, chicken, or whatever they happened to have.

Just like the idea of what santa claus looks like and his red and white colors (thanks coca cola), turkeys and thankgiving are just the results of a sucessfull advertising campaign.

MichaelAncher · 11-27-2003, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent
majority indian myself

Lets dispell some myths

Yes it is a holiday that somehow got tied to the pilgrims and the indians. Though it never was celebrated in reality back then. Wasnt until a letter writting campaign that went on for decades by one woman that Lincoln caved and made it a national holiday to give thanks "to god".

Yet if we wish to go to folklore and myth in regards to pilgrims and indians. Lets set a couple facts straight right now.
1. Probably no turkeys were served.
2. Meal would of mostly been lobster, oysters, eels, nuts, berries, and wild game.
3. There was no cider, everyone drank beer or rum even the kids.
4. Pumkin pie or whatever is highly unlikely.
5. Cranberries would of been out of the question since sugar was so rare and or expensive.

Ok the turkey did not get the hold on thankgiving until the late fourties around the time of a Rockwell painting, and that was the end of various main dishes. Before that painting of a family at the dinner table and a woman bringing in a plater with a perfectly golden bird on it, people in general served whatever. From ham, duck, goose, chicken, or whatever they happened to have.

Just like the idea of what santa claus looks like and his red and white colors (thanks coca cola), turkeys and thankgiving are just the results of a sucessfull advertising campaign.

Very interesting...thank's and happy thanksgiving...

Just one small thing..Santa has been dressed in red and white long before anybody knew anything about Coca Cola...

freeadultcontent · 11-27-2003, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by MichaelAncher

Very interesting...thank's and happy thanksgiving...

Just one small thing..Santa has been dressed in red and white long before anybody knew anything about Coca Cola...

Check again

The idea of a jolly fat man in a red suit and with white hair was not the standard until Coke said so. Before that sometimes he was thin, sometimes he had blonde hair and so on.

DarkJedi · 11-27-2003, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Nydahl
What is the story?

the genocide of native americans

Gemini · 11-27-2003, 04:56 PM

ATTEMPTED Genocide... they didn't get 'em all.

Yakuza · 11-27-2003, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
the genocide of native americans

bingo

MichaelAncher · 11-27-2003, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent

Check again

The idea of a jolly fat man in a red suit and with white hair was not the standard until Coke said so. Before that sometimes he was thin, sometimes he had blonde hair and so on.

This is a drawing from 1852 made by Thomas Nast from Germany

It was this actual drawing that inspired Haddon Sundblom (from Coca Cola ) in 1931, to make the drawing of Santa, as we see and know him today.

So he was red, white and round before Coca Cola...

Dugan · 11-27-2003, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by MichaelAncher

This is a drawing from 1852 made by Thomas Nast from Germany

It was this actual drawing that inspired Haddon Sundblom (from Coca Cola ) in 1931, to make the drawing of Santa, as we see and know him today.

So he was red, white and round before Coca Cola...

true, but nobody would know him as that today most likely if it weren't for the mass adds, we'd probably have a santa that looked closer to a father christmas or such

katsuki · 11-27-2003, 07:43 PM

interesting...
whos father christmas then? i thought he was santa??

digifan · 11-27-2003, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by katsuki
interesting...
whos father christmas then? i thought he was santa??

Can santa be me.. so be a good girl, will you? And you'll get nice gifts

freeadultcontent · 11-27-2003, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by MichaelAncher

This is a drawing from 1852 made by Thomas Nast from Germany

It was this actual drawing that inspired Haddon Sundblom (from Coca Cola ) in 1931, to make the drawing of Santa, as we see and know him today.

So he was red, white and round before Coca Cola...

Ok you can do real research

I was just insisting that Sundblom (coca cola) made it the norm, not saying they invented the look.

SlutFinder · 11-27-2003, 09:14 PM

good post all i knew was it was an american holiday nothing more

Nydahl · 11-28-2003, 03:38 AM

Interesting to read thanks guys

Also I didn't know that Michael is expert of US history

MichaelAncher · 11-28-2003, 06:26 AM

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Originally posted by Nydahl
Interesting to read thanks guys
Also I didn't know that Michael is expert of US history

GOOGLE my friend, GOOGLE....

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