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Nydahl 11-27-2003 03:31 PM

what is that Thanksgivingday?
 
I have heard something about some indians bringing turkey to first colonists before winter or what.
What is the story?

Juggernaut 11-27-2003 03:39 PM

Thanksgiving is a holiday to celebrate the first time the pilgrims ate with the Indians.

If you read any of their "history" books.

freeadultcontent 11-27-2003 03:52 PM

majority indian myself

Lets dispell some myths :winkwink:

Yes it is a holiday that somehow got tied to the pilgrims and the indians. Though it never was celebrated in reality back then. Wasnt until a letter writting campaign that went on for decades by one woman that Lincoln caved and made it a national holiday to give thanks "to god".

Yet if we wish to go to folklore and myth in regards to pilgrims and indians. Lets set a couple facts straight right now.
1. Probably no turkeys were served.
2. Meal would of mostly been lobster, oysters, eels, nuts, berries, and wild game.
3. There was no cider, everyone drank beer or rum even the kids.
4. Pumkin pie or whatever is highly unlikely.
5. Cranberries would of been out of the question since sugar was so rare and or expensive.


Ok the turkey did not get the hold on thankgiving until the late fourties around the time of a Rockwell painting, and that was the end of various main dishes. Before that painting of a family at the dinner table and a woman bringing in a plater with a perfectly golden bird on it, people in general served whatever. From ham, duck, goose, chicken, or whatever they happened to have.

Just like the idea of what santa claus looks like and his red and white colors (thanks coca cola), turkeys and thankgiving are just the results of a sucessfull advertising campaign.

MichaelAncher 11-27-2003 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by freeadultcontent
majority indian myself

Lets dispell some myths :winkwink:

Yes it is a holiday that somehow got tied to the pilgrims and the indians. Though it never was celebrated in reality back then. Wasnt until a letter writting campaign that went on for decades by one woman that Lincoln caved and made it a national holiday to give thanks "to god".

Yet if we wish to go to folklore and myth in regards to pilgrims and indians. Lets set a couple facts straight right now.
1. Probably no turkeys were served.
2. Meal would of mostly been lobster, oysters, eels, nuts, berries, and wild game.
3. There was no cider, everyone drank beer or rum even the kids.
4. Pumkin pie or whatever is highly unlikely.
5. Cranberries would of been out of the question since sugar was so rare and or expensive.


Ok the turkey did not get the hold on thankgiving until the late fourties around the time of a Rockwell painting, and that was the end of various main dishes. Before that painting of a family at the dinner table and a woman bringing in a plater with a perfectly golden bird on it, people in general served whatever. From ham, duck, goose, chicken, or whatever they happened to have.

Just like the idea of what santa claus looks like and his red and white colors (thanks coca cola), turkeys and thankgiving are just the results of a sucessfull advertising campaign.


Very interesting...thank's and happy thanksgiving...:drinkup


Just one small thing..Santa has been dressed in red and white long before anybody knew anything about Coca Cola...:)

freeadultcontent 11-27-2003 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by MichaelAncher



Very interesting...thank's and happy thanksgiving...:drinkup


Just one small thing..Santa has been dressed in red and white long before anybody knew anything about Coca Cola...:)

Check again :winkwink:

The idea of a jolly fat man in a red suit and with white hair was not the standard until Coke said so. Before that sometimes he was thin, sometimes he had blonde hair and so on.

DarkJedi 11-27-2003 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Nydahl
What is the story?

the genocide of native americans

Gemini 11-27-2003 04:56 PM

ATTEMPTED Genocide... they didn't get 'em all. :glugglug

Yakuza 11-27-2003 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
the genocide of native americans
bingo :thumbsup

MichaelAncher 11-27-2003 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeadultcontent


Check again :winkwink:

The idea of a jolly fat man in a red suit and with white hair was not the standard until Coke said so. Before that sometimes he was thin, sometimes he had blonde hair and so on.


This is a drawing from 1852 made by Thomas Nast from Germany

It was this actual drawing that inspired Haddon Sundblom (from Coca Cola ) in 1931, to make the drawing of Santa, as we see and know him today.

So he was red, white and round before Coca Cola...:drinkup

http://www.glamourgirls.biz/gfy/santa.jpg

Dugan 11-27-2003 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by MichaelAncher



This is a drawing from 1852 made by Thomas Nast from Germany

It was this actual drawing that inspired Haddon Sundblom (from Coca Cola ) in 1931, to make the drawing of Santa, as we see and know him today.

So he was red, white and round before Coca Cola...:drinkup

http://www.glamourgirls.biz/gfy/santa.jpg

true, but nobody would know him as that today most likely if it weren't for the mass adds, we'd probably have a santa that looked closer to a father christmas or such

katsuki 11-27-2003 07:43 PM

interesting...
whos father christmas then? i thought he was santa?? :eek7

digifan 11-27-2003 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by katsuki
interesting...
whos father christmas then? i thought he was santa?? :eek7

Can santa be me.. so be a good girl, will you? And you'll get nice gifts :)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

freeadultcontent 11-27-2003 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MichaelAncher



This is a drawing from 1852 made by Thomas Nast from Germany

It was this actual drawing that inspired Haddon Sundblom (from Coca Cola ) in 1931, to make the drawing of Santa, as we see and know him today.

So he was red, white and round before Coca Cola...:drinkup

http://www.glamourgirls.biz/gfy/santa.jpg

Ok you can do real research :winkwink:
I was just insisting that Sundblom (coca cola) made it the norm, not saying they invented the look.

SlutFinder 11-27-2003 09:14 PM

good post all i knew was it was an american holiday nothing more

Nydahl 11-28-2003 03:38 AM

Interesting to read thanks guys:thumbsup
Also I didn't know that Michael is expert of US history:thumbsup

MichaelAncher 11-28-2003 06:26 AM

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Originally posted by Nydahl
Interesting to read thanks guys:thumbsup
Also I didn't know that Michael is expert of US history:thumbsup


GOOGLE my friend, GOOGLE....:drinkup


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