WTF does Google PR really mean???? - GoFuckYourself.com

Choker · 11-24-2003, 10:56 PM

Anyone have the time to explain to me the significance of PR ratings? I have many sites that are 6 and some 8, but what exactly does it mean?

cluck · 11-24-2003, 11:00 PM

It's a meter of "importance". It's a logrithmic scale of how "good" your site is compared to every other site on the web. Each time you link out to someone, a part of their PR is duplicated and added on yours. When it's all averaged out you get the number based on what range your site falls into.

funkmaster · 11-24-2003, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
Anyone have the time to explain to me the significance of PR ratings? I have many sites that are 6 and some 8, but what exactly does it mean?

PR means PageRank ... that easy.

Choker · 11-24-2003, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by cluck
It's a meter of "importance". It's a logrithmic scale of how "good" your site is compared to every other site on the web. Each time you link out to someone, a part of their PR is duplicated and added on yours. When it's all averaged out you get the number based on what range your site falls into.

Does the PR play a big role in SE searches?

vicki · 11-24-2003, 11:02 PM

its google's internal ranking system for sites hon.

it does NOT mean you must have a high PR to get a good google listing as some 'think they knows' say
its only one small piece of the whole pie they use to calculate

thats the simple answer lol

Choker · 11-24-2003, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by cluck
It's a meter of "importance". It's a logrithmic scale of how "good" your site is compared to every other site on the web. Each time you link out to someone, a part of their PR is duplicated and added on yours. When it's all averaged out you get the number based on what range your site falls into.

Ok this explains why I have so many sites with high PR's. I link to my own sites on my sites. So as a group they feed each others PR rating I take it. Even my trade signup pages have PR's of 6. Wierd.

chowda · 11-24-2003, 11:06 PM

notthat many sites have a pr8. thats at a big level. yahoo is an occational 9.

cluck · 11-24-2003, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

Does the PR play a big role in SE searches?

For more competative terms, it seems to play a big role. It's more important that the anchor text of your inbound links be relevant to the content of your site. The content of course factors in keyword density, etc. When it comes to optimizing it's easy to get a #1 spot on a specific not competitive keywords, I get tons of them regularly. When there's 50 other sites optimized just as good as yours PR and luck become huge factors.

cluck · 11-24-2003, 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

Ok this explains why I have so many sites with high PR's. I link to my own sites on my sites. So as a group they feed each others PR rating I take it. Even my trade signup pages have PR's of 6. Wierd.

Yeah, there's actually a formula you can use to figure out how much PR each page on your site will end up with based on your internal linking structure. It's not exact but when repeated alot of times it's very accurate. A PR8 is very high and will pass ALOT of PR to reciprocal links. Remember it's lothricmic so a PR8 can be considered roughly twice as good as a PR7 and so on(so alot of people believe, me being one of them).

Choker · 11-24-2003, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by chowda
notthat many sites have a pr8. thats at a big level. yahoo is an occational 9.

That's what I thought, I keep seeing higher and higher PR on my sites and I don't understand why. http://www.chokinchicken.com/404.shtml is a 8
http://www.chokinchicken.com/ is a 8
even chickenboard is a 7
No idea why unless it is the way I link to all my sites on each other

vicki · 11-24-2003, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by cluck

For more competative terms, it seems to play a big role. It's more important that the anchor text of your inbound links be relevant to the content of your site. The content of course factors in keyword density, etc. When it comes to optimizing it's easy to get a #1 spot on a specific not competitive keywords, I get tons of them regularly. When there's 50 other sites optimized just as good as yours PR and luck become huge factors.

not necessarily
i have some of the top listings for some VERY competitive terms and don't have more than a 4 or 5 on those domains ... i'm just better at it than most I guess ;)

Juicy D. Links · 11-24-2003, 11:13 PM

The higher the PR the higher your cock size is

chowda · 11-24-2003, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

That's what I thought, I keep seeing higher and higher PR on my sites and I don't understand why. http://www.chokinchicken.com/404.shtml is a 8
http://www.chokinchicken.com/ is a 8
even chickenboard is a 7
No idea why unless it is the way I link to all my sites on each other

ur sites are pr 5's over here. maybe is my google toolbar.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-24-2003, 11:14 PM

A PR 8 404 page...
Now I seen it all!

cluck · 11-24-2003, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by vicki

not necessarily
i have some of the top listings for some VERY competitive terms and don't have more than a 4 or 5 on those domains ... i'm just better at it than most I guess ;)

Well your SEO is alot better than the other 50 sites

11-24-2003, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
The higher the PR the higher your cock size is

[IMG]http://***********/juicypr4.gif[/IMG]

PR4 makes Juicy have little cock.

WiredGuy · 11-24-2003, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by chowda
ur sites are pr 5's over here. maybe is my google toolbar.

it's your toolbar... registers as 8 for me which makes sense for the site's inbound links...

WG

vicki · 11-24-2003, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by cluck

Well your SEO is alot better than the other 50 sites

oh F U N N Y

wonder if worldsex and pk know they are in the loosing end of 49 sites

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-24-2003, 11:19 PM

After looking under your hood I can see why, Or rather understand why now.

Nice one.

Choker · 11-24-2003, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by chowda

ur sites are pr 5's over here. maybe is my google toolbar.

Yep wierd, sometimes they are 5 but usualy 8's. Maybe google is having problems?

cluck · 11-24-2003, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

That's what I thought, I keep seeing higher and higher PR on my sites and I don't understand why. http://www.chokinchicken.com/404.shtml is a 8
http://www.chokinchicken.com/ is a 8
even chickenboard is a 7
No idea why unless it is the way I link to all my sites on each other

Do you link directly to your 404 page? That seems odd that a 404 page gets linked enough to be a PR8.

Choker · 11-24-2003, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by cluck

Do you link directly to your 404 page? That seems odd that a 404 page gets linked enough to be a PR8.

No, but I send all 404 and directory snoopers from 16 servers to that one page.

chowda · 11-24-2003, 11:22 PM

i think this page just got a pr1 for the url's that choker posted. lol

Choker · 11-24-2003, 11:25 PM

I think I need to hire someone to optimize my sites for SE's and get higher listings. I have totally ignored this and need to do it. Any suggestions who is good and affordable to do this?

Choker · 11-24-2003, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by chowda
i think this page just got a pr1 for the url's that choker posted. lol

Actually this thread is a PR 1

chowda · 11-24-2003, 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
I think I need to hire someone to optimize my sites for SE's and get higher listings. I have totally ignored this and need to do it. Any suggestions who is good and affordable to do this?

wait it out until this google update is over.. it has some very odd results lately.

cluck · 11-24-2003, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

No, but I send all 404 and directory snoopers from 16 servers to that one page.

That's the thing, I don't really get how it ended up being spidered let alone get such a big PR boost. Either google is following location headers(which I thought was untrue) or the toolbar is just fucking with you. It's my understanding that sometimes it BS's PR on the toolbar based on similar pages on the sites importance. Like I always thought the GFY threads weren't really PR1, it's just because it's a dynamic page and GFY itself has good PR. How could each individual thread be instantly spidered and indexed?

cluck · 11-24-2003, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
I think I need to hire someone to optimize my sites for SE's and get higher listings. I have totally ignored this and need to do it. Any suggestions who is good and affordable to do this?

I remember searching for some casino traffic on google a week or 2 ago with a VERY broad term like "site traffic" or something like that and chickentraffic was #1. Now I can't find it under any of those terms. It should be good after the update.

Choker · 11-24-2003, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by cluck

That's the thing, I don't really get how it ended up being spidered let alone get such a big PR boost. Either google is following location headers(which I thought was untrue) or the toolbar is just fucking with you. It's my understanding that sometimes it BS's PR on the toolbar based on similar pages on the sites importance. Like I always thought the GFY threads weren't really PR1, it's just because it's a dynamic page and GFY itself has good PR. How could each individual thread be instantly spidered and indexed?

hmmm, is it possible that google spiders htaccess files?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-24-2003, 11:33 PM

I have theory that google will not stop what it is curently doing.

Ya might consider beginning to use a robots.txt file.

vicki · 11-24-2003, 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
I think I need to hire someone to optimize my sites for SE's and get higher listings. I have totally ignored this and need to do it. Any suggestions who is good and affordable to do this?

If I were you I'd wait a short time
google has been running a programming competition
that usually means algorythm tweaks
I'm thinking they are taking into account the blog results but thats just a hunch.

if you want some tips on what questions to ask someone you are thinking of hiring ... you can hit my icq

BTW I only do mainstream SEO projects (then I don't have to compete with myself), so no need to worry .. I won't be slamming you for work

chowda · 11-24-2003, 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
I have theory that google will not stop what it is curently doing.

Ya might consider beginning to use a robots.txt file.

i hope ur wrong.

Juicy D. Links · 11-24-2003, 11:46 PM

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Originally posted by Equinox

[IMG]http://***********/juicypr4.gif[/IMG]

PR4 makes Juicy have little cock.

I meant cold measurements , without WOOD

darnit · 11-25-2003, 01:08 AM

K, noob here, how do you determine goole pr?

ytcracker · 11-25-2003, 01:14 AM

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Originally posted by darnit
K, noob here, how do you determine goole pr?

get the google toolbar.

theres also some scripts out there that can determine it on various programming sites.

swami · 11-25-2003, 02:01 AM

I don't want to but I have to say you are missing out on a shit load of traffic.It would take nothing but a few gaps in your words to start dominating the serps like link-o-rama.
Whoever you hire will make easy money.

skillfull · 11-25-2003, 04:59 AM

a little link for you
http://www.seoposition.com/useful-se...ine-tools.html

hornycash · 11-25-2003, 05:02 AM

PR = Porn Ranking

Trax · 11-25-2003, 06:58 AM

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or leave your email or phone number.
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PornBroker · 11-25-2003, 07:05 AM

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Originally posted by chowda

ur sites are pr 5's over here. maybe is my google toolbar.

PR 5 over here too..

Cash · 11-25-2003, 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by Equinox

[IMG]http://***********/juicypr4.gif[/IMG]

PR4 makes Juicy have little cock.

He needs some penis pills to get that PR growing

Choker · 11-25-2003, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by PornBroker

PR 5 over here too..

Yep 5 for me today, was 8 yesterday. WTF

Basic_man · 11-25-2003, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by chowda
notthat many sites have a pr8. thats at a big level. yahoo is an occational 9.

CA.MSN.com is 8.. and it's a big portal!

Choker · 11-25-2003, 11:44 AM

Fuck now they are 8's again. I think it is obvious that not everyones toolbar records the same PR for the same site. If I visit a few pages of a site, it's PR increases. Anyone else notice this?

ZoiNk · 11-25-2003, 11:48 AM

Why is your 404 page a PR8?

Answer: Google toolbar GUESSES at what PR ranks should be based off of higher directories or base directory. The PR that google toolbar shows is NOT the PR that google actually uses in its indexing. It is a rough estimate, being as it uses whole numbers. If you want the real PR, use directories that you know google is indexing. Also, base domains have the real PR (to within 1 whole number).

Lesson done.
ZoiNk

-=HOAX=- · 11-25-2003, 11:48 AM

I hear google will fake page rank, also, within the algo...pr is actually calculated on a scale of 1 - 200 I believe. Additionally, putting too much weight on PR will have you running in circles smacking yer peter with a wooden spoon (You'll go Bonkers), backlinks baby, backlinks...they are the heart of pr anyway.

Edit: Why is it someone always says it better and sooner than me...*sniffle*

xxxjay · 11-25-2003, 11:55 AM

It seems like it is meaning less and less these days. Some of my sites that have the best / highest PR values are falling way back in the SERPS. I think Google has grown tired of allof these PR jockies and is devaluing it to some degree.

I read on WMW that there is about to be a big change in the google algo.

Try not to shit your pants when it happens.

Choker · 11-25-2003, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by -=HOAX=-
I hear google will fake page rank, also, within the algo...pr is actually calculated on a scale of 1 - 200 I believe. Additionally, putting too much weight on PR will have you running in circles smacking yer peter with a wooden spoon (You'll go Bonkers), backlinks baby, backlinks...they are the heart of pr anyway.

Edit: Why is it someone always says it better and sooner than me...*sniffle*

Yeah I don't have a PR "ego", just trying to figure out a way to make bling off this. I got a few ideas.......

xxxjay · 11-25-2003, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

Yeah I don't have a PR "ego", just trying to figure out a way to make bling off this. I got a few ideas.......

Chocker - By all means do that. PR8 is insane for an adult site. As a matter of fact, I've never even seen it before. It's probably just a hiccup in the system right now, but if I were you I would optimize the hell out of that page. You are in a great position to get some high quality SE traffic.

You can email me at [email protected] if you have any questions.

Choker · 11-25-2003, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by xxxjay

Chocker - By all means do that. PR8 is insane for an adult site. As a matter of fact, I've never even seen it before. It's probably just a hiccup in the system right now, but if I were you I would optimize the hell out of that page. You are in a great position to get some high quality SE traffic.

You can email me at [email protected] if you have any questions.

Can you or anyone else give me a firm quote on optimizing those 2 pages and submitting them, etc. If so I got thousands more that need this done. Maybe even a permament part time guy who takes care of this completely for me?

11-24-2003, 11:00 PM	#2
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vicki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep in the heart o' Texas Posts: 1,478	its google's internal ranking system for sites hon. it does NOT mean you must have a high PR to get a good google listing as some 'think they knows' say its only one small piece of the whole pie they use to calculate thats the simple answer lol __________________ If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment. HR merchant accounts from 3.45% solid biz since 98 victoriakozub AT gmail.com skype: victoria.kozub \| ICQ: 74296746

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11-24-2003, 10:56 PM	#1
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	WTF does Google PR really mean???? Anyone have the time to explain to me the significance of PR ratings? I have many sites that are 6 and some 8, but what exactly does it mean? __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

11-24-2003, 11:13 PM	#12
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11-24-2003, 11:22 PM	#23
chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	i think this page just got a pr1 for the url's that choker posted. lol __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

11-24-2003, 11:25 PM	#24
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	I think I need to hire someone to optimize my sites for SE's and get higher listings. I have totally ignored this and need to do it. Any suggestions who is good and affordable to do this? __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

11-24-2003, 11:33 PM	#30
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	I have theory that google will not stop what it is curently doing. Ya might consider beginning to use a robots.txt file. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

11-25-2003, 01:08 AM	#34
darnit Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Teh Interweb Posts: 2,439	K, noob here, how do you determine goole pr?

11-25-2003, 02:01 AM	#36
swami Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: vanuatu Posts: 1,989	I don't want to but I have to say you are missing out on a shit load of traffic.It would take nothing but a few gaps in your words to start dominating the serps like link-o-rama. Whoever you hire will make easy money.

11-25-2003, 04:59 AM	#37
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11-25-2003, 05:02 AM	#38
hornycash Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: far beyond reality Posts: 2,336	PR = Porn Ranking

11-25-2003, 06:58 AM	#39
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11-25-2003, 11:44 AM	#44
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	Fuck now they are 8's again. I think it is obvious that not everyones toolbar records the same PR for the same site. If I visit a few pages of a site, it's PR increases. Anyone else notice this? __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

11-25-2003, 11:48 AM	#45
ZoiNk Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 2,370	Why is your 404 page a PR8? Answer: Google toolbar GUESSES at what PR ranks should be based off of higher directories or base directory. The PR that google toolbar shows is NOT the PR that google actually uses in its indexing. It is a rough estimate, being as it uses whole numbers. If you want the real PR, use directories that you know google is indexing. Also, base domains have the real PR (to within 1 whole number). Lesson done. ZoiNk __________________ "People can have the Model T in any color - so long as it's black." - Henry Ford

11-25-2003, 11:48 AM	#46
-=HOAX=- Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CrackYaMental Posts: 4,365	I hear google will fake page rank, also, within the algo...pr is actually calculated on a scale of 1 - 200 I believe. Additionally, putting too much weight on PR will have you running in circles smacking yer peter with a wooden spoon (You'll go Bonkers), backlinks baby, backlinks...they are the heart of pr anyway. Edit: Why is it someone always says it better and sooner than me...sniffle __________________ Insert Value Here.

11-25-2003, 11:55 AM	#47
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	It seems like it is meaning less and less these days. Some of my sites that have the best / highest PR values are falling way back in the SERPS. I think Google has grown tired of allof these PR jockies and is devaluing it to some degree. I read on WMW that there is about to be a big change in the google algo. Try not to shit your pants when it happens. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/