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Old 11-24-2003, 01:15 PM   #1
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G A Y Marriages Right or Wrong ?

The highest court in Massachusetts ruled on Tuesday that same-sex couples had the right to marry under the state?s constitution.

The ruling is the first time a United States court has granted the term ?marriage? to same-sex couples, The New York Times reported. In 2000 the state of Vermont allowed same-sex couples the right to civil unions, but avoided the term ?marriage?.

The Supreme Court of Massachusetts ruled that lawmakers had six months to amend the state?s marriage laws, allowing same-sex couples to be granted wedding certificates.

One of the named plaintiffs in the case, Hillary Goodridge, said the decision was ?a profound moment for our family?. In a press release issued by New England?s Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders (GLAD), Goodridge said, ?We will no longer have to try to explain to our eight-year-old daughter why we can?t marry, or that we love each other even though we are not married. And more importantly, we?ll be able to provide Annie with the full protections under marriage that we now can?t possibly provide.?
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Old 11-24-2003, 01:16 PM   #3
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let people do what makes them happy as long as it doenst hurt anyone else
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it's not like gay people are just gonna go away... they're people too whether you agree with their life choice or not. It's only a matter of time before gay people are as openly accepted as hetero people.
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The highest court in Massachusetts ruled on Tuesday that same-sex couples had the right to marry under the state?s constitution.


The Supreme Court of Massachusetts ruled that lawmakers had six months to amend the state?s marriage laws, allowing same-sex couples to be granted wedding certificates.


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Old 11-24-2003, 01:17 PM   #7
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its Adam and Eve NOT Adam and Steve
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its Adam and Eve NOT Adam and Steve

steve was there before eve its just that his cock was bigger than adam's so adam killed him
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Marriages is used to found a family and have kids, this is how our society works!

Fags only wanna fuck and takes drugs, Why the fuck they wanna be married??
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Marriages is used to found a family and have kids, this is how our society works!

Fags only wanna fuck and takes drugs, Why the fuck they wanna be married??
Can anyone believe that there are actually people with these opinions still surviving in 2003
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Old 11-24-2003, 01:38 PM   #11
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puke puke puke..becuase after all there are no het people that want to fuck and take drugs. america has like a 50% divorce rate, and I know gay/les couples that have been together for longer than the legal marriages. fucking wake up. drugs, AIDS, STD, are part of life not just made for and done by gay people. I dont understand how adult webmasters can be so narrow minded against gay people but expect society to be so open minded about their sites.
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Old 11-24-2003, 01:38 PM   #12
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I know several committed gay couples who are much more stable than the majority of hetro couples. If two people love each other and want to commit to each other by being married, more power to them. People have the same rights, whether straight, bi or gay.. why wouldn't it extend to marriage?
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Old 11-24-2003, 01:50 PM   #13
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I believe in the civil union - giving gay couples the same rights afforded to married couples under the LAW.

However, the term MARRIAGE is used for religious purposes. I don't think it is the right of the government to tell the church who it can and cannot marry.

I honestly don't give two shits about the terminology, but I know many religious people that do care, and as unfair as it is to gay people to deny them the rights of marriage, it is equally unfair to deny people the "purity" of their religious beliefs.

The civil union meets them both halfway.
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Old 11-24-2003, 01:52 PM   #14
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Fags only wanna fuck and takes drugs, Why the fuck they wanna be married??
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puke puke puke..becuase after all there are no het people that want to fuck and take drugs. america has like a 50% divorce rate, and I know gay/les couples that have been together for longer than the legal marriages. fucking wake up. drugs, AIDS, STD, are part of life not just made for and done by gay people. I dont understand how adult webmasters can be so narrow minded against gay people but expect society to be so open minded about their sites.
Well said Mitch !!
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Old 11-24-2003, 01:56 PM   #17
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It will be very interesting to see what the divorce rate figures are in comparison between str8 marriages vs. gay in a few years.

Yet for now I cant believe that some continue to believe that being gay automatically means you do drugs, have aids or spread it etc. etc.

Looking over the posts I can pretty much tell tell the ages of some. 50 years ago this argument was over whether blacks and whites should even date!! much less get married. Nothing much has changed I can see.

Is it possible for two men (*or women) to have a loving relationship?? YES.

Is it their right to let others know that they are committed to each other and in love?? YES

Is marriage based simply on sex and the bringing up of family?? NO - if that was the case then childless couples would be banned as well as those who cant have sex due to some physical ailment.

I am really tired of hearing that adam and steve routine - you assume that everyone believes in god. Some are meant to bear children, some are not - its a matter of taste and what you were put in this earth for.

As much as gay marriages may offend some of you - ingorance and a closed mind offends others.
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Old 11-24-2003, 01:57 PM   #18
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Can anyone believe that there are actually people with these opinions still surviving in 2003

agreed you would think that people would live and let live .....

as I have said before.....why the hell does it matter to anyone else if JOE and JOE have a marriage licence?
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Although I do not agree with the life style and get grossed out by from anyone even saying something about gay sex I do think they are entitled to every right everyone else is. If they wanna get married fuck it let them do it. I don't see why some people make a big deal about it, either way marrid or not they're still gona have gay sex and whatever else they do. Let them get married it isn't bothering me and I'm real tense if that's the right word around gay people.

Here's my view on gayness:
I don't have a problem with you if you're gay, unless you try to be gay with me.
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I don't see it as an issue of right or wrong.

Hell, there are straight couples who should not be allowed to procreate OR marry.

It is what it is.

Two people who profess to love each other.

What they do in the bedroom is none of our business.
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WRONG without a doubt marriage is the union between a man and a woman..

At least George Bush is good for 1 thing he will not allow same-sex marriage

Fags can go
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WRONG without a doubt marriage is the union between a man and a woman..

At least George Bush is good for 1 thing he will not allow same-sex marriage

Fags can go
what do you care what gay people do?
where dies this mean spiritedness come from?

It makes no sense to me why anyone would give a fuck about something that won't effect them in any way and yet makes someone else very happy.
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What's the problem with calling it a "civil union"? It gives the same rights under the law as "marriage". Marriage is meant to be between men and women, if gays want to be permanent legal couples, I have no problem with that, but call it civil unions, not marriage. I lived in West Hollywood in LA for years, even had several roommates who were gay during that time, I have no problems with gay people at all, but the term marriage should be reserved for the wedding of a woman and a man...
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Let me pose a question to everyone.....since this naturally follows:

What about adoption?

Right now, if you are single, you cannot adopt, as they (the courts and child welfare authorities), have determined that it takes both genders to do the best thing for the child as far as the childs upbringing is concerned. They have said that it takes a mother and a father.

In a gay union, there is obviously a missing mother, or a missing father.....so.....any thoughts on gay couples adopting? I know that some want to and it would make them happy, but is it in the best interests of the child? If it is wrong for single people, thenwhy would it be right for a gay couple?

just want to see what people think
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Who cares? I mean, it's not my decision if 2 men should be married or not, or 2 women, or if a woman should have an abortion ..

It's not my life, it's theirs. I sure as hell don't like people telling me what or what not to do, or what I should do or can do. It's not my place or anyone elses for that matter either.

We're not exactly working in an industry where we can afford to be predjudiced against sexual orientation of all things ..

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What about adoption?
I don't mind if gays want to adopt a kid, but I disagree with allowing them to adopt until society becomes more accepting of gays.

It is wrong to try and raise a kid in that kind of household. Not because a caring gay couple couldn't do it, but because of the societal stresses it would place on the child.

I can't imagine how fucked up it would be going to school and never being able to bring friends home because you have a dad and a dad, or a mom and a mom...

Imagine how rough it'd be in high school...

But if society was accepting of gays, and it wasn't such a big deal, then I would have no problems with it - for me the issue lies with the kid, not the gay couple.
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Let me pose a question to everyone.....since this naturally follows:

What about adoption?

Right now, if you are single, you cannot adopt, as they (the courts and child welfare authorities), have determined that it takes both genders to do the best thing for the child as far as the childs upbringing is concerned. They have said that it takes a mother and a father.

In a gay union, there is obviously a missing mother, or a missing father.....so.....any thoughts on gay couples adopting? I know that some want to and it would make them happy, but is it in the best interests of the child? If it is wrong for single people, thenwhy would it be right for a gay couple?

just want to see what people think
So, if a couple gets divorced.....and one of the parents disappears....which happens all the time..

does this mean the state should take the kids away?

Two parents is always better than one, true.

Who gives a fuck if they're both men or both women?

Damn. I wish we'd learn, as a society, to mind our own business.
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So, if a couple gets divorced.....and one of the parents disappears....which happens all the time..

does this mean the state should take the kids away?

Two parents is always better than one, true.

Who gives a fuck if they're both men or both women?

Damn. I wish we'd learn, as a society, to mind our own business.
It DOES happen all the time.... it happened to my parents also, but nobody PLANS it that way. There is a HUGE amount of evidence, BTW, that children of divorced and single parent households tend to have a lot more problems and difficulties with life and relationships in general.

So if we are minding our own business, then why don't we just let people marry 10 year old kids, or let parents beat their children as much as they want to? These are extremes, but I'm just making the point that stepping in on behalf of children is not always wrong.
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It DOES happen all the time.... it happened to my parents also, but nobody PLANS it that way. There is a HUGE amount of evidence, BTW, that children of divorced and single parent households tend to have a lot more problems and difficulties with life and relationships in general.

So if we are minding our own business, then why don't we just let people marry 10 year old kids, or let parents beat their children as much as they want to? These are extremes, but I'm just making the point that stepping in on behalf of children is not always wrong.
There's minding one's own business and then there's turning a blind eye toward criminal actions.

Beating a child is criminal.

Gay people marrying is not.

No harm. No foul.
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Some of these arguments are so ridiculous.

Fags do drugs... bullshit. Yes, fags do drugs, but so do a helluva lot of straight folk as well. To make such a comment pointed directly at homosexuals is impish at best.

Should they be allowed to be make life long commitments to each other and have it be recognized by law? Yes. Last I checked (and I believe someone noted it earlier) the current divorce rates are sitting around 40-50%. Sounds to me like heterosexuals are incompetent and can't handle marriage. Why, when heteros can't honour their own marriages, we feel we have the right to decide whether someone else is afforded the same opportunity is beyond me.

Grow up and deal with it. Whether you like it or not, it's going to happen and if you don't learn to accept it you are going to come across just as ignorant and uneducated as KKK members with their ass backwards beliefs.
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Why does it have to be right or wrong? More people need to mind their own business and leave others alone. If two people love each other, that is all that matters.
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At least George Bush is good for 1 thing he will not allow same-sex marriage

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Homosexuality is a brain condition, a chemical imbalance if you will. I think that if retarded people can get married, then gay people should be allowed to get married.

Until they introduce some form of DNA filtering to create perfect human beings, you will have to live in an abnormal world. People can take offence to this all they want.
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Some of these arguments are so ridiculous.

Fags do drugs... bullshit. Yes, fags do drugs, but so do a helluva lot of straight folk as well. To make such a comment pointed directly at homosexuals is impish at best.

Should they be allowed to be make life long commitments to each other and have it be recognized by law? Yes. Last I checked (and I believe someone noted it earlier) the current divorce rates are sitting around 40-50%. Sounds to me like heterosexuals are incompetent and can't handle marriage. Why, when heteros can't honour their own marriages, we feel we have the right to decide whether someone else is afforded the same opportunity is beyond me.

Grow up and deal with it. Whether you like it or not, it's going to happen and if you don't learn to accept it you are going to come across just as ignorant and uneducated as KKK members with their ass backwards beliefs.
I agree with u...I know a lesbian couple and one of them is pregnant...children need love and understanding....the issue is not how society will treat them but first, how will the parents educate their child??? with gay values or unbiased and diversified?? In this case the women plan on raising their child as they were raised..to be monogamous and educate their child on being both straight and gay ..
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There should be freedom, but on the other way, those who say this way consenting adults could ask for marriages of 3 or 10 people are also right ... Marriage is between a man and a woman, there should be another word for gay/lesbian official couples ...
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Marriages is used to found a family and have kids, this is how our society works!

Fags only wanna fuck and takes drugs, Why the fuck they wanna be married??
Oooh..the Idiot King has spoken!
Obviously he knows everything there is to say on this subjec
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Here's my view on gayness:
I don't have a problem with you if you're gay, unless you try to be gay with me.
I think you have nothing to worry about there!
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WRONG without a doubt marriage is the union between a man and a woman..

Ah...that age old question has finally be answered:
WHO is God?
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I don't mind if gays want to adopt a kid, but I disagree with allowing them to adopt until society becomes more accepting of gays.

The self contained oxymoron!
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Homosexuality is a brain condition, a chemical imbalance if you will.
The experts on the subject of "homosexuality" are really all over the place today!

Is blond hair and blue eyes also a result of a chemical imbalance?
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Gay marriage is an excellent way to control the population.
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Gay or Straight, I think ALL marriages should be illegal!
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