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ThunderBalls · 12-22-2003, 02:25 AM

Reagan, Bush Sr. and Rumsfeld should all be on trial right beside Saddam.

'Publicly, the United States maintained neutrality during the eight-year Iran-Iraq war, which began in 1980.

Privately, however, the administrations of Reagan and George H.W. Bush sold military goods to Iraq, including poisonous chemicals and deadly biological agents, worked to stop the flow of weapons to Iran, and undertook discreet diplomatic initiatives, such as the two Rumsfeld trips to Baghdad, to improve relations with Hussein.'

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3754726/

sacX · 12-22-2003, 02:51 AM

the WMD pretence for going to war was always smoke and mirrors.

Gemini · 12-22-2003, 03:08 AM

There were a lot of odd things going on during their years as president. Most of the people I know roll their eyes when Rummies name is mentioned too.

ThunderBalls · 12-22-2003, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by Gemini
There were a lot of odd things going on during their years as president. Most of the people I know roll their eyes when Rummies name is mentioned too.

Yep, Iran-Contra; Neil Bush and the S & L bailout; funding Osama. Could you imagine if Clinton done all this shit?

theking · 12-22-2003, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by ThunderBalls
Reagan, Bush Sr. and Rumsfeld should all be on trial right beside Saddam.

'Publicly, the United States maintained neutrality during the eight-year Iran-Iraq war, which began in 1980.

Privately, however, the administrations of Reagan and George H.W. Bush sold military goods to Iraq, including poisonous chemicals and deadly biological agents, worked to stop the flow of weapons to Iran, and undertook discreet diplomatic initiatives, such as the two Rumsfeld trips to Baghdad, to improve relations with Hussein.'

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3754726/

As stated by Dana Priest...

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Privately, however, the administrations of Reagan and George H.W. Bush sold military goods to Iraq, including poisonous chemicals and deadly biological agents, worked to stop the flow of weapons to Iran, and undertook discreet diplomatic initiatives, such as the two Rumsfeld trips to Baghdad, to improve relations with Hussein.'

and is misleading...and misinformative...but does fit nicely into an agenda.

Hawkeye · 12-22-2003, 11:26 AM

Reagan is one of the top 3 worst Presidents of the 20th century.

That dumb motherfucker armed all kinds of dictators and terrorists in order to accomplish short term goals and enrich the Republican party's corporate buddies.

We're still dealing with Reagan's fuckups 15 years later. Most notably, Saddam and Osama.

Mike AI · 12-22-2003, 11:34 AM

Countries have no permant allies or friends, only interests.

Foreign relations is a very complex game. At the time of the Iraq/Iran war, Iran was a much larger threat then Saddam. It was also during the cold war, so the US would help out anyone ( including any dictator) who was "anti-communist"

Times change, sometimes people/countries don't keep up. With the end of the cold war, a bi-polar system had evovled into a multi-polar system, focused on stopping WMDs and terrorism.

Saddam did not keep up.....

Meta Ridley · 12-22-2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Mike AI
......... focused on stopping WMDs and terrorism.

Saddam did not keep up.....

What does terrorism and WMD's have to do with Saddam?

theking · 12-22-2003, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Meta Ridley

What does terrorism and WMD's have to do with Saddam?

FYI...Saddam openly supported several terrorist orgs. FYI Saddam had tons of WMD's...and used them against Iran and against his own people. Between 1991 and 1998 the UN inspectors oversaw the destruction of what they estimated to be 95% of the WMD's and WMD materials.

directfiesta · 12-22-2003, 04:43 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI
Countries have no permant allies or friends, only interests.

Foreign relations is a very complex game. At the time of the Iraq/Iran war, Iran was a much larger threat then Saddam. It was also during the cold war, so the US would help out anyone ( including any dictator) who was "anti-communist"

Times change, sometimes people/countries don't keep up. With the end of the cold war, a bi-polar system had evovled into a multi-polar system, focused on stopping WMDs and terrorism.

Saddam did not keep up.....

Aside from the last sentence, I basically agree with this statement. The new friend of today ( Lybia ??/ ) was the worst ennemy of yesterday.... And the new ennemy of today ( Saddam) was yesterday's best friend ... So heads of states should beware of the US power, including Israel...

12-22-2003, 02:25 AM	#1
ThunderBalls So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mesosphere Posts: 2,926	Documents detail Rumsfeld's Iraq visit in 1984 Reagan, Bush Sr. and Rumsfeld should all be on trial right beside Saddam. 'Publicly, the United States maintained neutrality during the eight-year Iran-Iraq war, which began in 1980. Privately, however, the administrations of Reagan and George H.W. Bush sold military goods to Iraq, including poisonous chemicals and deadly biological agents, worked to stop the flow of weapons to Iran, and undertook discreet diplomatic initiatives, such as the two Rumsfeld trips to Baghdad, to improve relations with Hussein.' http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3754726/

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Hawkeye Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,291	Reagan is one of the top 3 worst Presidents of the 20th century. That dumb motherfucker armed all kinds of dictators and terrorists in order to accomplish short term goals and enrich the Republican party's corporate buddies. We're still dealing with Reagan's fuckups 15 years later. Most notably, Saddam and Osama.