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MuleScrote 11-21-2003 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88


Like I explained to Mule, the current list is just a start up list I pulled (alot - not entirly) from a hun thread. I helped show Mule were I got his domain from, and I than talked to him and pulled it from the list.

In future though the system will be much more accurate as it is updated daily, and if you EVER believe your domain is wrongly on there you can contact me on ICQ anytime.


Thanks for helping me to get that straightened out. I searched gfy for any mention of my domain and only found it the big list of tgp's to submit to posted by Amp and a couple other. Haven't found it on any of the huns lists either.

But this domain is also listed at porncheaters, cmwkings claims to have the ban reason for most of the domains he didn't pull from the hun list. I would be curious to find out what he had on me.

I've never redirected or had a pop-up or scripted shit on any website i've ever put up.

Jon 11-21-2003 10:49 PM

Just made it's debut and already has problems. Typical Nazis..

Odin88 11-21-2003 10:58 PM

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Just made it's debut and already has problems.
Believe me, we appreciate the feedback from legitimate people, and many suggestions have been thrown our way and we are working on improving the site. This launch was not meant to be a be all and end all, just to let webmasters have a look at the site, review the concept and tell us what we need to change and improve.

We do not want to dictate to anyone here, if you have ideas throw them at us (AWI has given us a number of them) and if they are good, and appear to be widely wanted, they will be implemented.Oh and your attempts to discredit me are very lame. Find yourself something more productive to do.

steffie 11-21-2003 11:00 PM

Its awesome I love it

:thumbsup

MuleScrote 11-21-2003 11:00 PM

No hard feelings here...I know you meant well by trying to save everyone some time.


But as was said earlier, if you don't know why a domain is on the list...maybe it shouldn't be offered in a list as part of a service. The effects could cripple somebody.

Jon 11-21-2003 11:04 PM

Vote No! for Nazi!

Odin88 11-21-2003 11:06 PM

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Its awesome I love it
Thanks! A lot more work is needed, but we believe that with time it will become a useful webmaster tool.

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No hard feelings here...I know you meant well by trying to save everyone some time.

But as was said earlier, if you don't know why a domain is on the list...maybe it shouldn't be offered in a list as part of a service. The effects could cripple somebody.
Don't worry, after some suggestions on AWI we are already working on a better way to do this. We are currently working towards it showing a 'date added', 'added by' and 'reason for adding' option.

The reason for adding option will be harder to master accurately, but we will naturally do our very best to make it work. And no hard feelings from this side, I appreciate comments from those of you who constructively pick faults in the program.

MuleScrote 11-21-2003 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88


Don't worry, after some suggestions on AWI we are already working on a better way to do this. We are currently working towards it showing a 'date added', 'added by' and 'reason for adding' option.

The reason for adding option will be harder to master accurately, but we will naturally do our very best to make it work. And no hard feelings from this side, I appreciate comments from those of you who constructively pick faults in the program.

:thumbsup

You're headed in the right direction.

Splash 11-21-2003 11:17 PM

Do you have any interest from the *legitimate* TGP's to join in or is this still a concept? Getting a concensous as to banning sites/webmasters seems hard to do with all the different rules.

Odin88 11-21-2003 11:20 PM

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You're headed in the right direction.
Thanks. Hopefully with enough webmaster support when can get there.

:)

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Do you have any interest from the *legitimate* TGP's to join in or is this still a concept? Getting a concensous as to banning sites/webmasters seems hard to do with all the different rules.
If you are interested hit me up and ICQ and we will talk (344709237).

woj 11-21-2003 11:20 PM

50 cheaters

quantum-x 11-21-2003 11:28 PM

I hate ideas likethis.
Sure it's a nice idea, but for the amount of honest people you fuck over it aint worth it imho.

I've only ever made clean galleries, and have partner acccoutns with every major tgp. That is, until my ISP put in a bad 'transparent' proxy, so all people on my ISP who submitted appeared to have one IP addy.

long and the stort of it, i got all / msot of my domains banned because of other fuckers.

then, if that gets spread aroundto every other tgp, what hope do i have of explaininng myself?

Odin88 11-21-2003 11:30 PM

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then, if that gets spread aroundto every other tgp, what hope do i have of explaininng myself?
We understand peoples worries obviously. And we will be working 1000% towards solving the problems behind them. Believe me (without saying too much what we have planned in the future) if we can build a solid system, if anyone gets fucked over it would be for no longer than 24 hours.

In effect this system we actually be better for the honest guy who gets fucked over. As in the end (when we are able to reach the goal we aim to reach) they will have a chance to get off many tgp's cheat listsvery quickly if they are innocent.

sincityvixen 11-22-2003 11:52 AM

actually there is another tgp cheaters DB here TGPCheaters.com :thumbsup I've been using it for a while!

Jon 11-22-2003 11:55 AM

These Nazis are still at it?

sincityvixen 11-22-2003 11:59 AM

I think you should also list the reason why the person is on the list! Like if the chenged their gallery, pop-ups, ect. So we can decide for ourselves whether or not to ban them based on that information! :2 cents:

Matt 26z 11-22-2003 12:09 PM

This has been thought up a million times, and it would never work. You'd get the TGP kiddies with an ego banning people for breaking an obscure rule, and now they are banned everywhere.

You'd also have TGPers entering the domains of those they don't care for just out of spite.

ZakAttack 11-22-2003 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by sincityvixen
actually there is another tgp cheaters DB here TGPCheaters.com :thumbsup I've been using it for a while!

That one is a pain in the ass to cut and paste all those in there and take out the reasons.

As far as reasons go, most tgps that cheat do the usual pop-up/redirect to offshoreclicks dialer, etc... the same ass story told different ways. We'll make it so that galleries that don't do this aren't put up on the board, eg. the people who submit people to the list only put down the redirectors.

RaGe 11-22-2003 02:26 PM

Great idea, I'll submit my blacklist to you guys. I have about 320 of them that I've personally caught redirecting on my sites.

Smokey The Bear 11-22-2003 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by sincityvixen
I think you should also list the reason why the person is on the list! Like if the chenged their gallery, pop-ups, ect. So we can decide for ourselves whether or not to ban them based on that information! :2 cents:
:thumbsup This seems like a better idea. Or just use whois banning and you wont have to worry about it nearly as often.

evildick 11-22-2003 02:36 PM

Shit, anybody know what this guy did to get on the list?

http://bigboobs4all.com/

I've been listing a shitload of his free site submissions on a link list. Guess I better start checking some links.

:mad:

Reak 11-22-2003 02:38 PM

Nice site Odin88, you have always from these special project. I like that :)

Keep up the good work :thumbsup

JamesK 11-22-2003 02:40 PM

40% of that list is bs

goBigtime 11-22-2003 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88


Thats why we are looking for serious TGP webmasters only. Not to be harsh, but we won't be giving anyone who is not well known/trusted a pass to submit urls.

:)


People who are well known/trusted occassionally abuse their power to ban/blacklist people as well. They can't help it.

It's been tried time and time again.

Something happens, it always gets personal & there goes the credibility of your entire blacklist.

I already see people on that list who's only reason they are there is because they have sites that sound like other peoples or have similar layouts of other people who are big big in the industry.


Here's a suggestion though -- on your end, make sure you tag EVERY SUBMISSION with the person who submitted it, so when that persons credibility comes under question, you can (and should) wipe out every one of his submitted IP's/Domains.

goBigtime 11-22-2003 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Wildcard
40% of that list is bs
Exactly.

It'll never fly.

People abuse their power too much and start trying to bend what comes under the header of "cheater".


"He went to GFY and said my sites suck and convert at 1:2000.... blacklisted."



This concept presented in this thread is starting to remind me of the patriot act. :1orglaugh

gin 11-22-2003 03:09 PM

that is a real good idea.. and if for some reason some one is listed and they shouldn't be.. just have them call up and make sure its not from a payphone or anything.. write down their phone number.. to make sure the same person isn't calling for 50+ domains.. and then unlist them.. then anyone using the list should see it's gone the next day and start listing the domain again..

gin 11-22-2003 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by evildick
Shit, anybody know what this guy did to get on the list?

http://bigboobs4all.com/

I've been listing a shitload of his free site submissions on a link list. Guess I better start checking some links.

:mad:

his images are all 404's? that's probably why..

jimmyf 11-22-2003 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by goBigtime


Exactly.

It'll never fly.

People abuse their power too much and start trying to bend what comes under the header of "cheater".


"He went to GFY and said my sites suck and convert at 1:2000.... blacklisted."



This concept presented in this thread is starting to remind me of the patriot act. :1orglaugh

yep :thumbsup they just can't help doing it. Most are a bunch of KIDS. Instead of not listing a gallery for breaking rules (like not enough pics) black list it. That fucker has submitted 5 galleries and not enough pics.

Most TGP owner's are asswipes and don't even know it.
Main reason I quit submitting years ago

the Shemp 11-22-2003 05:01 PM

i wouldnt share my banned list with another site/s.

Odin88 11-22-2003 05:32 PM

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Exactly.

It'll never fly.

People abuse their power too much and start trying to bend what comes under the header of "cheater".


"He went to GFY and said my sites suck and convert at 1:2000.... blacklisted."


This concept presented in this thread is starting to remind me of the patriot act.
Regulation of submitters is a must, obviously. If we start getting too many complaints about domains put on our list by a submitter he will obviously cease to be a submitter.

I know the site does not look much now, but we floated it early to get your feedback on what to add. From the next update (sometime in the nect week or so) many things will be added to maintain the integrity of our list.

Also, ANYONE who believes they are on there for the wrong reason can contact me on ICQ 344709237.

Adultnet 11-22-2003 07:32 PM

very original :thumbsup

SomeCreep 11-22-2003 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by the Shemp
i wouldnt share my banned list with another site/s.
Really Shemp, whys that? If you did share your banned list, then cheaters would be scared to cheat your TGP for fear of being banned with all the other big TGPs.

the Shemp 11-22-2003 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep


Really Shemp, whys that? If you did share your banned list, then cheaters would be scared to cheat your TGP for fear of being banned with all the other big TGPs.

You make a good point, but we have one of the best scripts going for finding cheaters, plus i have a database going back almost 6 years. Why should we share the results with other sites. Its not to my advantage to share ;)

evildick 11-22-2003 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by gin
his images are all 404's? that's probably why..
That's just the index page. All his submitted galleries and sites appear to work fine.

SomeCreep 11-22-2003 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by the Shemp


You make a good point, but we have one of the best scripts going for finding cheaters, plus i have a database going back almost 6 years. Why should we share the results with other sites. Its not to my advantage to share ;)

Basically, competing TGPs gets a free ride for what you had to learn the hard way with. You're right, I can see how it would not be to the advantage of some TGPs to share their lists.

Odin88 11-22-2003 10:32 PM

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Basically, competing TGPs gets a free ride for what you had to learn the hard way with. You're right, I can see how it would not be to the advantage of some TGPs to share their lists.
I can understand this sentiment, but also agree that it can also be positive for big TGP's to share. You will remember when the hun posted a thread here sharing a cheaters list, he had this to say:

"I figure by unveiling as many of their domains as possible in the end it will be worth their while not to submit to me anymore. So I invite all TGP-owners to add these to your blacklists... Only by making their domains worthless these people might try to make an honest living for a change... after all, every blacklisted domain is 15 bucks down the drain... There 366 domains in this first report... you do the math ;-)"

I understand why you would not be too keen to jump on these idea straight away, but hopefully if we can build a solid enough system you can atleast see the worth in it.

:)

darksoft 11-22-2003 10:39 PM

And why the fuck is myhottiez.com on there? You better have a good fucking reason.

Odin88 11-22-2003 10:43 PM

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And why the fuck is myhottiez.com on there? You better have a good fucking reason.
Going to put my ICQ up on the main page in a sec. Everyone, feel free to contact me on it if you have a problem (344709237).

darksoft 11-22-2003 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by MuleScrote



Thanks for helping me to get that straightened out. I searched gfy for any mention of my domain and only found it the big list of tgp's to submit to posted by Amp and a couple other. Haven't found it on any of the huns lists either.

But this domain is also listed at porncheaters, cmwkings claims to have the ban reason for most of the domains he didn't pull from the hun list. I would be curious to find out what he had on me.

I've never redirected or had a pop-up or scripted shit on any website i've ever put up.

Same here. Another fucking newbie prima donna who doesn't know his dick-hole from a fucking straw.

darksoft 11-22-2003 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by Odin88


Going to put my ICQ up on the main page in a sec. Everyone, feel free to contact me on it if you have a problem (344709237).

I don't do ICQ. If you do Yahoo or EMAIL, let me know. Click my sig for email info.


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