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Old 11-22-2003, 08:51 AM   #101
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Old 11-22-2003, 09:16 AM   #102
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when did this come out
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Old 11-22-2003, 01:10 PM   #103
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There will never be a large war between China and USA. That's true. The rest of your post is propaganda driven tho.

The US does not know, to any accurate degree, the technology behind Chinas military. Simplistically put, remember these are the same guys telling you what China has as told you that Iraq had WMD's. They basically know jackshit. They know what China tells the world, no more, no less.
Not propaganda driven in the least. The US does not need to know...with any great degree of accuaracy...the technology behind China's military. They worse case it...just as we now know they did with the Soviet Union...and as they apparently did with Iraq.


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Secondly, the US does have a larger capacity to invade China than China has to invade the US. Sure that's true. However, I'm pretty sure that the eventual result of any large conflict would be both countries black and scarred and basically dead. Those of you that think the US's anti-missile defense is good enough to stop a rain of Chinese nukes are living in cuckoo land. I mean, like how many rains of nukes from China has your missile defense actually stopped. So you know it works like ? A big fat zero. That goes for both sides.
The US has the capacity to invade China (I can only visualize this happening under certain circumstances, as the land mass and population is to large) and China simply put cannot reciprocate. We can project our military power (land,sea, and air) into their theater and simply put China cannot project its military power into our theater...other than via ICBM's...and the last count I recall is that they have something under 30 ICBM's. That does not exactly constitute a rain of missile's.

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Any conventional aircraft led pacification would fail. The country is just to large. Any infantry led invasion would fail, they simply have to many bodies. You guys can't even subdue a technology deficient Iraq. Your chances of subdueing China are Nil. Period.
China is...for all practical purposes...currently pacified...as they cannot project military power globally...only within their AO...which is limited. We would never engage in a land war within China...unless internal rest within China presented the opportunity. All that has to be accomplished is to limit their ability to project military power.


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No, there will never be a direct war between the US and China. Neither side would survive. Even Bush, who I consider to be a very dangerous, borderline evil man, is not that stupid. He may not mind murdering tens of thousands of innocent people, but he would be too chickenshit if there was the slightest chance he might lose his ranch.

At least Bush is clever enough to pick his fights.

Not gonna happen.
Both sides would "survive".
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Old 11-22-2003, 04:29 PM   #104
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I question the stats...but none the less there is an easy solution...do not fuck with the USA.
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Old 11-22-2003, 06:35 PM   #105
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All the USA vs China talk is rather pointless since there are no major conflicts now, and I can't see any in the near future that would bring the two countries to war with eachother.

The US might not like China to make a move on Taiwan, but the US is unlikely to take any military action against China because China is a significant military power itself and the issue of Taiwan independence isn't worth the huge cost of American lives and dollars that it would require to be at war with China.

Every day, China is more and more a friend of America than an enemy. Iran, Syria, and N.Korea are much more realistic targets for war with America in the near future.
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