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ThunderBalls · 11-19-2003, 08:14 PM

Its always irritated me how Ibill freely refunded peoples money without question. Seems their being a little more proactive with these assclowns. Here's an email I just received from Ibill:

Dear Webmaster;

I received a call from a representative of Wells Fargo credit card services
because one of your subscribers is claiming fraud. The customer is stating
they never joined your site in May of 2002 through current, although their
name, street address, email address, and their IP address traces back to
the ISP they used at the time of sign-up. All appearances are that the
cardholder and your subscriber are one-in-the-same.

What I need from you is the username and password information to access the account with your site. That, along with any other information could prove instrumental in defeating the fraud claim.

The subscriber information is as follows:

Subscription: ********
Email: ********
PIN: ********
Signup Date: 5/19/2002

Please let me know if you can assist with preventing the loss of your
revenues. Certainly let me know what else I can do to assist you in this
endeavor.

tony286 · 11-19-2003, 08:38 PM

Cool shit way to go ibill

tootie · 11-19-2003, 08:44 PM

Wow, iBill does something productive for once? Cool

Cindyff · 11-19-2003, 08:46 PM

About fucking time to!!!

Brad-Wishing · 11-19-2003, 08:46 PM

Good to see. The industry is plagued with freely giving in to "fraud".

Good work!

seven · 11-19-2003, 09:08 PM

Ludedude · 11-19-2003, 09:12 PM

No shit. Credit where credit is due...nice job iBill.

axelcat · 11-19-2003, 09:12 PM

This is the 1st good thing ive heard about ibill

DerekT · 11-19-2003, 09:14 PM

I wish other processors would follow their lead.

prostock · 11-19-2003, 09:15 PM

just copy all his log in times and all that , then send hiim a ass hole letter back that you will make this go legal for tring to froud you . And ask what did his wife finly find out , and now you want to get out ,. Fuck these kind of people !

OzMan84 · 11-19-2003, 09:20 PM

Ibill pulled through once again

BRISK · 11-19-2003, 09:33 PM

cold_ice · 11-19-2003, 09:38 PM

Is there a list of every one that charges back that can be accessed by pay site owners. That way they can stop it before it starts.

theking · 11-19-2003, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ThunderBalls
Its always irritated me how Ibill freely refunded peoples money without question. Seems their being a little more proactive with these assclowns. Here's an email I just received from Ibill:

Dear Webmaster;

I received a call from a representative of Wells Fargo credit card services
because one of your subscribers is claiming fraud. The customer is stating
they never joined your site in May of 2002 through current, although their
name, street address, email address, and their IP address traces back to
the ISP they used at the time of sign-up. All appearances are that the
cardholder and your subscriber are one-in-the-same.

What I need from you is the username and password information to access the account with your site. That, along with any other information could prove instrumental in defeating the fraud claim.

The subscriber information is as follows:

Subscription: ********
Email: ********
PIN: ********
Signup Date: 5/19/2002

Please let me know if you can assist with preventing the loss of your
revenues. Certainly let me know what else I can do to assist you in this
endeavor.

How certain are you that the Email is from Ibill?

EZRhino · 11-19-2003, 09:42 PM

IBill has always been good to me.

Shoplifter · 11-19-2003, 10:53 PM

I've used Ibill for 5 years and tens of thousands of transactions and I have never seen anything like this. The guy must really be raising hell to get this sort of response out of them.

twistyneck · 11-19-2003, 10:56 PM

He's asking for 18 months worth of refunds? I would sure hope that would set off some flags somewhere. Sounds like the fucker needs Christmas money.

Volantt · 11-19-2003, 11:09 PM

Wow, sounds fishy to me, call Ibill and verify the e-mail they sent jsut to be sure. Never heard of a processor doing that before... But then again 18 months of refunds is a little fishy.

V

sinmaster · 11-19-2003, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ThunderBalls

What I need from you is the username and password information to access the account with your site. That, along with any other information could prove instrumental in defeating the fraud claim.

Sounds like someone trying to scam you out of a pass for the site to me.

11-19-2003, 11:19 PM

wow thats fantastic response!

Volantt · 11-19-2003, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sinmaster

Sounds like someone trying to scam you out of a pass for the site to me.

Aye, that is what I thought after reading the email also.

V

Sosa · 11-19-2003, 11:39 PM

good deal

Zer0 · 11-19-2003, 11:39 PM

Yeah I don't think that your rep, or even the fraud dept would refer to you as "Webmaster" unless that's your name :P, most of the emails I've had from them, they have always been personalised.

Though, if this is the way that iBill is now doing things, it's good that they are actually doing something good for us.

Centurion · 11-19-2003, 11:52 PM

Ibill's still around?

Volantt · 11-20-2003, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion
Ibill's still around?

11-20-2003, 04:52 AM

johnbosh · 11-20-2003, 05:02 AM

thats nice :d

Theo · 11-20-2003, 06:08 AM

Check if the email comes from the ibill server.

Did you have such subscriber?

Theo · 11-20-2003, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shoplifter
I've used Ibill for 5 years and tens of thousands of transactions and I have never seen anything like this. The guy must really be raising hell to get this sort of response out of them.

if it's a valid email hell yes. He must be something like Bin Laden of chargebacks.

Adultnet · 11-20-2003, 06:19 AM

nice ibill started to provide service good service

tranza · 11-20-2003, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking

How certain are you that the Email is from Ibill?

That's what I was thinking.....

doober · 11-20-2003, 09:38 AM

if this is really Ibill emailing you, then my hats off to them...
about time they do something right

oldnewbie · 11-20-2003, 10:55 AM

If this really did come from Ibill, then

ThunderBalls · 11-20-2003, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Check if the email comes from the ibill server.

Did you have such subscriber?

Yes it was definitely from Ibill and yes I did have the subscriber in question.

Received: from iblmx01.IBILL.COM (external.ibill.com [208.62.228.15])
by ********* (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAJMbpd8017085; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:37:52 -0700
Received: from MAIL03.ibill.com by iblmx01.IBILL.COM
(Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.6) with ESMTP id
<[email protected]> for <[email protected]>;
Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:24:51 -0500
Received: from mail01.ibill.com ([10.148.100.40]) by MAIL03.ibill.com with
SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id
XHGDV8SK; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:24:24 -0500
Received: by mail01.ibill.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id
<XHANSSNF>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:24:46 -0500
Message-ID: <[email protected] bill.com>
From: [email protected]
To: ********
Subject: Access
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:24:46 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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11-19-2003, 08:14 PM	#1
ThunderBalls So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Mesosphere Posts: 2,926	Good job Ibill Its always irritated me how Ibill freely refunded peoples money without question. Seems their being a little more proactive with these assclowns. Here's an email I just received from Ibill: Dear Webmaster; I received a call from a representative of Wells Fargo credit card services because one of your subscribers is claiming fraud. The customer is stating they never joined your site in May of 2002 through current, although their name, street address, email address, and their IP address traces back to the ISP they used at the time of sign-up. All appearances are that the cardholder and your subscriber are one-in-the-same. What I need from you is the username and password information to access the account with your site. That, along with any other information could prove instrumental in defeating the fraud claim. The subscriber information is as follows: Subscription: ****** Email: **** PIN: ****** Signup Date: 5/19/2002 Please let me know if you can assist with preventing the loss of your revenues. Certainly let me know what else I can do to assist you in this endeavor.

11-19-2003, 08:44 PM	#3
tootie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Planet Earp Posts: 6,041	Wow, iBill does something productive for once? Cool __________________

11-19-2003, 08:46 PM	#5
Brad-Wishing Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,415	Good to see. The industry is plagued with freely giving in to "fraud". Good work! __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

11-19-2003, 09:08 PM	#6
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11-19-2003, 09:12 PM	#7
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	No shit. Credit where credit is due...nice job iBill. __________________

11-19-2003, 08:38 PM	#2
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Cool shit way to go ibill

11-19-2003, 08:46 PM	#4
Cindyff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,187	About fucking time to!!!

11-19-2003, 09:12 PM	#8
axelcat Adult Locals Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Posts: 25,450	This is the 1st good thing ive heard about ibill

11-19-2003, 09:14 PM	#9
DerekT Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 112	I wish other processors would follow their lead.

11-19-2003, 09:15 PM	#10
prostock On probation Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: not telling you , the exwife might find me Posts: 4,160	just copy all his log in times and all that , then send hiim a ass hole letter back that you will make this go legal for tring to froud you . And ask what did his wife finly find out , and now you want to get out ,. Fuck these kind of people ! __________________ ICQ # :158519717

11-19-2003, 09:20 PM	#11
OzMan84 Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 4,740	Ibill pulled through once again __________________ XferClick - 300,000 UV daily and growing quickly. Majority US, EU, CA and AU traffic. Contact me for more information ICQ: 304568058

11-19-2003, 09:33 PM	#12
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	__________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

11-19-2003, 09:38 PM	#13
cold_ice Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cali Posts: 3,027	Is there a list of every one that charges back that can be accessed by pay site owners. That way they can stop it before it starts.

11-19-2003, 09:42 PM	#15
EZRhino Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: couch Posts: 6,258	IBill has always been good to me.

11-19-2003, 10:53 PM	#16
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,824	I've used Ibill for 5 years and tens of thousands of transactions and I have never seen anything like this. The guy must really be raising hell to get this sort of response out of them.

11-19-2003, 10:56 PM	#17
twistyneck So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hanging by the neck until dead. Posts: 4,660	He's asking for 18 months worth of refunds? I would sure hope that would set off some flags somewhere. Sounds like the fucker needs Christmas money.

11-19-2003, 11:09 PM	#18
Volantt Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Penguin vs Devil Posts: 745	Wow, sounds fishy to me, call Ibill and verify the e-mail they sent jsut to be sure. Never heard of a processor doing that before... But then again 18 months of refunds is a little fishy. V __________________ "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato "In the abscence of orders, go find something and kill it." - Erwin Rommel "A man's worth is no greater then the worth of his ambitions." - Marcus Aurelius

11-19-2003, 11:19 PM	#20
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	wow thats fantastic response!

11-19-2003, 11:39 PM	#22
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	good deal

11-19-2003, 11:39 PM	#23
Zer0 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 16	Yeah I don't think that your rep, or even the fraud dept would refer to you as "Webmaster" unless that's your name :P, most of the emails I've had from them, they have always been personalised. Though, if this is the way that iBill is now doing things, it's good that they are actually doing something good for us.

11-19-2003, 11:52 PM	#24
Centurion Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SeATtle Posts: 6,033	Ibill's still around?

11-20-2003, 05:02 AM	#27
johnbosh Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Netherlands, Rotterdam Posts: 8,965	thats nice :d

11-20-2003, 06:08 AM	#28
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Check if the email comes from the ibill server. Did you have such subscriber?

11-20-2003, 06:19 AM	#30
Adultnet Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 8,713	nice ibill started to provide service good service __________________ TrafficCashGold Paying Webmasters Since 1996! Awesome Conversions! Fast Weekly Payments! Over 125 Tours!

11-20-2003, 09:38 AM	#32
doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	if this is really Ibill emailing you, then my hats off to them... about time they do something right

11-20-2003, 10:55 AM	#33
oldnewbie Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The End Times Posts: 394	If this really did come from Ibill, then