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Ic3m4nZ · 11-19-2003, 04:34 PM

50 copies.

localG · 11-20-2003, 09:45 AM

Tipsy can you contact me on icq on by phone 610 558 1195
icq 133566063

notjoe · 11-20-2003, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by garry

I HAVE to correct this one here. The price is $2500 for the license AND the setup. So you are not paying $2500 for the setup, you also pay for the license to start using the program!
And again, this include that we take care of the extra Visa fees for you !

And do the math. If you are using only one processor today, and you process for something like $10 000/monthly. With the mpa2 program installed you will make at least 20% more a month, that will be $2000 extra in your pocket every month.

Now if you also calculate all the extra features you can offer your webmasters as well. That will make it easier for your webmasters to promote your sites, and therefore make them more money as well, then you should be able to make the cost of getting the mpa2 program back in the first month.

If i dont make atleast 20% more/month is there some sort of discount rate?

jamesgnome · 11-23-2003, 11:29 PM

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I HAVE to correct this one here. The price is $2500 for the license AND the setup. So you are not paying $2500 for the setup, you also pay for the license to start using the program!

The front page of MPA says "Rent the full program & get it installed on your own server for $300.00 per month." So exactly what are people bidding on? $2500.00 license fee? Sounds like a load of shit. So do you get the source for the license fee atleast? I doubt it. Why would you have to pay a license fee for something your renting anyways, your don't OWN IT. Hope it includes the source.

mryellow · 11-23-2003, 11:59 PM

You guys need to pick up some more billers.

We have an account with CCBill EU.

PSW doesn't respond to my emails anymore.

Jettis dragged their feet on me for a couple of months.

Goodthinxx has errors on their admin that won't let me create an account.

The others don't allow non-US webmasters.

Which leaves me with a $300/mo bill and 1 processor loaded into a cascading system which has nowhere to cascade too.

-Ben

brocklander · 11-24-2003, 12:15 AM

I got a question...

Sure you may get a 20% increase in signups (best case scenario). But does that outweigh the increase in chargebacks you're going to get?

If the surfer is getting declined for a $2.95 trial with one processor, why would I want it processed with another? That person got declined initially for a reason, either because of an overlimit or because of fraud. If you can adjust the scrub with your primary processor, there is absolutely no reason to cascade it.

I'm not baggin' on MPA2, because I think you get a lot of great extra features (aside from it being too expensive). And when one of your processors go down, it's nice to have a backup. But...this whole cascading thing doesn't make sense. Can someone explain....

brocklander · 11-24-2003, 12:17 AM

oh, and what's with this $1000 off Webmaster design.

Nima · 11-24-2003, 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by Oystein

And a quick note to another post here, the monthly rent is calculated according to the amount of new signups that you send through the program.

does this mean the more signups you get the more you have to pay per month ? !?

init · 11-24-2003, 01:29 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=324962076 3 why'd you sell those pimp bull plates!!

Matt_WildCash · 11-24-2003, 07:31 AM

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Originally posted by brocklander
I got a question...

Sure you may get a 20% increase in signups (best case scenario). But does that outweigh the increase in chargebacks you're going to get?

If the surfer is getting declined for a $2.95 trial with one processor, why would I want it processed with another? That person got declined initially for a reason, either because of an overlimit or because of fraud. If you can adjust the scrub with your primary processor, there is absolutely no reason to cascade it.

I'm not baggin' on MPA2, because I think you get a lot of great extra features (aside from it being too expensive). And when one of your processors go down, it's nice to have a backup. But...this whole cascading thing doesn't make sense. Can someone explain....

We have used MPA2 on www.wildcash.com selling Fuckherthroat.com for the last 4-5 months and we have had 20% of sales go through PSWbilling our 2nd processor at the time. (bummer they just stop all payments and stole our money). But Checking was a decent amount too.

As far as chargebacks we were around 0.8 % for chargebacks on the PSW account. 0.12% currently on the main epoch account. Yes it had slightly higher rates but switch your processors around a bit to level it off and your make 20% extra sales for nothing. Better to not have everything in 1 basket too, glad we didn't use pswbilling as our major processor we'd be screwed.

Matt_WildCash · 11-24-2003, 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by Nezster

does this mean the more signups you get the more you have to pay per month ? !?

It goes up according to how many sales you make, but the levels we found were reasonable. These guys are giving you a kickass affilate program with awesome features to help you start up with little to no cost, $2500 setup is paid to Mansionproductions who then pay, Epoch, Jettis & CCbill directly and setup you up with a fully cascading program using 3 processors and then charge $300 rent a month. Its either that or $7000 for Reboom + $2500 for visa upfront. If you can afford that maybe its worth it but we are more than happy with Mpa2.

We built our business on Mpa2 and it really helped that they offered the cheap rental option. I think its a kickass idea and a great way of helping any webmaster startup an affilate program. If you succeed and grow they profit a little extra for there troubles, when your doing 1500 sales a month is $600 a month really that big a deal?

PhillipB · 11-24-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by Driven

We have used MPA2 on www.wildcash.com selling Fuckherthroat.com for the last 4-5 months and we have had 20% of sales go through PSWbilling our 2nd processor at the time. (bummer they just stop all payments and stole our money). But Checking was a decent amount too.

As far as chargebacks we were around 0.8 % for chargebacks on the PSW account. 0.12% currently on the main epoch account. Yes it had slightly higher rates but switch your processors around a bit to level it off and your make 20% extra sales for nothing. Better to not have everything in 1 basket too, glad we didn't use pswbilling as our major processor we'd be screwed.

I Agree

HarlotCash Dyker · 11-24-2003, 11:26 AM

Great programme - Unfortunately no good for non usa webmasters.

Nima · 11-24-2003, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Driven

It goes up according to how many sales you make, but the levels we found were reasonable. These guys are giving you a kickass affilate program with awesome features to help you start up with little to no cost, $2500 setup is paid to Mansionproductions who then pay, Epoch, Jettis & CCbill directly and setup you up with a fully cascading program using 3 processors and then charge $300 rent a month. Its either that or $7000 for Reboom + $2500 for visa upfront. If you can afford that maybe its worth it but we are more than happy with Mpa2.

We built our business on Mpa2 and it really helped that they offered the cheap rental option. I think its a kickass idea and a great way of helping any webmaster startup an affilate program. If you succeed and grow they profit a little extra for there troubles, when your doing 1500 sales a month is $600 a month really that big a deal?

Well I just wanted to know about how much it goes up so I guess after some time meaning there are maybe 5000+ sales per month it is more worth it to buy your own script.

jamesgnome · 11-25-2003, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Driven

It goes up according to how many sales you make, but the levels we found were reasonable. These guys are giving you a kickass affilate program with awesome features to help you start up with little to no cost, $2500 setup is paid to Mansionproductions who then pay, Epoch, Jettis & CCbill directly and setup you up with a fully cascading program using 3 processors and then charge $300 rent a month. Its either that or $7000 for Reboom + $2500 for visa upfront. If you can afford that maybe its worth it but we are more than happy with Mpa2.

Your comparing Reboom which atleast allows you to modify the script (as a note Reboom's price has been jacked up about 5 grand in the last 2 months and there isn't really any script changes so might want to talk to the guy). And why do they need the $2500.00? What's wrong with letting buyers pay for there own fees and picking there own processors? What if I only need 1 or 2 processors. Instead of saving the extra $700.00 - $1400.00 for now I'm putting up $2500 and another $300. This isn't a winning bid for nothing, it's a promotion to sell a script. And nobody has said they pay for the all credit card fees. People bidding on this need to remember, your not buying the script, you buying the use of it. Alot like leasing a car, make sure you don't put on to much mileage!!?? Have to wonder why using a script you rent would cost more because you make more sales, perhaps you putting wear and tear on the code.

konduct · 11-25-2003, 12:37 AM

Nima · 11-25-2003, 12:48 AM

TIPSY - hit me up on ICQ 63125103
I am interested!

kmanrox · 11-25-2003, 02:15 AM

so G, did you win it? sorry i didnt know that was you i was bidding against hehe =-/

tipsy made out tho

kmanrox · 11-25-2003, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
Great programme - Unfortunately no good for non usa webmasters.

you mean for non-us webmasters without the cranial resources to incorporate in the USA?

HarlotCash Dyker · 11-25-2003, 03:13 AM

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Originally posted by kmanrox

you mean for non-us webmasters without the cranial resources to incorporate in the USA?

Why would I want to incorporate my business in the USA?

As it is, I have found another processor which works with this programme and non usa webmasters - As I already use ccbill, this makes the programme a viable tool for me to use -

Tipsy · 11-25-2003, 03:59 AM

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Originally posted by jamesgnome

Your comparing Reboom which atleast allows you to modify the script (as a note Reboom's price has been jacked up about 5 grand in the last 2 months and there isn't really any script changes so might want to talk to the guy). And why do they need the $2500.00? What's wrong with letting buyers pay for there own fees and picking there own processors? What if I only need 1 or 2 processors. Instead of saving the extra $700.00 - $1400.00 for now I'm putting up $2500 and another $300. This isn't a winning bid for nothing, it's a promotion to sell a script. And nobody has said they pay for the all credit card fees. People bidding on this need to remember, your not buying the script, you buying the use of it. Alot like leasing a car, make sure you don't put on to much mileage!!?? Have to wonder why using a script you rent would cost more because you make more sales, perhaps you putting wear and tear on the code.

Nothing funnier than an anon fucktard coming along and flaming under a different alias because he hasn't the balls to say who he really is. It becomes even funnier when the fucking idiot then procedes to get just about all of the facts wrong. Go away sad little man. If you can't compete (and from the bullshit posts you must be a competitor) then spend the time working on coding skills rather than posting on boards. It seems you need all the help you can get.

brocklander · 11-25-2003, 02:10 PM

Gary/Oystein,

Can you answer my earlier thread?

I got a question...

Sure you may get a 20% increase in signups (best case scenario). But does that outweigh the increase in chargebacks you're going to get?

If the surfer is getting declined for a $2.95 trial with one processor, why would I want it processed with another? That person got declined initially for a reason, either because of an overlimit or because of fraud. If you can adjust the scrub with your primary processor, there is absolutely no reason to cascade it.

mryellow · 11-25-2003, 03:37 PM

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you mean for non-us webmasters without the cranial resources to incorporate in the USA?

US incorporation is an extreme last resort. No non-US webmaster with a brain will give the US gov and IRS all their details when there are other options.

-Ben

konduct · 11-25-2003, 03:37 PM

jamesgnome · 11-25-2003, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy

Nothing funnier than an anon fucktard coming along and flaming under a different alias because he hasn't the balls to say who he really is. It becomes even funnier when the fucking idiot then procedes to get just about all of the facts wrong. Go away sad little man. If you can't compete (and from the bullshit posts you must be a competitor) then spend the time working on coding skills rather than posting on boards. It seems you need all the help you can get.

Excuse you what? Your assuming I'm flaming under a different alias. Who's anon? Because I don't say much on this board, I need to have 4000+ to fucking have an opinion? So how many copies do you get? 1 copy to sell for every 4000 posts? STFU, I'll say what I like.

OY · 12-02-2003, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by brocklander
Gary/Oystein,

Can you answer my earlier thread?

I got a question...

Sure you may get a 20% increase in signups (best case scenario). But does that outweigh the increase in chargebacks you're going to get?

If the surfer is getting declined for a $2.95 trial with one processor, why would I want it processed with another? That person got declined initially for a reason, either because of an overlimit or because of fraud. If you can adjust the scrub with your primary processor, there is absolutely no reason to cascade it.

Actually we see that you get AT LEAST 20% better signup ratio. As for chargebacks, well, over the last year and a half that now around 70 programs run MPA2 we have seen no increase in CB for those program owners at all. Reason is simple - the processors each use different blacklists, different countries they block and on different days they do their scrubbing harder than others. This is a fact, and this is where MPA2s cascading solution pick up at least more than 20% more signups compared to using just one processor.

I have had credit cards that I have tried to us that were high in limit, never been used online, and never done a chargeback with that got declined with some of the more prominent processors in our industry. Not saying that that is wrong, but I strongly believe that the program owner shouldn't be the one to loose ferfectly valid transactions because of over scrubbing by the processor.

PS. Sorry about the late response. Been out of the country...

11-20-2003, 09:45 AM	#52
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11-24-2003, 12:15 AM	#56
brocklander Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 163	I got a question... Sure you may get a 20% increase in signups (best case scenario). But does that outweigh the increase in chargebacks you're going to get? If the surfer is getting declined for a $2.95 trial with one processor, why would I want it processed with another? That person got declined initially for a reason, either because of an overlimit or because of fraud. If you can adjust the scrub with your primary processor, there is absolutely no reason to cascade it. I'm not baggin' on MPA2, because I think you get a lot of great extra features (aside from it being too expensive). And when one of your processors go down, it's nice to have a backup. But...this whole cascading thing doesn't make sense. Can someone explain....

11-24-2003, 12:17 AM	#57
brocklander Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 163	oh, and what's with this $1000 off Webmaster design.

11-25-2003, 12:37 AM	#66
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11-25-2003, 12:48 AM	#67
Nima Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,192	TIPSY - hit me up on ICQ 63125103 I am interested!

11-25-2003, 02:10 PM	#72
brocklander Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 163	Gary/Oystein, Can you answer my earlier thread? I got a question... Sure you may get a 20% increase in signups (best case scenario). But does that outweigh the increase in chargebacks you're going to get? If the surfer is getting declined for a $2.95 trial with one processor, why would I want it processed with another? That person got declined initially for a reason, either because of an overlimit or because of fraud. If you can adjust the scrub with your primary processor, there is absolutely no reason to cascade it.

11-25-2003, 03:37 PM	#74
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