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Old 11-17-2003, 01:02 AM   #51
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Old 11-17-2003, 01:02 AM   #53
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He still to this minute has not asked not to receive another ICQ.
That's because I deleted and filtered your ass off my ICQ list.
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Old 11-17-2003, 01:02 AM   #54
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If he would have nicely asked that may have happened. He still to this minute has not asked not to receive another ICQ.
He don't need to ask. You know he don't want your messages.

Still, you send the message and he replied, so you should have offered Zorgman a remove and a apology from the start.

Then you feel you get a spam icq message, do you tell them nicely to stop icq you?
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Old 11-17-2003, 01:04 AM   #56
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If there's one thing i know about Zorgman, it's that he's not an idiot. He's a smart, hard working guy. When zorg usually posts on board he posts something meaningful or usefull.

Now let's look at detoxed's posts: classy one-liners such as:: go back to mcdonalds, you're an idiot, etc etc...

If i was a sponsor, he would be the last person i would consider hiring, let alone let him handle webmaster relations.
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Old 11-17-2003, 01:05 AM   #57
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If there's one thing i know about Zorgman, it's that he's not an idiot. He's a smart, hard working guy. When zorg usually posts on board he posts something meaningful or usefull.

Now let's look at detoxed's posts: classy one-liners such as:: go back to mcdonalds, you're an idiot, etc etc...

If i was a sponsor, he would be the last person i would consider hiring, let alone let him handle webmaster relations.
do u show off your roast beef asshole to zorgman?
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Now let's look at detoxed's posts: classy one-liners such as:: go back to mcdonalds, you're an idiot, etc etc...


This is GFY. I have made MANY posts giving valuable information. I also post on this board and make fun of the idiots and losers that post ridiculous things out of their personal lives. Dont say you never have.
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Old 11-17-2003, 01:08 AM   #59
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This is GFY. I have made MANY posts giving valuable information. I also post on this board and make fun of the idiots and losers that post ridiculous things out of their personal lives. Dont say you never have.
Is he an account rep for a sponsor?
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My theory is if you don't want to be contacted by your sponsor via ICQ then don't give it to them.

But maybe some of us don't understand that.
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Old 11-17-2003, 01:09 AM   #61
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after over 7 years, we've signed up for more than 50 programs and i've never received an icq update like that from a sponsor. what's more, i have signed up for programs i haven't promoted in years, and i wouldn't like to have them all icqing me.

what's more, just because someone ELSE acts unprofessional doesn't make you look more professional when you call them an idiot.

when there is a misunderstanding and someone takes the time and patience to set it right, that is what i consider professional behavior.
EX-actly. The best programs out there are those whose admins and reps maintain a level of professionalism when dealing with affiliates, at ALL times. Of course something like a death threat is different, but there again, there are ways of handling it that don't make you look like complete arrogant mental case. Be nice, be professional, and let a lawyer do your talking when things get out of hand.
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Is he an account rep for a sponsor?
So because I became an account rep AFTER I had my GFY account for personal use I am supposed to change my opinions? Right. Go vote against freedom of speech or something and quit hassling me.
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That's because I deleted and filtered your ass off my ICQ list.
you put your icq # on the affiliate form in order to be contacted for business issues having to do with that specific sponsor. What did you expect? Flirting online or cybersex? You were rude on first place and you got proved wrong.
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If you worked for me, you'd be fired and ass kicked right now.
I guess you dont like making money.
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Old 11-17-2003, 01:15 AM   #66
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My theory is if you don't want to be contacted by your sponsor via ICQ then don't give it to them.

But maybe some of us don't understand that.

You are totally right... but I think this is more about the "your an idiot" reply than the general usage of ICQ.
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I guess you dont like making money.
Why don't you admit that you made a mistake?
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Why don't you admit that you made a mistake?
I gave me opinion on his intelligence, if thats a mistake maybe its a mistake. I dont think it was one.
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I guess you dont like making money.
Yes, yes..like so many here, I have an aversion to money.
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post the icq logs so everybody can judge for themselves...saves ya a lot of time posting here ;)
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So because I became an account rep AFTER I had my GFY account for personal use I am supposed to change my opinions? Right.
No, but once you become a representative of a sponsorship, a company, one really should put aside the attitude when dealing with such things as affiliates. Talking smack on GFY on your own is one thing, but while representing the program, well, it's only my personal opinion, take it or leave it, your choice.... but I would definitely focus more on keeping some distance, focus and perspective, and staying out of pissing matches with affiliates.


I'll tell you right now, I currently deal with over 40 sponsors, and if I had the same sort of exchange with one of them as you had with zorgman I would drop them as well.
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Why don't you admit that you made a mistake?


Too funny

Why the fuck do you give a shit what he does/says?
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No, but once you become a representative of a sponsorship, a company, one really should put aside the attitude when dealing with such things as affiliates. Talking smack on GFY on your own is one thing, but while representing the program, well, it's only my personal opinion, take it or leave it, your choice.... but I would definitely focus more on keeping some distance, focus and perspective, and staying out of pissing matches with affiliates.


I'll tell you right now, I currently deal with over 40 sponsors, and if I had the same sort of exchange with one of them as you had with zorgman I would drop them as well.
I would definately imagine you wouldnt call me a "cheap ass bitch" because I ICQ'd you.
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I would definately imagine you wouldnt call me a "cheap ass bitch" because I ICQ'd you.
Correct.

However, if I had replied with something like "Thanks for the spam, but I don't make much money with them" and you retorted back with "You're an idiot" you bet someone would hear about it. If that is what happened man, you really should stop taking admin lessons from Kman and start looking to guys that handle this type of thing with finesse.
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Correct.

However, if I had replied with something like "Thanks for the spam, but I don't make much money with them" and you retorted back with "You're an idiot" you bet someone would hear about it. If that is what happened man, you really should stop taking admin lessons from Kman and start looking to guys that handle this type of thing with finesse.

No one except me and Zorgman know how the ICQ's really went. My reply was friendly and in a joking around tone. He got too serious too fast.
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Old 11-17-2003, 02:03 AM   #78
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you put your icq # on the affiliate form in order to be contacted for business issues having to do with that specific sponsor. What did you expect? Flirting online or cybersex? You were rude on first place and you got proved wrong.



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Affiliates need to check themselves before jumping the gun when talking to admins as well. I know several admins of various sponsors who tell me regularly the shit they deal with from affiliates. Everything from accusations to demands to outright stupidity. Even I am sometimes amazed that these people hold it together and keep a level air of professionalism, but most of them do.

Honestly, if I ran a program I would not want any rep of mine talking too much smack on threads involving company issues. Again, that's just me though.
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I also get messages from sponsors, but I think the difference here is that they usually start by telling me who they are and from what company they come from, try it next time it might help ...
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I had the same - deleted him from my ICQ list

Don't want to be spammed by ICQ, just email is enough
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You were called an idiot because you are an idiot. If you signup for a sponsor, and you give them your ICQ number, what exactly are you expecting them to do with it? You've obviously given it to them as a point of contact for affiliate news/relations. If you don't want to get ICQ'd by your sponsor, don't give it to them. God, what a fucktard.
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Well, I'll never promote DattingGold.com !! Thanx
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My theory is if you don't want to be contacted by your sponsor via ICQ then don't give it to them.

But maybe some of us don't understand that.
I don't think the problem is being contacted by the sponser.. hell I allways put my ICQ in my profile when signing up for something. I would rather my sponsers beable to get ahold of me when ever and as fast as they can incase there is a problem..

I think his complaint was it was spam.. I'd agree I give my number for contact reasons and not for spam.. Webmasters allready get too much dam spam as it is.. what makes you think we want more?

btw...I'm not complaining about your tatics as I didn't get your message.. just giving you an opinon as to why manny of us give our sponsers Our contact info.. I'm willing to guess that atleast 99% do it for contact reasons only and not to get promotional spam..
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I was able to get the posts of incoming and outgoing icqs from my hard drive. Here is the logs


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DatingGold raises payouts to $25 per sale


zorgman: dont make money with them.


zorgman: But thanks for the spam


detoxed: its not spam idiot


zorgman: yes, it is. I didn't want it! so it's spam.


detoxed: thats the stupidest fucking definition of spam i've ever heard


zorgman: Dont call me an idoit. I did nothing to you. Your filters.


detoxed: you dont want to hear about datinggold, you shouldnt have fucking joined it


zorgman: your the owner?


detoxed: I am the owner of DatingGold


zorgman: Then maybe you should have some respect for webmasters instead of calling them "idiots".


detoxed: Then maybe you should learnt he definition of spam and you wouldnt have to be called an idiot


zorgman: Then take me off your fucken list.
I dont need this shit for sponsors.
You can GOFUCKYOURSELF.com


detoxed: hahahaha


detoxed: I dont think anyone would agree with you


zorgman: what the fuck is your problem?
Use email to make announcement you cheap ass bitch!


detoxed: You said we spammed you when it was an affiliate announcement, you were wrong


zorgman: Yeah I got your email then I delete it.
Why fucken send me 2 announcement, are you retarted?


detoxed: you said you dont make money with DatingGold


detoxed: hahaha you need some sense knocked into you


detoxed: I am professional to people I respect, you saying we spammed you when YOU GAVE US YOUR ICQ NUMBER is ridiculous.


detoxed: You typed in your ICQ number in the ICQ number field when you joined DatingGold genius.


detoxed: Already did an email announcement you stupid ass bitch. What the fuck is your problem? You dont want to get ICQ's dont give out your god damn ICQ number.


detoxed: I'll send you 15 more if you dont quit bitching.


zorgman: you are deleted,. dont bother repling again.


detoxed: You are the #1 biggest idiot on the internet.
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I got an ICQ message today from "detoxed" I never heard of him before with a link to an announcment on GFY and some text saying "new $25 payouts".

I figure it's some bitch ass newbie spamming everyone. So I replied with "thanks for the spam, but I dont make any money with them.".

I'v never heard of any big sponsors that send out ICQs with links to a forum to make an annoucement -- and I got their email announcement anyway. So WTF is this shit!!!

I get a reply with "your an idiot".
This is from the owner of datinggold.com.
- He claimed he was the owner of datinggold, since then he says he's not but he works there. Amazing when a sponsor lies to you just so he can fill better about himself.

I promoted them (untill this afternoon when I removed all their links) on 8 different websites but because it was only $9 per signup I didn't sent too much traffic to it. Hence not making any money. Price got up to $25 now.. whopy fucken do!

So I asked why he called me a "idiot" and he said because I don't make him any money. Then he went on with abusive words and some other shit.

WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with this guy?

Any sponsors that called an affiliate a "idiot" can go fuck themselfs. One less sponsors to use. FUCK'EM!!
... just to get one thing straight, every affiliate that doesn't make me any money is a fucking idiot, including yourself !!
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detoxed: You are the #1 biggest idiot on the internet.
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First Detoxed claim it is not spam, then:
detoxed: Already did an email announcement you stupid ass bitch. What the fuck is your problem? You dont want to get ICQ's dont give out your god damn ICQ number.

If that is not spam, then what is it?
Are sponsors allowed to send 50 messages about the same thing, and it is still not spam.?

Just to make it clear. the 50 is just a no.
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HAH. You EDIT the fucking ICQ logs. Good job. You posted on Netpond that you dont have them anymore. You just fucked up.
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I really cant believe you sunk so low as to EDIT the ICQ logs after you claimed you dont have them anymore on Netpond. Anyone who has EVER spoken with me would know that I would NEVER say I was the owner of DatingGold. I dont have the real ICQ logs just like you dont because I deleted you from my list as well.

You are one class act I tell you.
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:02 AM   #93
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HAH. You EDIT the fucking ICQ logs. Good job. You posted on Netpond that you dont have them anymore. You just fucked up.
When I delete you off my icq list (and it was a pleasure to do so) your logs where deleted, however if you knew anything about ICQ you would know their is a GLOBAL log and a person log for each person on it.

Those are direct from my system, I have no reason to change them. I already know your unprofessional prick.
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:03 AM   #94
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When I delete you off my icq list (and it was a pleasure to do so) your logs where deleted, however if you knew anything about ICQ you would know their is a GLOBAL log and a person log for each person on it.

Those are direct from my system, I have no reason to change them. I already know your unprofessional prick.

Liar. You changed them.
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:06 AM   #95
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Liar. You changed them.
Why don't you post your icq log?

Then you delete a person from your icq, you can choise to delete the history allso. Zorg did't delete that history. That is the reason he could post hes logs.
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:07 AM   #96
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Why don't you post your icq log?
It is on my work computer at the office. Tell me where to find global ICQ logs and I'll check on them in the morning.
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:07 AM   #97
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OWNED!
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:09 AM   #98
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It is on my work computer at the office. Tell me where to find global ICQ logs and I'll check on them in the morning.
Actually no, I have nothing to prove. This was a dead issue and he came back here and posted false ICQ logs. I wouldnt post logs of an affiliate conversation anyway. He may have been called an idiot but posting ICQ logs takes it too far.
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:10 AM   #99
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OWNED!

Too bad you didnt screenshot the part I said you lied about.
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Old 11-18-2003, 12:11 AM   #100
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"posting ICQ logs takes it too far."? your boss was on awi telling him to post them.
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