Intelligence Report Links Saddam, Usama

[theking]

Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein (search) gave terror lord Usama bin Laden's thugs financial and logistical support, offering Al Qaeda (search) money, training and haven for more than a decade, it was reported yesterday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103163,00.html

[BlackCrayon]

fox news the only source? heh

[kmanrox]

let's nuke em

[theking]

Originally posted by BlackCrayon
fox news the only source? heh

Is it? I don't know.

[mule]

Originally posted by theking
Intelligence Report Links Saddam, Usama

The same source that claimed Iraq had WMD's ?
*grin*

[Gemini]

Original conception date: Sept. 14th, 2001

Editing for release: Nov. 13th, 2003

Elections are a'coming!

[theking]

Originally posted by BlackCrayon
fox news the only source? heh

I was short on time this morning...but now that I have reviewed the FOX article...I have learned that FOX is not the original source.

This is the actual source and it has a lengthy in depth report...and is a must read for those that want to stay informed.

Case Closed
From the November 24, 2003 issue: The U.S. government's secret memo detailing cooperation between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.
by Stephen F. Hayes
11/24/2003, Volume 009, Issue 11
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OSAMA BIN LADEN and Saddam Hussein had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and weapons of mass destruction, logistical support for terrorist attacks, al Qaeda training camps and safe haven in Iraq, and Iraqi financial support for al Qaeda--perhaps even for Mohamed Atta--according to a top secret U.S. government memorandum obtained by THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/378fmxyz.asp

[Digipimp]

Yeah it's always relevant when some politcal assassin pieces together 30 or 40 pieces of info to support his bosses arguement from the millions of pieces of info that the CIA possesses.

[directfiesta]

I have seen pics of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam.

Can I see one of Osoma shaking hands with Saddam???

[genomega]

Originally posted by directfiesta
I have seen pics of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam.

Can I see one of Osoma shaking hands with Saddam???

NO!

Opinions from quebec are like assholes.

[Reak]

Originally posted by kmanrox
let's nuke em

lets

[theking]

Originally posted by directfiesta
I have seen pics of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam.

Can I see one of Osoma shaking hands with Saddam???

Why? You would just proclaim it to be a doctored photo.

[Thrawn$]

Originally posted by directfiesta
I have seen pics of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam.

Can I see one of Osoma shaking hands with Saddam???

[theking]

The memo, dated October 27, 2003, was sent from Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith to Senators Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller, the chairman and vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. It was written in response to a request from the committee as part of its investigation into prewar intelligence claims made by the administration. Intelligence reporting included in the 16-page memo comes from a variety of domestic and foreign agencies, including the FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency. Much of the evidence is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources. Some of it is new information obtained in custodial interviews with high-level al Qaeda terrorists and Iraqi officials, and some of it is more than a decade old. The picture that emerges is one of a history of collaboration between two of America's most determined and dangerous enemies.

According to the memo--which lays out the intelligence in 50 numbered points--Iraq-al Qaeda contacts began in 1990 and continued through mid-March 2003, days before the Iraq War began. Most of the numbered passages contain straight, fact-based intelligence reporting, which in
some cases includes an evaluation of the credibility of the source. This reporting is often followed by commentary and analysis.

[theking]

The relationship began shortly before the first Gulf War. According to reporting in the memo, bin Laden sent "emissaries to Jordan in 1990 to meet with Iraqi government officials." At some unspecified point in 1991, according to a CIA analysis, "Iraq sought Sudan's assistance to establish links to al Qaeda." The outreach went in both directions. According to 1993 CIA reporting cited in the memo, "bin Laden wanted to expand his organization's capabilities through ties with Iraq."

The primary go-between throughout these early stages was Sudanese strongman Hassan al-Turabi, a leader of the al Qaeda-affiliated National Islamic Front. Numerous sources have confirmed this. One defector reported that "al-Turabi was instrumental in arranging the Iraqi-al Qaeda relationship. The defector said Iraq sought al Qaeda influence through its connections with Afghanistan, to facilitate the transshipment of proscribed weapons and equipment to Iraq. In return, Iraq provided al Qaeda with training and instructors."

[partytime]

I hope both of them are alraedy dead.

[Theo]

Laden was trained and funded at his early stages by CIA. Your own tax money caused NY tragedy. Truth hurts.

[SL|M!]

Is this the same intelligence that said there was Weapons Of Mass Destruction?!

[Troels]

Originally posted by theking
Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein (search) gave terror lord Usama bin Laden's thugs financial and logistical support, offering Al Qaeda (search) money, training and haven for more than a decade, it was reported yesterday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103163,00.html

Hahahahaha foxnews.....

Please, those guys wanted to take on the Simpsons in court.

Foxnews... HAHAHAHA

They're gonna have bikini babes reading the "news" soon.....

[Centurion]

Originally posted by theking

According to the memo--which lays out the intelligence in 50 numbered points

Brought to you by the same incredible intelligence operations that has assured us that Saddam was developing nuclear weapons and other great weapons of mass destruction that could be used in a matter of hours against the United States and other countries.

And who can forget their uncanny info that allowed us to kill Saddam with a BIG BOMB before the war even began!

Yes, when you think of intelligence..think of G.W. Bush & Co.!
They're never wrong!

Or at least they'll never admit to being wrong!

(It's only been 6 months and Iraq's a big country..those WMDs could be hidden under any oasis!)

[theking]

Originally posted by Troels


Hahahahaha foxnews.....

Please, those guys wanted to take on the Simpsons in court.

Foxnews... HAHAHAHA

They're gonna have bikini babes reading the "news" soon.....

Fox News is not the source...pay attention.

[theking]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Laden was trained and funded at his early stages by CIA. Your own tax money caused NY tragedy. Truth hurts.

He was part of a force that was attempting to repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. It was US policy during the cold war to contain the Soviet Union. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." US tax money had zero to do with 9/11.

[Roger]

The source is a guy who works for the Bush administration and this guy's sources, who are they? Nobody knows. Probably the same people who provided the documents about Saddam seeking nukes from a certain country.

Where are all those weapons provided by Saddam btw? A US plane? Box cutters? Home-made explosives that can barely destroy a building?

[Mr.Fiction]

Here is an update on this story from the U.S. Government's website:

News reports that the Defense Department recently confirmed new information with respect to contacts between al-Qaida and Iraq in a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee are inaccurate.

http://www.dod.mil/releases/2003/nr20031115-0642.html

[Roger]

Originally posted by theking


He was part of a force that was attempting to repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. It was US policy during the cold war to contain the Soviet Union. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." US tax money had zero to do with 9/11.

And what happened on March 2001 when they paid ~$240 million to the Talibans?

[Theo]

Originally posted by theking

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

You gave the answer. USA involvement bounced back. Now Laden may serve the same "logic": The enemy of my enemy is my friend

Find a president who will be able to step away from this type of reasoning and you'll be safer than ever. You create your enemies like all ultra powerful countries in the past.

[theking]

Originally posted by Roger
The source is a guy who works for the Bush administration and this guy's sources, who are they? Nobody knows. Probably the same people who provided the documents about Saddam seeking nukes from a certain country.

Where are all those weapons provided by Saddam btw? A US plane? Box cutters? Home-made explosives that can barely destroy a building?

Intelligence reporting included in the 16-page memo comes from a variety of domestic and foreign agencies, including the FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency. Much of the evidence is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources. Some of it is new information obtained in custodial interviews with high-level al Qaeda terrorists and Iraqi officials, and some of it is more than a decade old. The picture that emerges is one of a history of collaboration between two of America's most determined and dangerous enemies.

Said Levin: "The question is whether or not they exaggerated intelligence in order to carry out their purpose, which was to make the case for going to war. Did we know, for instance, with certainty that there was any relationship between the Iraqis and the terrorists that were in Afghanistan, bin Laden? The administration said that there's a connection between those terrorist groups in Afghanistan and Iraq. Was there a basis for that?"

There was, as shown in the memo to the committee on which Levin serves. And much of the reporting comes from Clinton-era intelligence.

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by theking


Intelligence reporting included in the 16-page memo comes from a variety of domestic and foreign agencies, including the FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency. Much of the evidence is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources. Some of it is new information obtained in custodial interviews with high-level al Qaeda terrorists and Iraqi officials, and some of it is more than a decade old. The picture that emerges is one of a history of collaboration between two of America's most determined and dangerous enemies.

Said Levin: "The question is whether or not they exaggerated intelligence in order to carry out their purpose, which was to make the case for going to war. Did we know, for instance, with certainty that there was any relationship between the Iraqis and the terrorists that were in Afghanistan, bin Laden? The administration said that there's a connection between those terrorist groups in Afghanistan and Iraq. Was there a basis for that?"

There was, as shown in the memo to the committee on which Levin serves. And much of the reporting comes from Clinton-era intelligence.

Here is an update on this story from the U.S. Government's website:

News reports that the Defense Department recently confirmed new information with respect to contacts between al-Qaida and Iraq in a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee are inaccurate.

http://www.dod.mil/releases/2003/nr20031115-0642.html

[The Truth Hurts]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Here is an update on this story from the U.S. Government's website:

what a change...

all of the sudden, you're going to start believing the US government?

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts



what a change...

all of the sudden, you're going to start believing the US government?

You are the one who believes everything Bush says, right?

Bush says you got suckered.

[theking]

Originally posted by Roger


And what happened on March 2001 when they paid ~$240 million to the Talibans?

The Taliban is not al Qaeda. We provided financial aid to Afganistan...and even sent aid after 9/11 as an on going program.

[Roger]

Originally posted by theking
Intelligence reporting included in the 16-page memo comes from a variety of domestic and foreign agencies, including the FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency. Much of the evidence is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources. Some of it is new information obtained in custodial interviews with high-level al Qaeda terrorists and Iraqi officials, and some of it is more than a decade old. The picture that emerges is one of a history of collaboration between two of America's most determined and dangerous enemies.

Well the DoD already said that those reports on Al-Qaida and Iraq connections are inaccurate. What more do you want?

11 years of relationship with Saddam got them a few box cutters and plane tickets? quiet impressive.

[The Truth Hurts]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


You are the one who believes everything Bush says, right?

Not quite, you just have the attention span of my left nut.

you keep trying to stick that to me, i'll keep pointing out what a pathetic piece of shit you are... deal?

[titmowse]

# Nov. 15, 2003: Two U.S. Black Hawks crash in Mosul, killing 17 and injuring 5, with one missing.

fuck this fucking war

oops. i mean peace

[The Truth Hurts]

Originally posted by titmowse
# Nov. 15, 2003: Two U.S. Black Hawks crash in Mosul, killing 17 and injuring 5, with one missing.

fuck this fucking war

prime example of the pussification of americans.

[Theo]

any comment on this theking?

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


You gave the answer. USA involvement bounced back. Now Laden may serve the same "logic": The enemy of my enemy is my friend

Find a president who will be able to step away from this type of reasoning and you'll be safer than ever. You create your enemies like all ultra powerful countries in the past.

Your positions would make even Bush to wonder

[theking]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Here is an update on this story from the U.S. Government's website:

News reports that the Defense Department recently confirmed new information with respect to contacts between al-Qaida and Iraq in a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee are inaccurate.

http://www.dod.mil/releases/2003/nr20031115-0642.html

All that they are saying is that the DOD has not confirmed the accuracy of recent information with respect to contacts between al-Qaida and Iraq. It is raw data and has yet to be confirmed.

[titmowse]

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


prime example of the pussification of americans.

how many bodies until we win? i think everyone would love to know.

[Roger]

Originally posted by titmowse


how many bodies until we win? i think everyone would love to know.

He's still got 6 more countries to invade, you gotta be patient. He has to follow God's plan, he's got faith

[theking]

Originally posted by Roger


Well the DoD already said that those reports on Al-Qaida and Iraq connections are inaccurate. What more do you want?

11 years of relationship with Saddam got them a few box cutters and plane tickets? quiet impressive.

No...that is not what the DOD said. What the DOD said is that it is inaccurate to say that the "RECENT" information they (the DOD)have obtained has been confirmed. It is raw...as of yet unconfirmed...data.

[The Truth Hurts]

Originally posted by titmowse


how many bodies until we win? i think everyone would love to know.

we'd be out already of we weren't treating the joint with kid gloves.

but we gotta try and make people like you happy and put more importance on the protecting the enemy at the same time we're trying to get rid of them.

so it gets dragged out, and people die.

[Roger]

Originally posted by theking


No...that is not what the DOD said. What the DOD said is that it is inaccurate to say that the "RECENT" information they (the DOD)have obtained has been confirmed. It is raw...as of yet unconfirmed...data.

The classified annex was not an analysis of the substantive issue of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaida, and it drew no conclusions.

But I'm sure that Al-Qaida had no choice but to collaborate with there enemy in order to get money and weapons from him Perhaps it's time for me to hide in my basement, the terrorists are coming with Saddam's WMD's.

[titmowse]

Originally posted by Roger


He's still got 6 more countries to invade, you gotta be patient. He has to follow God's plan, he's got faith

"President Bush doesn't want pictures of flag-draped coffins on television for the same reason he has yet to attend the funeral of one American soldier killed in Iraq. He doesn't want to be seen standing next to a coffin."

link

[theking]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
any comment on this theking?



Your positions would make even Bush to wonder

The same comment..."The enemy of my enemy is my friend". It is not a new concept...as been employed by many in history...and will be employed by many in the future. It is a world in flux.

[titmowse]

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts


we'd be out already of we weren't treating the joint with kid gloves.

but we gotta try and make people like you happy and put more importance on the protecting the enemy at the same time we're trying to get rid of them.

so it gets dragged out, and people die.

we wouldn't have soldiers dying in iraq if we had just not gone.

[theking]

Originally posted by titmowse


how many bodies until we win? i think everyone would love to know.

I of course do not know...but the war that was declared after 9/11 was a global war against terrorists...and is expected to last for several decades...so if I were you I would think in terms tens of thousands of American losses and ten times that amount in non-American losses.

[Theo]

sounds good plan to me, what will the outcome be?

[titmowse]

Originally posted by theking


I of course do not know...but the war that was declared after 9/11 was a global war against terrorists...and is expected to last for several decades...so if I were you I would think in terms tens of thousands of American losses and ten times that amount in non-American losses.

and then we win, right?

[Roger]

Originally posted by titmowse


and then we win, right?

Why do you care? You'd be very old or probably dead by then

[titmowse]

Originally posted by Roger


Why do you care? You'd be very old or probably dead by then

beats me. it's not like anyone will be around after i die