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Old 11-15-2003, 08:40 AM   #51
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Dialers were banned from use for Australian premium rate service providers as of August this year.

Over the last 12 months or so the "Telephone Information Services Standards Council" in Australia, received on average 600-700 complaints per day about dialer charges.

IMO dialers can be used as a legitimate content access tool, but as usual, the past abuses have left it perilously tarnished..
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Old 11-15-2003, 08:41 AM   #52
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51 requests for a list of what the surfers pay per minute.
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Old 11-15-2003, 11:25 AM   #53
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52 posts and no rates for surfers, this might get interesting because I'm not going to let it die. If they can show me that they do offer low prices to surfer or comparable prices to monthly charges with honest upfront marketing I may signup myself and see how it works. Otherwise I've just called it like I see it.
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Old 11-15-2003, 09:46 PM   #54
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still no answer here? I'm curious what the rates are as well
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Old 11-15-2003, 11:43 PM   #55
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still no answer here? I'm curious what the rates are as well
They're not going to answer, I've been asking and keep asking and they've pretty much refused to give me the rates for each country. The best I can get is a couple example prices for 2 or 3 countries.
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:18 AM   #56
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Quick hop on and start charging your surfers a few dollars a minute to view your shitty sites that aren't even worth the $30 a month you normally ask for. Raping surfers is never a bad thing, at least you don't get charged back and VISA won't get mad at you. Who cares if it's ethical, you've got to pay for your cocaine and Lexus somehow right?

Damn... Talk about not educated
I used to hate dialers myself but here is a small fact that Americans do not understand...

Europeans and many other parts of the world prefer a dialer.

Go ahead keep trying to sell traffic to your bandwidth leaches that have no credit card! Thats just fuckin stupid.

Evolve or die in this business. Thats what it is comming down to.
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:21 AM   #57
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Damn... Talk about not educated
I used to hate dialers myself but here is a small fact that Americans do not understand...

Europeans and many other parts of the world prefer a dialer.

Go ahead keep trying to sell traffic to your bandwidth leaches that have no credit card! Thats just fuckin stupid.

Evolve or die in this business. Thats what it is comming down to.

Well said.

Does this guy even have a site?
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:30 AM   #58
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Seriously I do not even work traffic. However judging by the response of ADS I would basically assume a majority of Adult Webmasters have no clue about what to do with there traffic or how to maximise there earnings from it!

This is shocking to me. Really it is.

Jebus fuggin chrix...
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:39 AM   #59
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Smartone, you actually decided which URL you would like your US/Can traffic to go to or it defaults to a paysite in the ARS portfolio.

The dialer does NOT auto-download the surfer has to click yes to the download. In addition when they connect each time they must agree to the Terms of Service regarding the rates, etc.
Thanks Toolz,

That's what I thought.

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Old 11-16-2003, 01:02 AM   #60
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Seriously I do not even work traffic. However judging by the response of ADS I would basically assume a majority of Adult Webmasters have no clue about what to do with there traffic or how to maximise there earnings from it!

This is shocking to me. Really it is.

Jebus fuggin chrix...
Well my guess is they are mostly just surfers who clicked a webmaster link somewhere. Now they get paid to post so who knows
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Old 11-16-2003, 01:55 AM   #61
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Seriously I do not even work traffic. However judging by the response of ADS I would basically assume a majority of Adult Webmasters have no clue about what to do with there traffic or how to maximise there earnings from it!

This is shocking to me. Really it is.

Jebus fuggin chrix...

Agreed.

All this concearn for the surfer is touching. It's obviously coming from the same do gooders who feel it's also their job to protect the surfer from blind links, popups, search engine spam, and "free trial membership". Hell, look at the title of this thread........"Now you can rape your surfers......" Give me a fucking break! You hobbyists need to get another hobby! On second thought, keep building your galleries, stick with the TGP's, get that surfer to bookmark your site. And I'll keep raping my surfers!

If you haven't figured it out by know, you're never going too.
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Old 11-16-2003, 01:57 AM   #62
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Agreed.

All this concearn for the surfer is touching. It's obviously coming from the same do gooders who feel it's also their job to protect the surfer from blind links, popups, search engine spam, and "free trial membership". Hell, look at the title of this thread........"Now you can rape your surfers......" Give me a fucking break! You hobbyists need to get another hobby! On second thought, keep building your galleries, stick with the TGP's, get that surfer to bookmark your site. And I'll keep raping my surfers!

If you haven't figured it out by know, you're never going too.
What he said
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Old 11-16-2003, 04:25 AM   #63
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these mercenaries trying to defend dialers make me laugh...
"expensive?! they're only $50-$100 an hour these days instead of $300 an hour like they used to be!"

reminds me of those persian rug tv scams...
"usually $50,000...now marked down to only $1000!!"

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