Makes me wonder at the very least. I was calling shitty dialer tactics out and they were quick to jump in on that. But I said I'm open to see the change but I want to see a sufers rates by country and convince me that you're not fucking them. I looked at their dialer sites and I couldnt' find a link to rate info or anything.

Its hard to know the exact rates for all countries. Since 90% of the numbers are international terminators, so it varies a lot there, even in the country depending on the telco used.

In Germany, the call will likely cost 1.86 EUR per minute (which is $2.19 currently) But since they only pay 0.50 it might be one of the cheaper numbers. In Austria, it COULD be as expensive as 3 EUR per minute ($3.53) but it depends on the type of number.
For the rest, I am not sure, since i do not know the rates off hand. Only ADS can of course give you the real ones.

Didn't notice this post, correct rates for the countries i know (Germany, Austria, Belgium)

dilers = anal rape surfers

Exactly why free sites and TGP's ruin the biz and take away at least 35% of revenues that could be paying us all.

I say kill the free porn, make everyone pay to see porn on the web and you will see a raise in revenues on every check...guaranteed!!!

But this will never happen due to the TGP popularity to drive traffic or sell traffic and due to avs masters using free sites to upsell to their paysites.

its much like expecting someone to push a paysite not knowing what the surfers are paying for a trial/monthly membership. i haven't pushed a dialer since all the bullshit with the FTC went down a few years back but we knew how much surfers were being charged at least.

You know I love to see these assclowns jump on and say well in Bulgaria it's only 35 cents a minute so we're no ripping anyone off. Hahaha you dumb fucks have cheaper rates in those countries, yeah cheaper if you're a US citizen, what do you think 35 cents a minute is worth to someone in Bulgaria, my guess is it's about $3 a minute here as it is with many of those poor eastern european countries. Is anyone buying that bullshit?

:ak47:

but thats the eternal problem. you can't just axe all pics all together. what reason would surfers have for going to see your site? kill tgps/free sites, ect but where would those guys all go? i agree that tgps are too much but you need to give the surfers something to look in my opinion.

I'm with you, I wish we could kill TGP and MGP, freesites and all these fuckers dragging the industry down and bringing negative heat. Kill all these fuckers, dialers, TGP, MGP, freesites off and revenues would rise without a doubt and pull a little heat off the protection of children. But these assclowns are all about a quick buck even if it's at the expense of society and their own industry.

49 times it will be asked what the rates are for surfers but not answered.

:1orglaugh

Dialers were banned from use for Australian premium rate service providers as of August this year.

Over the last 12 months or so the "Telephone Information Services Standards Council" in Australia, received on average 600-700 complaints per day about dialer charges.

IMO dialers can be used as a legitimate content access tool, but as usual, the past abuses have left it perilously tarnished..

51 requests for a list of what the surfers pay per minute.

52 posts and no rates for surfers, this might get interesting because I'm not going to let it die. If they can show me that they do offer low prices to surfer or comparable prices to monthly charges with honest upfront marketing I may signup myself and see how it works. Otherwise I've just called it like I see it.

still no answer here? I'm curious what the rates are as well

They're not going to answer, I've been asking and keep asking and they've pretty much refused to give me the rates for each country. The best I can get is a couple example prices for 2 or 3 countries.

Damn... Talk about not educated:1orglaugh :1orglaugh
I used to hate dialers myself but here is a small fact that Americans do not understand...

Europeans and many other parts of the world prefer a dialer.

Go ahead keep trying to sell traffic to your bandwidth leaches that have no credit card! Thats just fuckin stupid.

Evolve or die in this business. Thats what it is comming down to.

Well said.

Does this guy even have a site?

Seriously I do not even work traffic. However judging by the response of ADS I would basically assume a majority of Adult Webmasters have no clue about what to do with there traffic or how to maximise there earnings from it!

This is shocking to me. Really it is.

Jebus fuggin chrix...

Thanks Toolz,

That's what I thought.

Snowone

Well my guess is they are mostly just surfers who clicked a webmaster link somewhere. Now they get paid to post so who knows :)

Agreed.

All this concearn for the surfer is touching. It's obviously coming from the same do gooders who feel it's also their job to protect the surfer from blind links, popups, search engine spam, and "free trial membership". Hell, look at the title of this thread........"Now you can rape your surfers......" Give me a fucking break! You hobbyists need to get another hobby! On second thought, keep building your galleries, stick with the TGP's, get that surfer to bookmark your site. And I'll keep raping my surfers!

If you haven't figured it out by know, you're never going too.

What he said

these mercenaries trying to defend dialers make me laugh...
"expensive?! they're only $50-$100 an hour these days instead of $300 an hour like they used to be!" :1orglaugh

reminds me of those persian rug tv scams...
"usually $50,000...now marked down to only $1000!!"

:ak47: dialer dealers

:thumbsup digipimp