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Dirty F · 11-14-2003, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Marcus

lol, hardly
have you ever seen a rich waiter? I haven't.

you probably don't realize what it's like being on your feet for 4-12 hours straight running back and forth, dealing with asshole cooks, asshole manager and asshole customers. it's a hard job it's not easy.
and if they do make good money they had to work their bloody asses off for it.

I'd never be a waiter again, I'd rather collect cans out of the garbage. it's a hard job and therefore I appreciate the people who do it.

Read above, i did it for 8 years.

Dirty F · 11-14-2003, 01:33 AM

Forest, can you please send me some money through paypal.
I work so hard everyday, sometimes up to 10 hours a day and i never know what my income will be at the end of the moment.
Please pity me.
100 bucks should be ok for now.
You can send another 100 tomorrow.

Furious_Female · 11-14-2003, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss

Arrgh here we go again.

If you think like that why dont you give money to the other 90% of americans who have a min wage?

Did it eve occur to you that thanks to people like you these guys get overpaid by far! They are making way more money then what they should for their job.
In Holland someone has to work more than a hour for what you tip a person to bring you a shitty sandwich.
You are honestly out of your mind.

Because servers don't get minimum wage... they get around $2 bucks an hour and their money depends on the tips they get. Minimum wage is like $6 an hour otherwise. And if I could tip other min. wage people for good service, I would... but it's not appropriate in say Walmart or something. I tip whenever I can... it's not about anything other than showing my appreciation for a good service/product. If it's shitty, I don't indulge... but I'm usually on the generous side.

My grandmother was a bartender for over 20 years before she became a nurse... she used to get tips in quarters back in the day and give them to my mom, aunts, uncles for lunch money... she STILL has quarters saved from 20 years ago.... tips mean a lot to some people.

Forest · 11-14-2003, 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss

Arrgh here we go again.

If you think like that why dont you give money to the other 90% of americans who have a min wage?

Did it eve occur to you that thanks to people like you these guys get overpaid by far! They are making way more money then what they should for their job.
In Holland someone has to work more than a hour for what you tip a person to bring you a shitty sandwich.
You are honestly out of your mind.

battus

its your european ideas that will never understand our concept of tipping

as waiters we hate waiting on euros for that exact reason

Its Not that your wrong its that you dont understand our way of doing things

and remember if a waiter sells 2k a day in food and booze he must pay tax on 8% of that which comes out of his houlry wage

In Fl, Ny, Oh, Ca, (the states ive waited in) My hourly was LESS than 3.00 a hour

so where do u see the minimum wage in there especially afetr the government takes all of it for the taxes and ALL the waiters get was the tip

I remember getting check stubs with a NEGATIVE amount on them because my hoiurly didnt even match the % of tax i had to pay on SALES!

Forest · 11-14-2003, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss

100 bucks a day extra eh?
Thats more than 10 hours of work for the average Dutch guy with an average job who is working just as hard as any waiter.

This is insane..oh no wait, its America where everything has to be bigger and more.

THERE IS NO EXTRA 9 times out of ten

Dirty F · 11-14-2003, 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by Forest

battus

its your european ideas that will never understand our concept of tipping

as waiters we hate waiting on euros for that exact reason

Its Not that your wrong its that you dont understand our way of doing things

and remember if a waiter sells 2k a day in food and booze he must pay tax on 8% of that which comes out of his houlry wage

In Fl, Ny, Oh, Ca, (the states ive waited in) My hourly was LESS than 3.00 a hour

so where do u see the minimum wage in there especially afetr the government takes all of it for the taxes and ALL the waiters get was the tip

I remember getting check stubs with a NEGATIVE amount on them because my hoiurly didnt even match the % of tax i had to pay on SALES!

I understand what you are saying but still, anybody who goes home with 100 or more in tips a day on top of his normal salary has a fucking good job!

Forest · 11-14-2003, 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Forest, can you please send me some money through paypal.
I work so hard everyday, sometimes up to 10 hours a day and i never know what my income will be at the end of the moment.
Please pity me.
100 bucks should be ok for now.
You can send another 100 tomorrow.

If you were to perform some service for me and you performed it well i would have NO PROBLEM paying you extra

and u may work hard everyday

but not for me

Marcus · 11-14-2003, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by Forest

I remember getting check stubs with a NEGATIVE amount on them because my hoiurly didnt even match the % of tax i had to pay on SALES!

I remember getting those too, I forgot about those.

damn, memories of hell

DirkG · 11-14-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Forest
and battus i know your thick so ill post the awards so you dont have to go searching for them

1986-1993 South Florida Magazine's Critics Choice Award.

1986-1993 South Florida Magazine's Reader's Choice Award.

1987-1994 Florida Trend Magazine has voted us in the Top 100 .

1991-2001 Our Wine List has been given the Award of Excellence from The Wine Spectator each of these years.

1992 Florida Trend Magazine Golden Spoon Award, representing the Top 20 Restaurants.

1994 Radio KEY 93 'The 4th Annual People's Choice Awards for 1994' 'Key West's Favorites' Overall Best Restaurant and Place for Romantic Dinner .

1995 Fine Dining Award, Florida Living Magazine .

1995 4 Stars , The Miami Herald .

1995-2001 Florida Trend Magazine's Top 200 Restaurants .

1996 Zagat Survey's Most Popular Restaurant and tied for Top Decor with Little Palm Island.

1996 Reader's Choice Best of the Best award, Florida Living Magazine .

1996 Best Romantic Restaurant , South Florida Magazine .

1998 Most Romantic Restaurant, Miami Metro Magazine .

In addition, Louie's has been featured in the Key West Citizen's Best of Key West several times.

Louie's is also a founding member of the 'Distinguished Restaurants of North America'.

As you can see, Louie's Backyard is one of the finest fine dining establishments in the South.

Impressive. I should have been able to tell you were from Florida by what you were saying about min wage. The owner of the restaraunt I am the GM at moved here from Florida and nearly flipped out when he found out he had to pay everyone $7 an hour.

Forest · 11-14-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss

I understand what you are saying but still, anybody who goes home with 100 or more in tips a day on top of his normal salary has a fucking good job!

please re read the post

THERE ISW NO XTRA most of the time

i wish i had some old pay stubs that showed a - 150.00 for the week because my sales far exceeded any houlry i got

That means I had to take an extra 150 out of my pocket at the end of the year for that week to pay the tax on it

Forest · 11-14-2003, 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by DirkG

Impressive. I should have been able to tell you were from Florida by what you were saying about min wage. The owner of the restaraunt I am the GM at moved here from Florida and nearly flipped out when he found out he had to pay everyone $7 an hour.

florida RAPES their service personel

then we get ALL the euro tourists and canadiens that dont know about american tipping

1/2 the time u get a 5% tip on a 600.00 meal that you worked your ass off for 3 hours on

Thats less than 10 buck an hour

sound rich to any of you guys?

Dirty F · 11-14-2003, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by Forest

please re read the post

THERE ISW NO XTRA most of the time

i wish i had some old pay stubs that showed a - 150.00 for the week because my sales far exceeded any houlry i got

That means I had to take an extra 150 out of my pocket at the end of the year for that week to pay the tax on it

Aight i believe you. But are you still up to date? I mean, this might have been like this 20 years ago but my experience in the US showed me otherwise.

If we go to a stripclub in NY our waitress goes home with 150 bucks from our table alone.

BTW, altho i dont agree with this tipping thing i have to say i always do tip when im in the US, according to US standards.
Im not the euro asshole that doesnt fit in. But still i think its crazy

tootie · 11-14-2003, 01:45 AM

I was a waitress years ago and I remember someone left one of the other waitresses a penny for a tip after their table of 10 people ran her ragged. She started to cry because she'd worked her ASS off for those people who kept insulting her and laughing at her, expecting to get a decent tip from such a large check because her rent was past due and she really needed the money. I went outside and said, "Excuse me, sir. You seem to have left some money on the table." and I handed him his penny. He turned BEET RED. I guess he thought they'd be long gone before she discovered the tip.

I came back in and handed her a $10 bill out of my own tip apron and told her that they apologized and asked me to give it to her. I wish I could have done more but if I'd given her more she wouldn't have believed it really came from them.

Waiting tables is a terrible job. I ending up dumping a desert in this rude bitch's lap and walking out because I got so tired of the bullshit. I remember, and I tip well.

$5 submissions · 11-14-2003, 01:49 AM

Okay, since this is a hot topic:

Why do we tip some restaurant workers and not others?

McDonalds' people don't get tipped... but sit down restaurants do.

Anybody have a coherent theory behind this social phenomenon?

Plan9 · 11-14-2003, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by tootie
I was a waitress years ago and I remember someone left one of the other waitresses a penny for a tip after their table of 10 people ran her ragged. She started to cry because she'd worked her ASS off for those people who kept insulting her and laughing at her, expecting to get a decent tip from such a large check because her rent was past due and she really needed the money. I went outside and said, "Excuse me, sir. You seem to have left some money on the table." and I handed him his penny. He turned BEET RED. I guess he thought they'd be long gone before she discovered the tip.

I came back in and handed her a $10 bill out of my own tip apron and told her that they apologized and asked me to give it to her. I wish I could have done more but if I'd given her more she wouldn't have believed it really came from them.

Waiting tables is a terrible job. I ending up dumping a desert in this rude bitch's lap and walking out because I got so tired of the bullshit. I remember, and I tip well.

I had a friend leave a .01 tip, once. Sad thing is, two of the people we were eating there with were waitresses at that restauraunt, so they knew the person serving us. They reamed him royally, and he ended up getting embarrassed and paying.

Forest · 11-14-2003, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss

Aight i believe you. But are you still up to date? I mean, this might have been like this 20 years ago but my experience in the US showed me otherwise.

If we go to a stripclub in NY our waitress goes home with 150 bucks from our table alone.

BTW, altho i dont agree with this tipping thing i have to say i always do tip when im in the US, according to US standards.
Im not the euro asshole that doesnt fit in. But still i think its crazy

i know in fl this is still current as I am louies atleast 1x a month for dinner drinks whatever

the other states Im not sure of

and Im glad to hear you abide by our customs when here as I do when im overseas as I am currently

DirkG · 11-14-2003, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by Forest

florida RAPES their service personel

then we get ALL the euro tourists and canadiens that dont know about american tipping

1/2 the time u get a 5% tip on a 600.00 meal that you worked your ass off for 3 hours on

Thats less than 10 buck an hour

sound rich to any of you guys?

Remember not every state is the same. Only a few states let you pay your people less than minimun wage. We pay $7 an hour to tipped employees. That means that 50% of my employees make more money at the end of the week than I do as the General manager and they work half the time. In fact I just had a guy beg me to go on salary for a 60 hour week at $240 a week because he knows in those 6 days he can make close to $600 in tips plus his $240. Not too many jobs in Oregon will pay someone $800 a week.

tootie · 11-14-2003, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
Okay, since this is a hot topic:

Why do we tip some restaurant workers and not others?

McDonalds' people don't get tipped... but sit down restaurants do.

Anybody have a coherent theory behind this social phenomenon?

McDonalds workers get paid minimum wage or higher, but wait staff are paid much lower, usually around $3 per hour ($3.15 I think?) I believe I heard that the tipping phenomenon started as a way to thank people for performing an extra service. McDonalds makes you walk up to the counter and order your food, carry it to the table yourself, come back to the counter for drink refills, etc. And you have to clean your own table off. But in sit-down establishments someone does it for you. The tip is a thank-you for the extra service.

Forest · 11-14-2003, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
Okay, since this is a hot topic:

Why do we tip some restaurant workers and not others?

McDonalds' people don't get tipped... but sit down restaurants do.

Anybody have a coherent theory behind this social phenomenon?

have you ever gotten "sevice" at mcd's?

i havent

Forest · 11-14-2003, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by DirkG

Remember not every state is the same. Only a few states let you pay your people less than minimun wage. We pay $7 an hour to tipped employees. That means that 50% of my employees make more money at the end of the week than I do as the General manager and they work half the time. In fact I just had a guy beg me to go on salary for a 60 hour week at $240 a week because he knows in those 6 days he can make close to $600 in tips plus his $240. Not too many jobs in Oregon will pay someone $800 a week.

dirk

Thats the nature of the beast

At louies ALL my waitstaff made more thyan I as the manager

$5 submissions · 11-14-2003, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by Forest

have you ever gotten "sevice" at mcd's?

i havent

I haven't ordered sevice at mcd's ... not ceviche either

I see your theory. MCD = Not "real" service Other restaurants = "service"

I guess the days I grew zits manning the french fry station at Carl's Junior wasn't service. Or my co worker's hand delivery of people's orders is not service either.

Forest · 11-14-2003, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions

I haven't ordered sevice at mcd's ... not ceviche either

I see your theory. MCD = Not "real" service Other restaurants = "service"

I guess the days I grew zits manning the french fry station at Carl's Junior wasn't service. Or my co worker's hand delivery of people's orders is not service either.

MMMMM

I LOVE ceviche

squid octopus fish mmmmm

well the real theory on service is if I am sitting and you have to come and serve me i will tip you

Tipping has gone WAY overboard in america

went to the record store before i left america

at the check out there was a Tip Jar

I thought WTF no one even helped me

abdab_1 · 11-14-2003, 06:19 AM

you have to tip, its not even open for discussion.

Working behind a bar they tell you in the interview if you provide good service you will earn good money and its true.

I used to do what I could to make people have a top time if they didnt tip they waited in line when they came back.

TIPS RULES

Jer · 11-14-2003, 06:44 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Forest, why exactly do these guys deserve huge tips and people having other jobs dont?
Give me a good reason to tip waiters like mad so they can go home with triple the amount of what anybody else would make.

Are they forced to do this job? Is it hell on earth? Is it slavery?
No, its a job like any other job.

Did you tip anything while in Rio?

In Brazil our restaurants bill usually comes with "10% service tax". You pay it if you want. I always do. Very few times I tip more than that. It's not expected.

Do you give tips to the guys that install stuff like cable TV, telephone, etc? I gave R$10 (around $3.50) to the telephone guy and he was VERY surprised, heheh.

who · 11-14-2003, 06:51 AM

High tipping is for fakers.

KobyBoy · 11-14-2003, 06:52 AM

I live in New York so it's second nature for me to leave tips. Tip the waiter/waitress, the cab driver, the bellhop, the concierge, bartender, etc... As many know we have 8.25% sales tax here so the easiest way to tip is to just double the tax (my little tip for you folks out of town coming to the Big Apple).

However there was this one time when I refused the tip. I was out with my girl having drinks and dinner at this restaraunt. My food came out cold so I sent it back to reheat it, the service was slow, had to ask to refill our water glasses, etc... all in all the service was not too good. When the bill came I left exactly 15%. Waiter comes to pick up the check and we are getting up ready to leave. On my way out the waiter comes after me telling that I didn't leave enough tip and this is his livelyhood. At first I thought I didn't hear correctly and ask him to repeat what he just said. Tells me again and hands me back the tab, I grab a pen and cross out the tip leaving him nothing. Hand it back to him and leave. Was feeling pretty bad about it but if you have the balls to come up to me asking for more tip after such a poor service you gave me, you are forcing me to be a jerk.

Tytan · 11-14-2003, 07:01 AM

Last tip I gave was about $40, service was good & the food was ok.

BrentD · 11-14-2003, 07:03 AM

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Originally posted by krazyone
O.k. I went out tonight to have a meal at Chilis . I was dieing for some babyback ribs. So everything so so when we get done the waiter comes over with the ticket and promplty turns and walks across the room just watching us from a distance. I jokeingly say to my girl how much her half is . I divide the $31.02 ticket up and tell her she owes me $15.51 . She looks in her purse as if to pull out some money . I reach in my wallet and pull out a $50.00 bill and lay it on the table. The waiter almost gallops over to the table and picks it up off the table . Looks at me and says will you be wanting any change. I look up in amazement and say well YES! So I think about it while he is gone and say to myself and my girl should I tip or not , I ended up leaving him $5.00 ......What would you do?

You over tipped by $0.35 according the standard 15% rule and you didn't have a party of 8 so you weren't required to tip 20%, so you did the right thing, I usually tip between 10-20%, depending on how the waiter/waitress was but 10% is my lowest and 20% is my highest, although I did tip $5.00 one time on a $6.20 meal because the waitress was hot

who · 11-14-2003, 07:03 AM

People tip me, wherever I go, just for the privilage of being close to me.

titmowse · 11-14-2003, 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by DirkG

You are high. There are a few states that allow tipped employees to make less than minimum wage. Just a few.

http://www.dol.gov/esa/programs/whd/state/tipped.htm

Paul -C- · 11-14-2003, 07:29 AM

I used to work in a restaurant here in the UK and it's definately not an easy job. But we weren't allowed to accept tips and it didn't bother anyone. If a customer did leave a tip behind it went into a charity money box.

Forest · 11-14-2003, 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by titmowse

http://www.dol.gov/esa/programs/whd/state/tipped.htm

guess I wasnt so HIGH after all

good find titmowse

Thanx!

whats the minimum wage in the states now?

5.75?

Forest · 11-14-2003, 07:31 AM

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Originally posted by Paul -C-
I used to work in a restaurant here in the UK and it's definately not an easy job. But we weren't allowed to accept tips and it didn't bother anyone. If a customer did leave a tip behind it went into a charity money box.

thats because your wage is figured into the price of the food and drinks

IN the usa its NOT

shows how you NEED to check about tipping before you travel

Thanx Paul

titmowse · 11-14-2003, 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by Forest

guess I wasnt so HIGH after all

good find titmowse

Thanx!

whats the minimum wage in the states now?

5.75?

something like that.

people who don't tip go straight to hell.

Forest · 11-14-2003, 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by titmowse

something like that.

people who don't tip go straight to hell.

hahahahahaha

U had WAY to many nights as a waiter where i felt that way

But had many more nights of great customers

I workd my tables hard

Up sold them for wines and deserts

treated them like royalty

I was a 28% avg tiped waiter in almost every house i worked

titmowse · 11-14-2003, 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by Forest

hahahahahaha

U had WAY to many nights as a waiter where i felt that way

But had many more nights of great customers

I workd my tables hard

Up sold them for wines and deserts

treated them like royalty

I was a 28% avg tiped waiter in almost every house i worked

i rarely have a bad experience at a club or restaurant. i tip well but mostly i treat the server with courtesy and respect.

FATPad · 11-14-2003, 07:45 AM

Tipping bad waitresses just encourages them to be bad.

I tip huge for great waitresses. I have no problems leaving $1 (or even change in very rare cases) for ones that piss me off.

bopha · 11-14-2003, 07:55 AM

I see some of you have not waited tables. That's ok.

Yes, you must claim your percentage on your food sales before you walk out the door. You can't lie.

Yes, you make next to no hourly. (2.13 was my last hourly wage several years ago).

If you are serving food, at the end of the night, you have to tip out your bartender, your food runner, your bussers.

If you are cocktailing, you still have to tip out your bartender.

If you have a 10 top that walks without paying, it comes out of your money.

We tip very well for good service. Poor service is in excusable.

Asking if you need change is fucking inappropriate as tips are gratuities, not expected.

Stealing tips from customers is common. Most people don't check their credit card bills and compare.

I'm sick of coffee shop counter people who have a tip jar.

Went to a jack in the box in the dead of the night and they
had a tip jar out. Wouldn't hand me my food until I agreed to
contributed to their tip jar.

I comprehend the concept and appreciate it, but some of this is just out of hand.

Forest · 11-14-2003, 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by bopha
I see some of you have not waited tables. That's ok.

Yes, you must claim your percentage on your food sales before you walk out the door. You can't lie.

Yes, you make next to no hourly. (2.13 was my last hourly wage several years ago).

If you are serving food, at the end of the night, you have to tip out your bartender, your food runner, your bussers.

If you are cocktailing, you still have to tip out your bartender.

If you have a 10 top that walks without paying, it comes out of your money.

We tip very well for good service. Poor service is in excusable.

Asking if you need change is fucking inappropriate as tips are gratuities, not expected.

Stealing tips from customers is common. Most people don't check their credit card bills and compare.

I'm sick of coffee shop counter people who have a tip jar.

Went to a jack in the box in the dead of the night and they
had a tip jar out. Wouldn't hand me my food until I agreed to
contributed to their tip jar.

I comprehend the concept and appreciate it, but some of this is just out of hand.

EXCELLENT POINTS!

Tip Out

somehting the lay people know nothing about

you MUST tip out your bartender, Bus boys, Food Runners( if you have them) and in some rests. your expiditor in the kitchen

all these people work hard to make your dining experience enjoyable

REMEMBER this people !!!

Tip jars at coffe shops are cool. I leave a buck for a 4.00 breakfast

Jack in the box

NOW THATS just plain rediculous

sherie · 11-14-2003, 08:35 AM

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Insure
Prompt
Service

I have worked in several bars and resturants while growing up. And let me tell you, if you can't afford to spend at least 15% on tipping your server, stay the hell home!!

Sure if your service sucks, leave a little less. But in most cases that person is relying on that tip...people that have never experienced working in a bar/restaurant can not ever appreciate the shit that one must go through for that 15%

Forest · 11-14-2003, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by sherie
To
Insure
Prompt
Service

I have worked in several bars and resturants while growing up. And let me tell you, if you can't afford to spend at least 15% on tipping your server, stay the hell home!!

Sure if your service sucks, leave a little less. But in most cases that person is relying on that tip...people that have never experienced working in a bar/restaurant can not ever appreciate the shit that one must go through for that 15%

Great post sherie

2 thumbs up for good tippers for good service

wizz · 11-14-2003, 09:03 AM

Yes.... sure tip

Specially if they treat you well....

DirkG · 11-14-2003, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by Forest

guess I wasnt so HIGH after all

good find titmowse

Thanx!

whats the minimum wage in the states now?

5.75?

I apologize then for my comments. From what I have been able to determin it was only about 5 or so states that have a reduced minimum wage for tipped employees. I guess my research was incorrect. Someone Oregon pays $7 an hour must have written the arguments I was reading against a lower minimum wage last election.
Nice to see the Gov using popunders to make some extra money also.

TheEnforcer · 11-14-2003, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by Forest
Rule of thumb for tiping

The amount you tip is always relative to the amount of service you received

shit service shit tip

excellent service... BIG TIP

These guys and girls work thier asses off usually to make you meal a memorable one

dont stiff them on it

Bad Karma

Pretty much nails it there Forest!

fris · 11-14-2003, 09:47 AM

if the service is good you get a phat tip. or else i get up and complain to the max. and you get dick all. if your in a really nice place of course you are going to get a better tip. i am from canada. so we usally leave the tax which is 15% of the meal. so if you are going to out back usally its 120$ for 4 or 5 people.so the waitresses make good money on tips if you work there. in the states when i was visiting a friend they tipped 20% so it all depends.

12clicks · 11-14-2003, 09:47 AM

I tip 20% religiously.
At my favorite restaraunt it will sometimes goto 25%
I'm generally treated like a king anywhere I'm known.

Most of you arguing over a few percentage points on your hundred dollar meal are borish and cheap.
Those of you from outside the US wouldn't know good service if it bit you on the ass.
Yes, put the 5 extra bucks in your pocket, it means so much more to you than the people working to make you happy.

12clicks · 11-14-2003, 09:50 AM

also, its amazing what a couple % points extra will get you in comparison to what a couple fewer % points won't.
how do you want to live? happily or cheaply?

Forest · 11-14-2003, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
I tip 20% religiously.
At my favorite restaraunt it will sometimes goto 25%
I'm generally treated like a king anywhere I'm known.

Most of you arguing over a few percentage points on your hundred dollar meal are borish and cheap.
Those of you from outside the US wouldn't know good service if it bit you on the ass.
Yes, put the 5 extra bucks in your pocket, it means so much more to you than the people working to make you happy.

12clicks and I agree on somehting

serge and i had a great discussion about people in the business last time we ate together

your name came up and he told me the story of how you got your name

verry funny

We may have to crack a bottle one day and put aside our differences

Forest · 11-14-2003, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by TheEnforcer

Pretty much nails it there Forest!

Thanx TE

yeah im a service whore

I give it to MY customers more then most in this business i would like to think

and I expect and am willing to pay for it in return!

12clicks · 11-14-2003, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by Forest

12clicks and I agree on somehting

serge and i had a great discussion about people in the business last time we ate together

your name came up and he told me the story of how you got your name

verry funny

We may have to crack a bottle one day and put aside our differences

we have no differences that I'm aware of but most likely not many interests in common out side of wine either.

11-14-2003, 01:45 AM	#63
tootie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Planet Earp Posts: 6,041	I was a waitress years ago and I remember someone left one of the other waitresses a penny for a tip after their table of 10 people ran her ragged. She started to cry because she'd worked her ASS off for those people who kept insulting her and laughing at her, expecting to get a decent tip from such a large check because her rent was past due and she really needed the money. I went outside and said, "Excuse me, sir. You seem to have left some money on the table." and I handed him his penny. He turned BEET RED. I guess he thought they'd be long gone before she discovered the tip. I came back in and handed her a $10 bill out of my own tip apron and told her that they apologized and asked me to give it to her. I wish I could have done more but if I'd given her more she wouldn't have believed it really came from them. Waiting tables is a terrible job. I ending up dumping a desert in this rude bitch's lap and walking out because I got so tired of the bullshit. I remember, and I tip well. __________________

11-14-2003, 01:49 AM	#64
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Okay, since this is a hot topic: Why do we tip some restaurant workers and not others? McDonalds' people don't get tipped... but sit down restaurants do. Anybody have a coherent theory behind this social phenomenon? __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

11-14-2003, 06:19 AM	#73
abdab_1 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 425	you have to tip, its not even open for discussion. Working behind a bar they tell you in the interview if you provide good service you will earn good money and its true. I used to do what I could to make people have a top time if they didnt tip they waited in line when they came back. TIPS RULES __________________ <p><a href="http://support.nochex.com/adult/" target="_blank"> <img height="60" src="http://support.nochex.com/web/gfx/adult_anim_cards.gif"width="120 " border="0"></a></p> Convert All Your Traffic!

11-14-2003, 07:01 AM	#77
Tytan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 1,391	Last tip I gave was about $40, service was good & the food was ok. __________________ Adult Webmaster/Pharmacy/Mortgage/Casino/General opt-in email lists for sale - full data ---------REFERENCES AVAILABLE----------- ------------------------------------------------ Adult opt-in bases for sale icq@261453175

11-14-2003, 07:45 AM	#87
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	Tipping bad waitresses just encourages them to be bad. I tip huge for great waitresses. I have no problems leaving $1 (or even change in very rare cases) for ones that piss me off. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

11-14-2003, 01:33 AM	#52
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Forest, can you please send me some money through paypal. I work so hard everyday, sometimes up to 10 hours a day and i never know what my income will be at the end of the moment. Please pity me. 100 bucks should be ok for now. You can send another 100 tomorrow.

11-14-2003, 06:51 AM	#75
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	High tipping is for fakers.

11-14-2003, 06:52 AM	#76
KobyBoy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Purgatory Posts: 201	I live in New York so it's second nature for me to leave tips. Tip the waiter/waitress, the cab driver, the bellhop, the concierge, bartender, etc... As many know we have 8.25% sales tax here so the easiest way to tip is to just double the tax (my little tip for you folks out of town coming to the Big Apple). However there was this one time when I refused the tip. I was out with my girl having drinks and dinner at this restaraunt. My food came out cold so I sent it back to reheat it, the service was slow, had to ask to refill our water glasses, etc... all in all the service was not too good. When the bill came I left exactly 15%. Waiter comes to pick up the check and we are getting up ready to leave. On my way out the waiter comes after me telling that I didn't leave enough tip and this is his livelyhood. At first I thought I didn't hear correctly and ask him to repeat what he just said. Tells me again and hands me back the tab, I grab a pen and cross out the tip leaving him nothing. Hand it back to him and leave. Was feeling pretty bad about it but if you have the balls to come up to me asking for more tip after such a poor service you gave me, you are forcing me to be a jerk.

11-14-2003, 07:03 AM	#79
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	People tip me, wherever I go, just for the privilage of being close to me.

11-14-2003, 07:29 AM	#81
Paul -C- Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,255	I used to work in a restaurant here in the UK and it's definately not an easy job. But we weren't allowed to accept tips and it didn't bother anyone. If a customer did leave a tip behind it went into a charity money box.

11-14-2003, 07:55 AM	#88
bopha Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,882	I see some of you have not waited tables. That's ok. Yes, you must claim your percentage on your food sales before you walk out the door. You can't lie. Yes, you make next to no hourly. (2.13 was my last hourly wage several years ago). If you are serving food, at the end of the night, you have to tip out your bartender, your food runner, your bussers. If you are cocktailing, you still have to tip out your bartender. If you have a 10 top that walks without paying, it comes out of your money. We tip very well for good service. Poor service is in excusable. Asking if you need change is fucking inappropriate as tips are gratuities, not expected. Stealing tips from customers is common. Most people don't check their credit card bills and compare. I'm sick of coffee shop counter people who have a tip jar. Went to a jack in the box in the dead of the night and they had a tip jar out. Wouldn't hand me my food until I agreed to contributed to their tip jar. I comprehend the concept and appreciate it, but some of this is just out of hand.

11-14-2003, 08:35 AM	#90
sherie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,020	To Insure Prompt Service I have worked in several bars and resturants while growing up. And let me tell you, if you can't afford to spend at least 15% on tipping your server, stay the hell home!! Sure if your service sucks, leave a little less. But in most cases that person is relying on that tip...people that have never experienced working in a bar/restaurant can not ever appreciate the shit that one must go through for that 15% __________________ AIM sherierocks ICQ 127-296-286 Skype traffichor

11-14-2003, 09:03 AM	#92
wizz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 634	Yes.... sure tip Specially if they treat you well.... __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

11-14-2003, 09:47 AM	#95
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,359	if the service is good you get a phat tip. or else i get up and complain to the max. and you get dick all. if your in a really nice place of course you are going to get a better tip. i am from canada. so we usally leave the tax which is 15% of the meal. so if you are going to out back usally its 120$ for 4 or 5 people.so the waitresses make good money on tips if you work there. in the states when i was visiting a friend they tipped 20% so it all depends. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

11-14-2003, 09:47 AM	#96
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,788	I tip 20% religiously. At my favorite restaraunt it will sometimes goto 25% I'm generally treated like a king anywhere I'm known. Most of you arguing over a few percentage points on your hundred dollar meal are borish and cheap. Those of you from outside the US wouldn't know good service if it bit you on the ass. Yes, put the 5 extra bucks in your pocket, it means so much more to you than the people working to make you happy. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

11-14-2003, 09:50 AM	#97
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,788	also, its amazing what a couple % points extra will get you in comparison to what a couple fewer % points won't. how do you want to live? happily or cheaply? __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.