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MICHAEL MOORE: My first question is, I'd like to know from Mr. Bush what exactly is the business relationship over the last 25 years between the Bush and the bin Laden families.

I was really stunned the first time I read about this, that the person who handled the bin Ladens' money in Texas back in the late 1970's was also a person who was an investor in Bush's first little ventures that his dad set him up with. It was so astounding to see that potentially there was bin Laden money involved with the Bush family. This goes back to the 1970's.

Now jump all the way to the Carlisle group, where you have bin Laden investing in the Carlisle group -- this is George Sr. and the company that he's involved with, when George Sr. goes to Saudi Arabia, you know, the bin Ladens are all friends with each other, and it's like, what are the chances of that? Six billion people on the planet, you know, that the guy supposedly responsible for the worst terrorist act on our soil, also his family just happens to know quite well and have business relations with the first family of this country.

And why won't the press ask this question? Maybe it means nothing. Maybe it's just a coincidence that their paths seem to cross in these ways, and maybe it isn't. I mean, I'd like to know that. I think the American people have a right to know. I say in the book, if after Oklahoma City it had been revealed that Timothy McVeigh's family had been involved in business relationships with the Clintons for 25 years, what do you think the press would have done with that? What do you think the Republicans would have done with that? They would have gone nuts, you know? And yet when it's the Bush?s and bin Laden?s, nobody asks the questions.

Question number two to Bush, what is the relationship between your family and the Saudi royal family? Where are those 28 pages? Why don't we know? I'm talking about the congressional report of 9-11. What are you protecting here? I think we have a right to know what exactly is this Relationship.

I talk about the scene here in the book where two nights after 9-11, on September 13, he's got Prince Bandar, the ambassador to Saudi Arabia, out on the Truman balcony. They're sharing a cigar, looking out over Washington while things are still smoldering here in New York City.

You know, they have such a close relationship that the Saudi royal family refers to his dad as Bandar Bush. They've actually given him his own nickname within the royal family. This is how close they are.

A lot of this goes to a gut feeling on my part, and it's nothing more than this. But again, you know, you wish that investigative journalists or somebody in congress would start asking these questions.

Was this really a terrorist attack on September 11, or was it a military attack? Why is it always called a terrorist attack? Why isn't it called a military attack? It sure looked like a military attack to me. If you know anything about flying a plane, if you're going 586 miles an hour, you know, the World Trade Center, those buildings were like a block wide. I mean, if you're off by a centimeter, you know, that plane is in the East river.

To hit it that directly, to do it twice, these people knew what they were doing, and they did not learn how to do that at a flight training school on a video game. They did not learn how to do that there.

And I think some questions need to be asked about what involvement did the Saudi military possibly have in either training these people, or were these rogue elements within the Saudi royal family or Saudi military?

We already know there's a few divisions within the royal family about how the country should be run. It's total chaos over there. The king had a stroke and he's not really running the country now for a number of years.

You know, I'm just -- you know, I don't have all the answers here, but I'm asking these questions because I think somebody should answer them.

I go through, and there's more about why the bin Ladens were allowed to fly.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, go into that, because each of these things, and now you being immersed in the book and having done research for the last few years, you are now taking them for granted.

What is so astounding is most people in this country do not know this, don't know about when the grounding of the air traffic happened in this country right after September 11, what happened --

MICHAEL MOORE: And I think -- right, Amy. If you explain this to the average American out there, that after all the planes were grounded and none of us could fly, and my wife and I know this very specifically because we were stuck in L.A. We were supposed to fly that day back here and we had to get a car and drove 3,000 miles.

So nobody could fly -- I mean, nobody. All planes were grounded for two, three, actually up to four days. Right away, the Bush administration gave permission for private Saudi jets to be allowed to fly around America and pick up 24 members and associates of the bin Laden family in four or five cities and fly them to Boston, where they got together and then, after a few more days, were then flown out of the country to Paris without any kind of investigation by the F.B.I. or real interrogation.

Not only that, according to the New York Times last month, there's now up to 160 members of the royal family and other Saudi officials who were in the country at the time who also got free plane rides and picked up and taken out of the country when no one else could fly. So no one could fly in America on September 12 or 13 unless your name was bin Laden.

Just stop and think about that for just a few seconds. And I don't mean -- I'm not saying that just because your name is bin Laden you're automatically something -- that's not what I'm saying -- but common sense will tell anyone that, Amy, if your brother has just been accused of committing the worst mass murder in American history, would it be wrong for the police maybe to just come and ask you a few questions?

Not that you had anything to do with it, but just, if he calls, could you let us know?

AMY GOODMAN: Were these people questioned?

MICHAEL MOORE: Here's where they were questioned. They all got on the plane to Boston to get their free trip to Paris, they then allow a couple F.B.I. guys on to the plane to check passports.

Their questions were: what's your name, let me see your passport. They had just a few minutes, and they were out of there.

AMY GOODMAN: Vanity Fair quotes the head of Logan airport saying she was absolutely shocked when they were dealing with the crisis of the planes having come from Logan that hit the World Trade Center, they were now being told, while others weren't allowed to fly, they were to prepare to make sure that they could fly out.

MICHAEL MOORE: And those orders, we now know, came directly from the White House.

So here's Bush trying to deal with everything on September 11, 12, 13, you know, I mean, you remember the total state of chaos and people, just everyone, all of us, discombobulated by the whole thing.

And he had the time to be thinking, what can I do to help the bin Laden family right now?

You know, all these elaborate plans were made because they were spread out throughout the country, to be able to pick them up, get them to Boston, and then get them to Paris.

Of course, what they'll say, if you were to ask them, well, we did it for protection, worried about Americans. Americans may respond to a hostile way to anyone named bin Laden.

Well, first of all, I'm glad he has such a high opinion of us American citizens. That's not really how people are. And secondly, again, let me use the Clinton example. Imagine after the days or days after Oklahoma city, Clinton sitting around the White House going, I wonder how the McVeigh family is doing out in Buffalo right now. I hope they're OK. We don't want anything to happen -- why don't we give them a free trip to Paris. Call them up and let's arrange free planes to get the McVeighs to Paris.

That's exactly, exactly what happened with bush and the bin Ladens. And the F.B.I., and I'm making this film right now that will hopefully get this out sometime next year, and I just interviewed one of the F.B.I. agents, and they were appalled. They couldn't believe that procedures weren't followed. I said, what is the procedure in a case like this? He said the procedure would be that each of the bin Ladens would have been subpoenaed, they would have come and Testified. We would have subpoenaed their phone records, just done a check.

He says more than likely, you know, none of them were involved and everybody's OK. But what we would then do is say, look, when you go back to Saudi Arabia, or when you go back to wherever you're going, you know, can we just have a relationship, so that if you do find out anything or know anything, could you please tell us?

So while we're being told that the hunt is on for Osama bin Laden, what's really going on, when you've got 24 bin Ladens here, you know, none of them are asked for any kind of help, none of them are interrogated. They're given, literally, the red carpet treatment in the days after September 11. My question is why? What is really going on here?

Then as we saw as the months went by and we forgot about bin Laden, no longer, you know, bin Laden wasn't the main thing, and we know from the things that Wesley Clark has said in the days right after September 11, he got a call from people in the Bush administration, connected to the Bush administration, telling him, go on and connect this to Saddam Hussein.

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Ross

You believe this shit?

Platinum Lantern

It's not UNbelievable...

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The Truth Hurts

MrIzzz

oh my head hurts


don't u know by now that all people in power are corrupt fucks.....thats why there have been revolutions in every form of government since the begining of time. people in power always fuck with the little man.

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mastamindz

To much to read.

Notes please?

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Mr.Fiction

You read some propaganda against Moore written by a right wing idiot.

If you believe the right wingers that attack Moore, then you already hated him to begin with.

Read this:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

theking

Other than Moore touting a book...what is new?

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Nope its not, I asked if you believe it tho..

axelcat

wow

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theking

Moore is druming up sales for his book?

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You don't have to believe it... and you don't have to dismiss it right away.

All you have to do is consider it as a possibility.

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