SilverCash announcement - GoFuckYourself.com

mardigras · 11-12-2003, 02:54 PM

Got this in my e-mail:

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SILVERCASH WEBMASTERS:

Effective 11:59 p.m. on November 16, 2003 , Silvercash.com will no longer be accepting Cross Sales.
All Cross Sales to that point will be tracked and credited to your accounts as normal.

This will not effect any of our other affiliate programs. For more information, please contact [email protected] .

Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.

Silvercash Management

Maybe I'm confused with terms... Does this mean that in addition to the popups that generate sales only for their themselves I will no longer get gredit for any of their sites in the pop-ups either? Why should anyone promote that?

WiredGuy · 11-12-2003, 02:56 PM

I think this is intended to paysite owners who have cross-sales that go to Silvercash and they no longer want these types of members. Only direct joins, no more cross-sale joins.

WG

PSGuru · 11-12-2003, 03:03 PM

If I remember correctly, Silvercash and Cybererotica are the 2 companies that started cross sales.
Is Cybererotica doing away with them as well?

Alex From San Diego · 11-12-2003, 03:03 PM

Basically what it means, the cross sale joins they receive are not retaining as members and they are worth less than the $15.00 they pay out.

So instead of working on the members area to increase retention, they are just doing away with cross sales...

That is what I got out of it.....

polish_aristocrat · 11-12-2003, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Basically what it means, the cross sale joins they receive are not retaining as members and they are worth less than the $15.00 they pay out.

So instead of working on the members area to increase retention, they are just doing away with cross sales...

That is what I got out of it.....

I think it is rather connected with Visa's cb ratios...

WiredGuy · 11-12-2003, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
Basically what it means, the cross sale joins they receive are not retaining as members and they are worth less than the $15.00 they pay out.

So instead of working on the members area to increase retention, they are just doing away with cross sales...

That is what I got out of it.....

SC pays out $10/cross sale, not $15.00
And I imagine the reason is more likely connected with the upcoming Visa regulations. It's much easier changing the members area than keeping visa happy.

WG

mardigras · 11-12-2003, 03:16 PM

Let me rephrase my question.

Silvercash is one of those sponsors who spawn multiple consoles. The first has your ref code in it, the rest have their own ref codes to other programs most of us already belong which they get 100%. Does this mean that we will no longer get credit for the single pop-up that has our ref code on it? All pop-ups from this sponsor now go to themselves? That is my question. That is the type of sponsor I am removing from my pages.

XxXotic · 11-12-2003, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by mardigras
Let me rephrase my question.

Silvercash is one of those sponsors who spawn multiple consoles. The first has your ref code in it, the rest have their own ref codes to other programs most of us already belong which they get 100%. Does this mean that we will no longer get credit for the single pop-up that has our ref code on it? All pop-ups from this sponsor now go to themselves? That is my question. That is the type of sponsor I am removing from my pages.

cross sales don't come from consoles, they're pre-checked sales coming from other programs join pages

LA Mike · 11-12-2003, 03:44 PM

Mardigras.. Nothing in our program for regular webmasters is changing. This announcement was only intended for those paysite owners who send us cross sales through Paycom.

And Polish and WG are right. It has to do with Visa Regs.. The cross sales charge back much higher then regular joins and we need to make sure we are under the 1%

Mike

Snake Doctor · 11-12-2003, 04:55 PM

Mardigras...cross sales and consoles are two totally separate things. It doens't affect you.

What's funny about this is I remember a few months ago when Boss Hawg started a thread talking about what would happen to the industry if/when cross sales went away.
Every program owner and rep came in that thread and swore that cross sales had nothing to do with chargebacks, and a few actually said that CB's on cross sales were lower than on regular sales.

Boy isn't everyone singing a different tune now.

polish_aristocrat · 11-12-2003, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by Lenny2

What's funny about this is I remember a few months ago when Boss Hawg started a thread talking about what would happen to the industry if/when cross sales went away.
Every program owner and rep came in that thread and swore that cross sales had nothing to do with chargebacks, and a few actually said that CB's on cross sales were lower than on regular sales.

I remember that... I think also Kimmy Kim was saying that.

Madball · 11-12-2003, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by Lenny2
Every program owner and rep came in that thread and swore that cross sales had nothing to do with chargebacks, and a few actually said that CB's on cross sales were lower than on regular sales.

Also the Epoch guys happily chimed in back then w/ some propaganda on how the CB ratios on CS are only slightly higher than those on regular sales.

11-12-2003, 02:56 PM	#2
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,504	I think this is intended to paysite owners who have cross-sales that go to Silvercash and they no longer want these types of members. Only direct joins, no more cross-sale joins. WG __________________ I play with Google.

11-12-2003, 03:16 PM	#7
mardigras Bon temps! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: down yonder Posts: 14,194	Let me rephrase my question. Silvercash is one of those sponsors who spawn multiple consoles. The first has your ref code in it, the rest have their own ref codes to other programs most of us already belong which they get 100%. Does this mean that we will no longer get credit for the single pop-up that has our ref code on it? All pop-ups from this sponsor now go to themselves? That is my question. That is the type of sponsor I am removing from my pages. __________________ . Last edited by mardigras; 11-12-2003 at 03:20 PM..

11-12-2003, 04:55 PM	#10
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Mardigras...cross sales and consoles are two totally separate things. It doens't affect you. What's funny about this is I remember a few months ago when Boss Hawg started a thread talking about what would happen to the industry if/when cross sales went away. Every program owner and rep came in that thread and swore that cross sales had nothing to do with chargebacks, and a few actually said that CB's on cross sales were lower than on regular sales. Boy isn't everyone singing a different tune now. __________________ sig too big

11-12-2003, 03:03 PM	#3
PSGuru Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 552	If I remember correctly, Silvercash and Cybererotica are the 2 companies that started cross sales. Is Cybererotica doing away with them as well?

11-12-2003, 03:03 PM	#4
Alex From San Diego Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,642	Basically what it means, the cross sale joins they receive are not retaining as members and they are worth less than the $15.00 they pay out. So instead of working on the members area to increase retention, they are just doing away with cross sales... That is what I got out of it.....

11-12-2003, 03:44 PM	#9
LA Mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,056	Mardigras.. Nothing in our program for regular webmasters is changing. This announcement was only intended for those paysite owners who send us cross sales through Paycom. And Polish and WG are right. It has to do with Visa Regs.. The cross sales charge back much higher then regular joins and we need to make sure we are under the 1% Mike