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Old 11-12-2003, 02:12 AM   #1
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What does Visa have against the AVS model anyways?

$25 a month (or whatever the small price) for all that content sounds like a good deal to me.
Why don't they like it?
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Old 11-12-2003, 02:13 AM   #2
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because kids have CC's now

so haveing a cc doesnt make you "Of Age" to view porn
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Old 11-12-2003, 02:18 AM   #3
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because kids have CC's now

so haveing a cc doesnt make you "Of Age" to view porn
Then why not change it to a small fee for much porn program orso
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Old 11-12-2003, 02:19 AM   #4
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visa brought that on themselves, knowingly or unknowingly...

u can get prepaid teen visa cards, gift cards, debit cards...

my 12 year old cousin is constantly calling me and telling me about all the porn sites he joins. and yes, he knows all about cross sells, upsells & rebills... smart little fucker.
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Old 11-12-2003, 02:26 AM   #5
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Then why not change it to a small fee for much porn program orso
it has nothing to do with fee

as i remember (ive never done an avs) it was supposed to be Free Porn if you can Prove you are over 18 by supplying a CC

well my 13 year old cousin has a CC now


its not a age verifier
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Old 11-12-2003, 02:33 AM   #6
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because kids have CC's now

so haveing a cc doesnt make you "Of Age" to view porn
does that mean paysites are next on the hitlist?
they can charge a $750 fee to process for paysites, but not for avs sites?
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Old 11-12-2003, 02:35 AM   #7
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does that mean paysites are next on the hitlist?
they can charge a $750 fee to process for paysites, but not for avs sites?
That was another issue.

All the sites were hiding under the umbrella of the AVS which is now why they changed their text from..."1,000's of sites" to something like "1,000's of pages."
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Old 11-12-2003, 06:13 AM   #8
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its not a age verifier
so, why can ebay and yahoo use it as an age verifier?
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Old 11-12-2003, 06:23 AM   #9
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so, why can ebay and yahoo use it as an age verifier?
same reason microsoft can rebill me for 6 months on an old credit card for their msn service, and then send me to collections because i didn't pay the bill, i never used the service for 6 months, canceled my credit card because i do that every 4 - 6 months and to stop all rebills from online shit because i buy alot of shit, and the important stuff i will just give them the new credit card, and they continue'd stacking up the bill and now are trying to send me to collections for it. would be some shit if i had my adult sites if their credit card got declined for a rebill, continue'd charging them for 6 months and sent their ass off to collections

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Old 11-12-2003, 06:45 AM   #10
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Seems to me Visa & MC would do well to have an "age verification" option for their cards, so a merchant can verify a person is 18+ or 21+ or whatever. Yeah it would mean some change to their system, but it seems pretty simple. Presumably they know who has the cards...they don't sell prepaid cards anonymously do they?

I think overall they made the right business call, giving CC's to kids, as they spend a lot of money. But at the same time it's going to eat into some of their other revenue from companies who want age verification.
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Old 11-12-2003, 06:47 AM   #11
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I thought it was two reasons. They don't like their cards being used as age verification tools and AVS's bypass the sponsored merchant system.
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Old 11-12-2003, 07:13 AM   #12
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Start your own credit companies if you don't like it, but quit whining like little bitches.
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Old 11-12-2003, 07:20 AM   #13
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Start your own credit companies if you don't like it, but quit whining like little bitches.
lets start one togheter:
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Old 11-12-2003, 07:22 AM   #14
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lets start one togheter:
I wouldn't go into business with a retard like you unless you put up the capital and I got to make all the decisions.
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Old 11-12-2003, 07:38 AM   #15
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I wouldn't go into business with a retard like you unless you put up the capital and I got to make all the decisions.
he my sister said your a lousy fuck

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Old 11-12-2003, 07:58 AM   #16
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I think overall they made the right business call, giving CC's to kids, as they spend a lot of money. But at the same time it's going to eat into some of their other revenue from companies who want age verification.
they should have joe camel on the front of the cards..same differnce. It is all about trying to hook them young.

Atleast we try to keep kids away from our products.
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