50 AVS webmasters

"Your comments are still in bad taste to a lot of people that lost a lot of money at Adult Check. "

My comments cannot add anymore bad taste to an already sore mouth. I am simply stating the facts. Nothing more, nothing less. Yes during the very short time that MC had certain issues there were plenty of vulchers trying to get a piece of the pie. This is given. But I am not one of them. I did not say hey, ac webmasters come to my program... MC was strong before and is even stronger now.

All I said is avs is in trouble. You cannot deny that fact. Visa does not like the current way avs systems are settup and this is clear as day to anyone who is looking for it...

I hope you see my points.

am i the only one that missed something out?

AVS isn't dead. Only the name changed. Everyone that works under adultcheck will still be able to. The only thing that will change or need to be updated is the site script.

Hardly a big deal.

I use SexKey and they are great.

i for one couldnt care less.

no ... actually i HAD heard that. just yesterday. right after i made my first TGP gallery ...

and it appears the CC companies aren't agreeable to processing under the "AVS" term. so now some of the "formerly know as Adult Verification Systems" are having to change their rules around and call them "content pages" and all kinds of other crap. will it be dead after the beginning of the year ? who knows. from the way a lot of other people are talking --AVS isn't the only thing that should be looking for cemetary plots after the first of the year ...

We use ProAdult, one of the new AVS systems.

They are the best thing going.

Sincerely,
Allan,
www.UKSweet.com
www.DVBabes.com
www.Chebby.com
www.BritBird.com
www.ClownX.com
www.DVStars.com

Hahaha

New? What rock did you crawl out from under? They are a good company but they are not new.

What the hell are you talking about? Try getting a clue before posting. AC termed a shit load of accounts. There is no 'changing of site scripts' for most people. The accounts are closed.

it is totally fine with me if all of you don't do any AVS sites. Less competition for me. AC was not the only avs..CA for one might disagree.

Sarah,

If you are doing an AVS, I would go pay per signup in whatever way you can.

Im not saying that because Cyberage is an AVS, but to put your recurrings into anyone else's hands at this point is a very large risk.

If your master account, loses its ability to rebill, your rebills go to. So unless you know their books....

I wouldnt do recurring with anyone..

Chris

well cyberage have been good to me and I don't have any problems with them at the moment. However, that said there is no reason not to spread yourself around so that you aren't fully reliant on rebills.

true, thats why they're evolving into a new entity.

You still can. I like Headless, but c'mon... the guy thought your site was a TGP.

Maybe, then affiliates need to sell their traffic instead.
Like pay per click or so

Facts:

1. The current AVS model as we have known it has been dead for some time now ever since VISA and MC decided they wanted to peddle their credit cards to minors.

2. Adult Check is being pro-active by modifying their business model and staying in the good graces of VISA and MC for the long term.

3. These other AVS's that are pulling manuveurs like opening their affiliate's members areas in frames are a ticking timebomb waiting to get slapped by the big two.

4. Nothing, and I mean nothing, retains like an AVS member. And believe you me - I've owned, tried it all. It's hard to beat a program that updates will new content every single hour of the day across multiple categories.

I've used the exact same content in small paysite rings & on AVS & without a doubt, AVS retains like mad. I have members for over a year on sites I've never updated.

I didn't use AC but the AVS concept works best when you weed out all the crap & just allow quality sites with original content.

How many webmasters that were weeded out were slapping up sites with sponsor content or rock bottom stuff that's been seen a thousand times before? AC members will probably stay even longer now...

:2 cents:

agreed

sorry dude, but you really don't know what you are talking about sometimes

Wow you talk some crap. AC has management without a clue that has run a good and profitable company into the ground and now scewed 1000's of people. That is the 'Facts'. :1orglaugh

AC changed their business model: their right. But...

At close to zero notice, they also retained the recurring income of all the webmasters whom they did not require to be part of this new model. That need not concern anyone who was not directly involved, unless they plan to do business with AC in future.

But there is an extremely dangerous precedent involved that should concern everyone, whether directly involved or not. Namely that 100+ webmasters collaborated with what has happened and helped to make it possible. Without them, AC might have cut and run as other sponsors have, but AC certainly couldn't have carried on with 'business as usual'.

If those webmasters are able to do that with impunity, this could be the start of a trend which absolutely no-one should want to see, whether they were involved with AC or not.