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				What can you do on your PC that you cant on Apple?
			 
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 Mozilla Thunderbird (for apple) will import all of my old mail. Or, I guess Apple has their own mail app in OSX that is supposed to be decent? I dunno. But I don't use Outlook -- Outlook is waaay too scary security wise.  | 
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 And well... I don't game nearly as much now. It's all about business & being productive these days  | 
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		 The only thing that I can't do on my Mac that I can do on my PC is run that various webmaster utilities, ie. my autosubmitters. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 you cant watch my webcam!!! macs dont support windows media 9 yet 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Being a gamer, it'd KILL me not being able to play all of the new PC games that come out. Sure, they do port some over, but it's usually months after a game comes out. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I've got both and I can say that besides games there not much you can't run on a mac that you can on a pc and vice versa.  My main platform of choice is Linux but I have a Windoze box handy all the time and all of my laptops are Mac.  I can get anything done on all three of them any time.  There is no such scenario when I say "Oh, I have to use this machine because I can only do this specific task on it" (besides gaming that is which I don't do much of).  For example, I use Mozilla for web browsing and its supported on all three platform.  I can sync my bookmarks between machines no problem.  I would say go with whatever you feel comfortable on.  These days you can do pretty much everything on any platform.  The only thing you should look into is ease of use.  You can burn and edit DVDs on a Mac real easy.  You can do the same on a Windows box but just not as easily as on the mac (at least I think not because I've never tried doing it on a Windows box).  On the other hand I prefer the Windows Style explorer to Mac's Finder.  Again, it's just a matter of your own personal peference. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I have a question. If I was to download a program that is compatible with both windows and mac. Will a crack, from astalavista.box.sk, work on both windows and mac? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 i've actually been looking for a suitable outlook replacement for xwindows.  not really had much luck lately.  i've got a few years' worth of email, and a lot of business-related email i reference fairly often, so i want something that can work fairly seamlessly with a .pst. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 heh... i was talking about xwindows (X11), but it's good to know outlook is available on a mac, if i ever need it. 
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		 PCs are much, much better at crashing and getting virus, so id stick with a PC . Bill Gates rules, not. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 MS desktops are most of the market!  The reason to use a PC in this biz is cause that's what your surfers are using!  Web pages look different depending on OS platform etc.   Things are different on AOL too - the browser used  changes the way a site looks. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	So to be smart, check on multiple platforms, but I'd stick to a PC for a desktop workstation. A MAC has differnet font sets (ya can have more characters on a MAC for example). If you're doing graphics design for print, of course the MAC is the platform of choice. That's the industry standard there. I think MAC is ahead of the PC on color management esp in the apps like photoshop, Illustrator etc. Having used MAC, PC and Linux - I can tell ya there are advantages to all three.  | 
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 you're probably not using the equipment properly 
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 you're probably not using the equipment properly as far as evolution goes... that's ximian, right? i've taken a look at that, and it seems fairly cool. does it have an export feature, like the .pst file, to backup all the mail and folders relatively easily? that's the *nix program i've been most interested in. most of my experience with other mail programs is they don't import pst's very well. i haven't tried mozilla in a long time tho, i'll have to check that out. 
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		 It's good to see that in 2003 there are still tons of misconceptions that are just flat out wrong about macs. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			I know where adult webmasters can find the answer if they are looking for it, just look around. Right click your mouse and open a new window and go there even. 
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			 GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! 
			
		
			
				
			
			
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		 You cant run Mark Of The Unicorn's <i> Digital Performer</i>, not that most of you would want to.But you did ask. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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