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Old 11-09-2003, 01:30 PM   #1
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Here's an Idea: Promote your OWN program in your sig.

Why the hell would anyone want to promote someone else's program? Create your own. Invest that time into becoming independent. Why work for someone else?

I started shooting content 6 years ago so I wouldn't have to call someone else "boss". Running someone else's banner in your sig (unless you auctioned your sig space for charity like Sleazy) is a lot like working for a "boss" IMHO.
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Old 11-09-2003, 01:34 PM   #2
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it would kill the webmaster referral system.....and what about people who are designers or sell software?

And a lot of people just aren't creative enough to have their own shit....so they might as well use their sigs for something useful...
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this is what people are gettin pissed about, classic example
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if everyone ran their own program we woudlnt have affiliates
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Why the hell would anyone want to promote someone else's program? Create your own. Invest that time into becoming independent. Why work for someone else?

I started shooting content 6 years ago so I wouldn't have to call someone else "boss". Running someone else's banner in your sig (unless you auctioned your sig space for charity like Sleazy) is a lot like working for a "boss" IMHO.
why not?I think this is called freedom of choise (not sure about how to say in english )
promote anything as far as its legal and ok with GFY owner rules
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And a lot of people just aren't creative enough to have their own shit....so they might as well use their sigs for something useful...
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Stop yer whimpering ,I was making a joke about his comment
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it would kill the webmaster referral system.....and what about people who are designers or sell software?
What are you talking about?

If you have a service to offer its as good as any.
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What are you talking about?

If you have a service to offer its as good as any.
Ummmm.....I know this man.....That's why promoting your own "program" in sigs wouldn't work...especially for designers and software sellers....

Is offering a service the same as having a "program"? No.....Which is why everybody should be able to use sigs no matter what they do.

I thought I made this clear in my first post
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I said the same shit couple months ago.

Nothing is sacred it seems. People should rep themselves. For how are others to take seriously what a post whore has to say about anything or perhaps mis construeing what a response within a discussion is representing.

Sponsors are sponsors and not all sponsors are loved by everyone, infact... Whats to say a webmaster that see's another webmaster reping for a sponsor in a sig space would not have impact and thus take offense.

Effectively some portion of the readership will choose not to conduct business with the sig whore on the above basis.

Sig whores hurt themselves. Always will... Seems the shit aint gonna go away as individual representation and integrity is slipping.
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Ummmm.....I know this man.....That's why promoting your own "program" in sigs wouldn't work...especially for designers and software sellers....

Is offering a service the same as having a "program"? No.....Which is why everybody should be able to use sigs no matter what they do.

I thought I made this clear in my first post
No you didnt, you made it sound as if someone was a designer they couldnt have a sig. So its not called 'a program' all Donovan meant was fly something that is your own, whether it be a program or your service.

ive made more with my sig than someone could offer to buy it.

Those that have knew to bid high.

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Ummmm.....I know this man.....That's why promoting your own "program" in sigs wouldn't work...especially for designers and software sellers....

Is offering a service the same as having a "program"? No.....Which is why everybody should be able to use sigs no matter what they do.

I thought I made this clear in my first post
I don't have a program and I do quite well with my sig. You don't need a "program" to use your sig as an effective marketing tool. If the TCG whore crew would use their sig to market themselves, they could make a lot more money.

Don't market a program. Market yourself and create a name for yourself. That's where the money is.
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No you didnt, you made it sound as if someone was a designer they couldnt have a sig. So its not called 'a program' all Donovan meant was fly something that is your own, whether it be a program or your service.

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How in the world could you have read from my quote that designers couldn't have sigs in here?

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it would kill the webmaster referral system.....and what about people who are designers or sell software?

And a lot of people just aren't creative enough to have their own shit....so they might as well use their sigs for something useful...
Then when Donovan specifically says "PROGRAM", you turn around and say that he "didn't" really mean program but he meant flying something that was your own?

Creative reading at it's finest...
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Why the hell would anyone want to promote someone else's program? Create your own. Invest that time into becoming independent. Why work for someone else?

I started shooting content 6 years ago so I wouldn't have to call someone else "boss". Running someone else's banner in your sig (unless you auctioned your sig space for charity like Sleazy) is a lot like working for a "boss" IMHO.
Convenience. I have no desire to own my own site. I make plenty being an affiliate and happily wave their banner in my sig. I don't work for someone else, I work for myself and get paid for it.
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You said, 'what about the designers or programmers?'

As in, they dont own programs so what would they fly?

Maybe i misread it.

doesnt really matter.
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Then when Donovan specifically says "PROGRAM", you turn around and say that he "didn't" really mean program but he meant flying something that was your own?

Creative reading at it's finest...
I completely agree with you BVF....
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hahaha

necoeds is just mad becaue i call him on his past. and his naive business tactics.

fuck off necoeds, go steal some content.
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Ok BVF you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

YOU PUT A WHITE MAN IN HIS PLACE TODAY.

now go brag about coaching them until they reach 18.
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Then when Donovan specifically says "PROGRAM", you turn around and say that he "didn't" really mean program but he meant flying something that was your own?

Creative reading at it's finest...
It isn't creative reading. It's proper reading comprehension. Donny is basically saying, "push your own products and services in your sig and reap the profits instead of picking up beer money by selling your sig." Shoot for the long term profits instead of the short term.

Donny, Fletch, and myself are on the same page here I believe.
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And why dont you work in your program instead of wasting time starting more threads bashing sig whores? It's getting old, and nobody gives a fuck.
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Some guys only own TGP and there isn't really a lot of surfer value from a webmaster board to a TGP, unless you promo trades for your own site.
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hey, shut the fuck up fletch...

I don't have shit against you man... Bottom line is that you did twist what was said... OR you just misunderstood the original post from donovan.....

Bottom line is that if people have a problem with sigs... FUCKING DISABLE THEM..... the option is right in your fucking profile...

Actually i totally take your side fletch... (as far as your posts so far)... but don't be twisting what's said
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Ok BVF you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

YOU PUT A WHITE MAN IN HIS PLACE TODAY.

now go brag about coaching them until they reach 18.
Gotdamn fletch leave it alone.....You just said that it doesn't really matter and it doesn't...then you turn around and give me ANOTHER reply with some shit about coaching hoes until they are 18.....It ain't that serious.........Besides, I put white folks in their place EVERY day....Your beef is with necoeds...don't take your shit for him out on me...I'm on your side and you're giving ME shit?

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It isn't creative reading. It's proper reading comprehension. Donny is basically saying, "push your own products and services in your sig and reap the profits instead of picking up beer money by selling your sig." Shoot for the long term profits instead of the short term.

Donny, Fletch, and myself are on the same page here I believe.
And where do you see in Donovan's post the words "products and services"? Yes, that's what he "probably" meant but don't go putting words onto donovan's keyboard...

My post was to say why people SHOULDN'T be allowed to push "only" their own programs because some people don't HAVE programs, (ie designers and software sellers)...

Jesus......Are people that fucking anal?
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hey, shut the fuck up fletch...

I don't have shit against you man... Bottom line is that you did twist what was said... OR you just misunderstood the original post from donovan.....

Bottom line is that if people have a problem with sigs... FUCKING DISABLE THEM..... the option is right in your fucking profile...

Actually i totally take your side fletch... (as far as your posts so far)... but don't be twisting what's said
One day you tops will realize how I MAKE YOU SPIN.

Bottom line is what I said was true.

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I'm on the same page too with Sly_RJ... Fletch... Donnovan...

As far as in a "in my opinion sense"

But nothing really matters... gfy sigs are only subject to gfy rules set regarding them.... if you don't like other's sigs... disable them...

Besides... some of the biggest morons... and pissants on here are NOT sig whores
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a little higher please.
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Cause its easier just to pickup a $10 Mil check from Nike.

Agreed in alot of ways....
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a little higher please.
So you get a chubby off thinking somebody is jumping through a hoop for you on a message board?.....

It's my hoop and my circus...thanks for the performance...
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So you get a chubby off thinking somebody is jumping through a hoop for you on a message board?.....

It's my hoop and my circus...thanks for the performance...
YES I DO.

ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS YOU.

You dont like me, and I like it when I MAKE YOU REPLY TO ME.
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YES I DO.

ESPECIALLY WHEN ITS YOU.

You dont like me, and I like it when I MAKE YOU REPLY TO ME.
Where did you get the impression that I don't like you? And why would a person that supposedly doesn't like you make you feel good if they talk to you? If I thought that you didn't like me (which I didn't until now) I wouldn't want to have anything to do with you....

That's like being in grade school and slapping the girl you like in the back of their head so they'll pay attention to you....You're better than that and you don't need attention from somebody like me anyway and the same with me and you...

Wow...the repressed feelings of boys in this board amazes me...You didn't go to Columbine did you?
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Old 11-09-2003, 02:23 PM   #39
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necoeds: why did you delete your post?

because it was stupid... and i'm not a grogan


*Grogan being used as an adjective; (ie: moron, petty, bitch)


PS- I've never had a problem wiht you man... but you keep trying to stir shit up with me... I'll buy you a drink in vegas... i'm not some little bitch... or some little kid... I used to have ALOT more respect for you though.... especially around the time you hit 20,000 posts

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Old 11-09-2003, 02:24 PM   #40
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As I said: just keep spinning.

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Old 11-09-2003, 02:26 PM   #41
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As I said: just keep spinning.

See my sig and sign up under Donnie.
I talk to Donnie all the time on icq.... already a affiliate....

Plus... i can't see sigs... i've had them disabled...
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Old 11-09-2003, 02:27 PM   #42
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because it was stupid... and i'm not a grogan


*Grogan being used as an adjective; (ie: moron, petty, bitch)


PS- I've never had a problem wiht you man... but you keep trying to stir shit up with me... I'll buy you a drink in vegas... i'm not some little bitch... or some little kid... I used to have ALOT more respect for you though.... especially around the time you hit 20,000 posts
Baaaah, okay.

So okay man, we like each other, and you can buy me drinks in Vegas.

Just dont try and get me drunk and take pictures of me!

I aint signing no release form biatch!
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Old 11-09-2003, 02:28 PM   #43
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Wow...the repressed feelings of boys in this board amazes me...You didn't go to Columbine did you?
See, you take my little board fun and always want to go and do the 'white boy' jokes. Do you not recall going off on me calling me wigger and all that? Naaah of course you dont.

Its okay, i forgive you.

Im only here to keep it spinning.

If you really let these silly pics I post fuck with you that much, somehow I doubt I AM THE ONE with probs.

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Old 11-09-2003, 02:29 PM   #44
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i think i just put 2 and 2 together fletch ;)
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Baaaah, okay.

So okay man, we like each other, and you can buy me drinks in Vegas.

Just dont try and get me drunk and take pictures of me!

I aint signing no release form biatch!
Won't try to get you drunk... lol... i'll give ya pleanty of crystal though... bringing melissa down with me... i'll have a few other hotties with me as well
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Old 11-09-2003, 02:30 PM   #46
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i think i just put 2 and 2 together fletch ;)


(i wish I got a quarter for each smilie ive posted)

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Old 11-09-2003, 02:33 PM   #47
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BVF: i really dont have anything against you man.

always thought you didnt like me because of that night you were fucking with me, and since then.

But ill take your word for it.

Will you be in Vegas?
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Old 11-09-2003, 02:34 PM   #48
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Won't try to get you drunk... lol... i'll give ya pleanty of crystal though... bringing melissa down with me... i'll have a few other hotties with me as well
I would give my left nut to have her suck my right.
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Old 11-09-2003, 02:36 PM   #49
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Ill be there with my hottie, so I wont need a companion, but glad youll have a piece in your each arm.

Aint nothing but a gangster party.

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Old 11-09-2003, 02:38 PM   #50
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it would kill the webmaster referral system.....and what about people who are designers or sell software?

And a lot of people just aren't creative enough to have their own shit....so they might as well use their sigs for something useful...
If I had a little more self programing skills/graffic designer skills then I would be kewl to have my own program. So I agree when you say "a lot of people just aren't creative enough to have their own shit....so they might as well use their sigs for something useful"

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