ANOTHER patent on internet audio/visual?! - GoFuckYourself.com

vicki · 11-09-2003, 10:34 AM

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/33782.html

someone please enlighten me on how TWO companies can hold the same type of patent .. what am I missing here?!

just look at what companies run the internet backbones, so yeah I can see how telephone lines could be considered the basis for internet connections

smsvid · 11-09-2003, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by vicki
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/33782.html

someone please enlighten me on how TWO companies can hold the same type of patent .. what am I missing here?!

just look at what companies run the internet backbones, so yeah I can see how telephone lines could be considered the basis for internet connections

Different companies can have the same patent in different countries.

vicki · 11-09-2003, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by smsvid

Different companies can have the same patent in different countries.

"""Pennsylvania and Pittsburgh district court"""

this is US and Acac*a is US

tony286 · 11-09-2003, 10:51 AM

Thats in the good old USA, the government has to clean up this patent crap.

HeadPimp · 11-09-2003, 10:57 AM

Greaaaat... Just more cluster to add to the fuck.

Reak · 11-09-2003, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by tony404
Thats in the good old USA, the government has to clean up this patent crap.

agreed

directfiesta · 11-09-2003, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by tony404
Thats in the good old USA, the government has to clean up this patent crap.

OPERATION PATENT FREEDOM ????

Snowone · 11-09-2003, 11:15 AM

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Thanks to one man - Bruce Lehman - the US decided in the early 1990s (without Congressional review) to make business methods and software patentable.

Hmmm. Obviously Congress needs to fix this oversight.

FightThisPatent · 11-09-2003, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by vicki
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/33782.html

someone please enlighten me on how TWO companies can hold the same type of patent .. what am I missing here?!

just look at what companies run the internet backbones, so yeah I can see how telephone lines could be considered the basis for internet connections

SightSound is basically the paid download of audio/video..that's what they patent essentially claims.

http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/SightSound.html

USA Video is more interesting because they claim downloading of video is what their patent covers as evident by their lawsuit against MovieLink.com

http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/USVO.html

Fight the Video!

FightThisPatent · 11-09-2003, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

OPERATION PATENT FREEDOM ????

I am proposing Operation: Fight the Patent Foundation
http://www.FightThePatent.com/go

vicki · 11-09-2003, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent

SightSound is basically the paid download of audio/video..that's what they patent essentially claims.

http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/SightSound.html

USA Video is more interesting because they claim downloading of video is what their patent covers as evident by their lawsuit against MovieLink.com

http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/USVO.html

Fight the Video!

this is what I'm saying, shouldn't this help in the court battle against Acacia? Showing the judge there are OTHER patents covering the same process would help to prove there is some invalidity here .... i dunno but it sure seems like a case of double whammy to me

vicki · 11-09-2003, 12:02 PM

hehehe just had a thought *eg*

wonder what would happen to the day trading of acacia stock if someone posted in their yahoo thread that another company(ies) had patents over the same thing

*whistling innocently in the air*

FightThisPatent · 11-09-2003, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by vicki
wonder what would happen to the day trading of acacia stock if someone posted in their yahoo thread that another company(ies) had patents over the same thing

SightSound and Acacia don't have the same patents...

One way to look at Acacia's (bogus) claims is that their DMT patent supercedes SightSound.

SightSound claims that the have the patent over the PAID downloading of Audio/Video files, while Acacia claims their patent is over the downloading of Audio/Video files.

This is why the Acacia case (and USA Video) is of great concern because they are so broadly interpreted....so any company that licenses SightSound would automatically have to license Acacia and USA Video?? Sounds absurd...

Acacia wouldn't be prior art to SightSound since they were both around the same timeframes.

Fight the Absurdity!

Gemini · 11-09-2003, 01:51 PM

Thats been posted more than once over there Vicki and the investors just chuckle it off. Just like they do everything else. All they see are visions of sugarplumdollars dancing in their heads., lol

Its so ridiculous that they think its fine that ac*cia didn't even follow normal legal procedures to notify webmasters of their so called infringements.

Alky · 11-09-2003, 01:55 PM

FightThisPatent, what are you actively doing to fight these patents besides posting on boards and asking for donations?

boobmaster · 11-09-2003, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent

SightSound claims that the have the patent over the PAID downloading of Audio/Video files, while Acacia claims their patent is over the downloading of Audio/Video files.

This is why the Acacia case (and USA Video) is of great concern because they are so broadly interpreted....so any company that licenses SightSound would automatically have to license Acacia and USA Video?? Sounds absurd...

This is SO fucking insane!!! If I have video on my sites, I have to pay Acacia. If I happen to charge people to download videos on my sites, I have to pay Acacia AND SightSound (and USA Video and .....). This is maddness!!

Jigsaw · 11-09-2003, 02:41 PM

FightThisPatent · 11-09-2003, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster

This is SO fucking insane!!! If I have video on my sites, I have to pay Acacia. If I happen to charge people to download videos on my sites, I have to pay Acacia AND SightSound (and USA Video and .....). This is maddness!!

SightSound and USA Video are currently taking the "high road" by going after large pockets....... USA Video in particular is a publicly traded stock (http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=USVO.OB) would would definitely benefit in a stock price greater than $0.18/share right now...and maybe might decide to go after "low hanging fruit" as Acacia/Berman has said.

If you have a shopping cart, then you need to worry about PanIP.com If you use exit consoles, etc, etc, etc.... Patent litigation has been going on for many, many years.. it's just becoming more noticeable as part of a business plan. A new breed of "businesses" is to acquire patents and to strictly license them, without making any product or using the patent to protect what was tangibly created.

The sky's not falling, but there is already one big chunk called Acacia that has landed in the Adult Industry puddle.

Fight the Raindrops!

vicki · 11-09-2003, 03:59 PM

hey don't forget the patent on hyperlinking! lol

thank god that lawsuit turned out the way it did or we'd all be logging onto our homepages with nowhere else to go unless the homepage owner had paid license fees
*shaking head*
how friggin absurd, but the fact of the matter is .... its knocking at our door and we can NOT ignore it

11-09-2003, 10:34 AM	#1
vicki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep in the heart o' Texas Posts: 1,478	ANOTHER patent on internet audio/visual?! http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/33782.html someone please enlighten me on how TWO companies can hold the same type of patent .. what am I missing here?! just look at what companies run the internet backbones, so yeah I can see how telephone lines could be considered the basis for internet connections __________________ If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment. HR merchant accounts from 3.45% solid biz since 98 victoriakozub AT gmail.com skype: victoria.kozub \| ICQ: 74296746

11-09-2003, 12:02 PM	#12
vicki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep in the heart o' Texas Posts: 1,478	hehehe just had a thought eg wonder what would happen to the day trading of acacia stock if someone posted in their yahoo thread that another company(ies) had patents over the same thing whistling innocently in the air __________________ If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment. HR merchant accounts from 3.45% solid biz since 98 victoriakozub AT gmail.com skype: victoria.kozub \| ICQ: 74296746

11-09-2003, 01:51 PM	#14
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Thats been posted more than once over there Vicki and the investors just chuckle it off. Just like they do everything else. All they see are visions of sugarplumdollars dancing in their heads., lol Its so ridiculous that they think its fine that ac*cia didn't even follow normal legal procedures to notify webmasters of their so called infringements. __________________ <center><a target="_blank" href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac"><img border="0" src="http://216.130.172.224/gfy/gsig.gif" width="490" height="100"></a><br><a href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac" target="_blank"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#FF99FF"> Buy me away from Slavedriver Smokey!<br>It's May Sig Sweeps!<font></b></center>

11-09-2003, 03:59 PM	#19
vicki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep in the heart o' Texas Posts: 1,478	hey don't forget the patent on hyperlinking! lol thank god that lawsuit turned out the way it did or we'd all be logging onto our homepages with nowhere else to go unless the homepage owner had paid license fees shaking head how friggin absurd, but the fact of the matter is .... its knocking at our door and we can NOT ignore it __________________ If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment. HR merchant accounts from 3.45% solid biz since 98 victoriakozub AT gmail.com skype: victoria.kozub \| ICQ: 74296746 Last edited by vicki; 11-09-2003 at 04:02 PM..

11-09-2003, 10:51 AM	#4
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Thats in the good old USA, the government has to clean up this patent crap.

11-09-2003, 10:57 AM	#5
HeadPimp Bad Mo-Fo Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,772	Greaaaat... Just more cluster to add to the fuck.

11-09-2003, 01:55 PM	#15
Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	FightThisPatent, what are you actively doing to fight these patents besides posting on boards and asking for donations?

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